Riddle me this....

[ford832]

I've read various time on here people complaining about Yamaha selling their 2t's with only bng and repetitive use of the term "old technology".I'm not trying to defend them and would love to see an update but what exactly is old tech about them?The fuel delivery system?Everything else is current.
At the same time,when the link to the new TM's is posted,everyone goes nuts about them.Granted,I'd love to have one myself but where is the "new tech" in a TM that Yamaha lacks?

[2smoker]

The look is outdated and would like to have the yz to be a bit more flikeable.. and yeah add an hydraulic clutch and a full fi system so the sheep out there can stop complaining and start buying the 2 stroke again. and the TM has some delicious bits on it!

[Charles Owens]

I only own Yamaha's, but I will be getting a TM.
Not because of any technology, just so I can give an honest opinion about it and check it out myself.
I don't see Yamaha's 2t's as neglected, more like close to perfected.

[msambuco]

My 08 YZ250 is clearly the best bike I ever owned. After having a great bike in my yz426 I suffered through years on my 03 yz450. The yz250 is despite being "old technology" way better than the 03. Like the post above I see them as perfected. Neutral handeling, works like suspention, cheap hop ups (power), DOES NOT BREAK, and lots of usable HP. As far as outdated looks go mine looks very modern whenever I ride fast (not often but it does happen). I do hope the TM's do what they are designed for and we have a new choice. my kids are on a KX65 and a KX 85. I will rebuild my nephews 2001 RM125 as their next bike as I have no other choice . As they outgrow the RM I will need a 2 stroke to put them on as I am now a 2T only fan. Yeah I SAID IT, 2 STROKE ONLY!!!

[factoryX]

heres why :
YZ250

97 and up notice a pattern?   

[westsiderippa]

i think mine looks bad a--!!!!! and needless to say it f-ing RIPS!!!!!!!

[Super Trucker]

You mean 96 FactoryX,the Yz250 since 96 was a don,t do anything great,but don,t do anything bad handling and power wise,which isn,t a bad thing for a 250. The 125 since 96 went for a broad powerband,05 to 10 they like to blow 3rd and 4th gears,they need to fix there transmission. The TM 125  has a frame very similar to a cr125 and cr250f, which makes it better than the yz. And the TM 125 has a expert motor=alot of topend perfect for me, and the inner cooled bottom end  is very important and one of a kind.

[opfermanmotors]

They should have done a fast morph like this so you could see it better.



2010 Maico Motorcycles

[factoryX]

oops, I meant 96.  . The maico video was awesome.

[Turquine]

If I was going to buy a 250 2stroke motocrosser, the first question I want answered when comparing bikes is which one has more power. The YZ 250 is a nice bike, granted, but the KTM 250 SX simply has a lot more power. In my book, that means there is no contest, the KTM is a far superior machine. With the TMs, all I see is a lot of fancy bling. What can they really do? Will it pull the YZ through the gears, or the KTM? I certainly wouldn't fork over the money for one unless I knew for certain it could. I'd bet right now, the KTM would beat the TM 250 through the gears, and on the dyno, which translates into a better chance of a holeshot and a win. Handling isn't going to be bad on any of these machines and anyhow, each rider will wish to adjust them to his own riding style and preferences no matter the case. I'd never buy a TM, Maico or any other brand over the KTM until I saw for a fact that I am starting out, with more beans in the motor. Right now, the KTM 250 SX is the all time king of stock 2stroke MX motors. I'd love for Maico or TM to show me I'm wrong, but I'll bet they cannot. Balls before bling bling!

[eprovenzano]

Balls before bling bling!

Now there's a statement.... 

[SachsGS]

In comparing the TM to the YZ I think it is a case of the TM having caught up to the YZ in terms of technology and, if TM maintains this momentum, they will very soon surpass the stagnant YZ.

[factoryX]

I thought they already had. 

[JETZcorp]

Hey Turquine, did you work for Can-Am in the '70s?  Because your attitude about power seems to be IDENTICAL to theirs.  And hey, they managed to pick up a pretty good stack of trophies with it!

[GlennC]

I recently purchased a 2010 YZ250, I considered the other two stroke 250's, Here's my decision process.
I race desert Hare & Hound 40 - 80 miles, I do practice loops of race mileage + 10 miles.
I am racing in the senior class (40-49), and I'm at the high side of the class, So I really don't have to go that fast.

I need:
A broad spread of power (the YZ is great).
Reliability (Yamaha is legendary).
Parts availability (My local Yamaha dealer is great, The parts Mgr. races a 2009 YZ250) .
Smooth ride (SSS is awesome).

I don't care about:
Peak HP numbers.
Bling.

I don't like:
Perimeter frames.
hydraulic clutches.
My local KYM dealer.
Mail order parts.

So for me it was an easy choice.