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Offline RM250 Evan

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Re: Riddle me this....
« Reply #30 on: October 29, 2010, 12:18:29 AM »
The reason why people complain that the YZ's r not updated/ old technology is because Yamaha has New updates from their 4 strokes that they could put on the YZ's without modifying but chose not too.

Examples:
-Revalved/ lighten suspension
-Improved levers/ perch
-New Triple clamps
-Lighten axles and hubs
-New hydro-form swing arm
-New linkage
-Bigger Foot pegs

That's just a few I could think of, I'm sure there is more that could be easily machined to work. Darn Yamaha!


Off topic:
Was just thinking....If I was a billionaire like Gates ;). I would give a couple million to Suzuki to have them produce a all new Rm250 and Rm150. hehehe

But I would have some requirements:
-Steel frame
-hydralic clutch
-brembo brakes w/oversize wave rotors
-Carburetor (works great, why change it to something more complicated?)
-New plastics
-Completely new motor
-4T style shrouds
-Yamaha style hydro swing arm
-Billet triple clamps
-1 1/8 bars
-$6500 max MSRP =)

awww a man can only dream.....

« Last Edit: October 29, 2010, 12:33:22 AM by YZ125 Evan »
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Re: Riddle me this....
« Reply #31 on: October 29, 2010, 05:13:12 AM »
I stopped by my local KTM / Yamaha / Suzuki / Kawi dealer last night to drool over a new 2011 KTM XC 300.  (No money, no new bike).  I was talking to the salesman, and he mentioned he heard Kawi and Suzuki were thinking about importing 2 stroke's again.  This is the 1st I heard of this, and it may be a bunch of bunk...  but it makes perfect business sense.  

I know Suzuki has really limited the number of bikes its imported into the states.  They like all other MFG's have a lot of unsold inventory.  Both Suzuki and Kawi still produce smokers, so why not capitalize on a segment of the market that is still strong and growing.  As the salesman mentioned, he was surprised the 300 was still there...  "We sell the two strokes as fast as we can get them in."  He also noted , that they have no used smokers for sale, just thumpers...  hmmmm

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Re: Riddle me this....
« Reply #32 on: October 29, 2010, 07:23:14 AM »
I have an antique International truck with a hydraulic clutch - self bleeding and self adjusting. I would NEVER go back to an archaic cable clutch.

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« Reply #33 on: October 29, 2010, 07:31:33 AM »
I stopped by my local KTM / Yamaha / Suzuki / Kawi dealer last night to drool over a new 2011 KTM XC 300.  (No money, no new bike).  I was talking to the salesman, and he mentioned he heard Kawi and Suzuki were thinking about importing 2 stroke's again.  This is the 1st I heard of this, and it may be a bunch of bunk...  but it makes perfect business sense.  

I know Suzuki has really limited the number of bikes its imported into the states.  They like all other MFG's have a lot of unsold inventory.  Both Suzuki and Kawi still produce smokers, so why not capitalize on a segment of the market that is still strong and growing.  As the salesman mentioned, he was surprised the 300 was still there...  "We sell the two strokes as fast as we can get them in."  He also noted , that they have no used smokers for sale, just thumpers...  hmmmm

The little things in life that make you go hmmmm


MANNN..if they would actually start importing..that would be awesome. Nothing better looking in my opinion than a brand new kawasaki :) The only downside to them is their frames seem to wear easily..but yeah if suzuki and kawi start importing 2 strokes that would be sweet!

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Re: Riddle me this....
« Reply #34 on: October 29, 2010, 01:44:41 PM »
I think i can help with your problem ford.
Paint your YZ a slightly different shade of blue & i can send you a set of TM graphics.
Easy fix  ;D ;)

Well,that's certainly one way of making a better TM.Still,it sort of seems like cheating :P
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Re: Riddle me this....
« Reply #35 on: October 29, 2010, 01:51:35 PM »
I think i can help with your problem ford.
Paint your YZ a slightly different shade of blue & i can send you a set of TM graphics.
Easy fix  ;D ;)

Well,that's certainly one way of making a better TM.Still,it sort of seems like cheating :P

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Re: Riddle me this....
« Reply #36 on: October 29, 2010, 01:55:19 PM »
It seems that most equate a modern day machine with updated plastic.Personally,I'd love to seem them look like the last generation of YZF but it's not a deal breaker for me.As for lightening them up like the 4t's,lighter is better but not at the expense of durability and,engines aside,that's sort of how things are going.I wasn't that impressed when my second KTM had gone to lighter hubs,spacers,aluminum spoke nipples etc.It was a marginal weight loss but I'd have sooner stuck with the old style.
As for power,the fact of the matter is,most can't ride any 2t 250 anywhere near it's capability-unless your name is RC.
Back in 03 a riding buddy bought a new KTM 250.It was a nice bike and was,and still is to my knowledge the hp,torque king of 250's.To me,it was unrideable.Way too much,way too fast.Fun,but not effective.In subsequent years they made it much more manageable.
The later CR250's were generally proclaimed as dogs but for most were a great bike.Not much for bragging rights but they had good power and put it to the ground well.Super woods bike-and track bike as well for the average guy.
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Re: Riddle me this....
« Reply #37 on: October 29, 2010, 02:17:40 PM »
I think i can help with your problem ford.
Paint your YZ a slightly different shade of blue & i can send you a set of TM graphics.
Easy fix  ;D ;)

Well,that's certainly one way of making a better TM.Still,it sort of seems like cheating :P

 :-X :-X :-X :-X

Oh,don't be sad TMKIWI,if it would make you feel better I'll send you some YZ graphics :D
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Re: Riddle me this....
« Reply #38 on: October 29, 2010, 03:08:29 PM »
I think i can help with your problem ford.
Paint your YZ a slightly different shade of blue & i can send you a set of TM graphics.
Easy fix  ;D ;)

Well,that's certainly one way of making a better TM.Still,it sort of seems like cheating :P

 :-X :-X :-X :-X

Oh,don't be sad TMKIWI,if it would make you feel better I'll send you some YZ graphics :D

Only if it a set of 05 retro graphics. ;D
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Re: Riddle me this....
« Reply #39 on: October 29, 2010, 05:22:52 PM »
The reason why people complain that the YZ's r not updated/ old technology is because Yamaha has New updates from their 4 strokes that they could put on the YZ's without modifying but chose not too.

Examples:
-Revalved/ lighten suspension
-Improved levers/ perch
-New Triple clamps
-Lighten axles and hubs
-New hydro-form swing arm
-New linkage
-Bigger Foot pegs

That's just a few I could think of, I'm sure there is more that could be easily machined to work. Darn Yamaha!


Off topic:
Was just thinking....If I was a billionaire like Gates ;). I would give a couple million to Suzuki to have them produce a all new Rm250 and Rm150. hehehe

But I would have some requirements:
-Steel frame
-hydralic clutch
-brembo brakes w/oversize wave rotors
-Carburetor (works great, why change it to something more complicated?)
-New plastics
-Completely new motor
-4T style shrouds
-Yamaha style hydro swing arm
-Billet triple clamps
-1 1/8 bars
-$6500 max MSRP =)

awww a man can only dream.....



Pretty much hit the nail on the head. A reworked motor wouldn't hurt either to pump out a bit more power stock.

Edit: Also a better transmission.

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Re: Riddle me this....
« Reply #40 on: November 02, 2010, 03:54:04 PM »


Oh,don't be sad TMKIWI,if it would make you feel better I'll send you some YZ graphics :D

Only if it a set of 05 retro graphics. ;D


Ok then,how about these?





I know they're fugly but at least they should go a long way towards covering up that "baby blue" tee,hee :D
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Re: Riddle me this....
« Reply #41 on: November 02, 2010, 06:49:55 PM »
Well, that's one way to make people think you bought a Husaberg...


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Re: Riddle me this....
« Reply #42 on: November 03, 2010, 02:18:26 AM »
Well, that's one way to make people think you bought a Husaberg...

Ha, that was funny !!
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« Reply #43 on: November 03, 2010, 09:23:32 AM »
Well, that's one way to make people think you bought a Husaberg...

Agreed.Whenever I see Yamaha printed in big letters I immediately think Husaberg as well :-X :)
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« Reply #44 on: November 03, 2010, 09:50:46 PM »


Ok then,how about these?





I know they're fugly but at least they should go a long way towards covering up that "baby blue" tee,hee :D

Yep you are right. FUGLY
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