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Offline SachsGS

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« on: November 23, 2012, 05:23:22 PM »
Those of you concerned about (quite rightfully) increasing complexity in offroad motorcycles brace your self because things are going to get even more complicated. Move over EFI and DFI because Sachs Suspension has just introduced "Skyhook" technology, a system that mounts sensors (accelerometers) on the sprung and unsprung parts of a motorcycle. The information derived from these sensors is fed into a computer that instantaneously modifies compression and rebound damping to suit terrain at that moment. Apparently it works extremely well. Presently available for street bikes it is only a matter of time before this technology works it's way offroad.
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« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2012, 05:58:20 PM »
the dumb get dumber.
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« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2012, 07:08:48 PM »
That's sounds pretty cool. How much do you reckon it will cost if they decide to bring it out?
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« Reply #3 on: November 23, 2012, 10:29:26 PM »
"The dumb get dumber"   too late!
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« Reply #4 on: November 23, 2012, 11:01:04 PM »
I wonder how much the control module will cost if it craps out...
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« Reply #5 on: November 23, 2012, 11:15:30 PM »
I wonder how much the control module will cost if it craps out...

very expensive  :<img src=" title="Roll Eyes" class="smiley">

http://au.suntekstore.com/goods.php?id=14002219&utm_source=gbau

3 axis

http://www.freetronics.com/products/3-axis-accelerometer-module
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« Reply #6 on: November 23, 2012, 11:53:23 PM »
Am I the only one who thinks that advancing technology is a good thing?

If people didn't keep modernising stuff then we would all still be riding air cooled foopers with girder forks and short travel twin shocks.
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« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2012, 12:19:43 AM »
I like advancing technology, but there needs to be some limits. The way things are going kids wont/already dont have the same chance to ride and race growing up that kids 10 years ago had. I say that because i beleive with the 4 strokes along with the recession it has already gone to far, and the addition of EFI,traction control, and "skyhook suspension" they will sell boring bikes that do most of the work for you... that we watch go around a track on tv.  Or maybe even worse, all of the above, but battery powered... Electronics on DIRTBIKES should be minimal.  Advance the "hard parts" and keep the rest out of competition.
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« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2012, 12:21:38 AM »
well, i just think it makes for a more technical rider to understand what his machine is doing and how to correct its faults to better his riding as opposed to having the machine do everything for him. I also go by the premise that not all change is good.
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« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2012, 12:45:50 AM »
While I agree with some of your points this new suspension and EFI or DI if all done to the same bike would mean that any rider could have a bike thats setup perfectly for every race. Less time setting your bike up means more time riding it.

I used to quite enjoy rebuilding my bikes and generally aintaining and fixing things on them while I was at home but when I got to a track I wanted to ride not mess around with clickers and jetting.
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« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2012, 02:20:02 AM »
I'm with you, gpnewhouse7 , we should be advancing all the time but we seem to have stalled. Don't be afraid of a few electronics moving in ( so long as they don't clean the fridge out ). Here I go again EFI, is not a bad piece of Tec, fourstrokes have it twostrokes should also. Traction control would help with the fight against fourstrokes, all good stuff and available now. Manufactures aren't interested so what's stopping people like us having a go. There is no reason why a 250 T shouldn't out perform a 450 F with a little electronic help! In this forum is a guy putting a 250 T in a 250 F frame, a real nice job, but we could do so much more. I remember when CDI was thought to be the work of the devil!
In saying that I can't wait for this reed valve "flash in the pan" to finish and we can revert back to Rotary Valve!
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« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2012, 02:29:28 AM »
with all the technology being incorporated in to modern bikes, I'm surprised there haven't been major advancements in suspension. Different designs, different technology, electronics? etc..... In my mind, a modern,  well tuned motor, in stock form, has plenty of power. Controlling that power and being able to redirect it at a high rate of speed, over varied types of terrain, is the direction I think technology should go. I'll take better suspension over more power any day ....
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« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2012, 02:48:47 AM »
Average off road rider? Yes. Professional racing? No. Where is the fine line of who actually is doing the riding? The bike or the rider? F1 had this suspension in the early 90's and was removed due to this fact. It will simply allow people to ride faster, and that isn't always a good thing. Modern GP has 135lb(If not lighter) riders on 200hp 1000cc bikes. How? Traction control...
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« Reply #13 on: November 24, 2012, 04:35:42 AM »
All of the technology is cool, and will make bikes go even faster... even with less skilled riders. Todays bikes are fast enough, take out the "fight" for traction and add "auto adjust suspension" and the tracks will just get more crazy to keep up.  This would both add cost to an already expensive sport, and add more danger for serious injuries when it becomes common for your local track to have 4th gear 160ft quads... like this one



Like i said, more danger for SERIOUS injury. No doubt that some of the technology could help safety, but When you have to go bigger and bigger to push it to the limits it just makes your mistakes that much more serious.

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« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2012, 08:21:12 AM »
The only reason for tracks getting faster has nothing to do with Technology. The reason you see faster bikes on tracks today is that tracks are flatter to adjust to 4t power characteristics. 4 strokes like flat ground, not rough terrain.  This allows for bigger jumps which at this point is causing a list of injuries and so far even deaths.
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