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Offline JohnN

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Project Two 50 Update - MicroBlue Racing
« on: June 10, 2010, 10:33:15 AM »
Hello Guys,

As you know we have been working very hard on getting the bike all ironed out and ready to race. There have been some very interesting developments, hence some delays.

One of our sponsors Craig at MicroBlue has helped us in more ways than I could ever convey...

His help and guidance have taken us down a path we would never have suspected.

Over my vacation I wrote the beginning of the article now published on the main TSM site.

http://twostrokemotocross.com/2010/06/microblue-racing-sponsors-project-two-50-results-in-low-emission-yz250-two-stroke/

May I ask you a favor? For those of you that think this is worth sharing, would you mind posting a link on other message boards you may be members of?

That would be greatly appreciated.

I know that I'm asking a great deal here, but if you do post it be respectful and don't knock anyone. All that stuff does is force folks to "defend" themselves and lose sight of what's truly important.

Thank you!
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Re: Project Two 50 Update - MicroBlue Racing
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2010, 11:59:42 AM »
Are you going to race or not?

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Re: Project Two 50 Update - MicroBlue Racing
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2010, 12:24:44 PM »
Hey John i posted it on my blog on my message board but not alot of people go there yet(im working on that)but i posted it anyways,its strickly a moto board and if any of you want to join be my guest.Pm me for the info........Braaaaappppppppppppppp  ;D




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Re: Project Two 50 Update - MicroBlue Racing
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2010, 03:54:35 PM »
Done.Pretty interesting stuff there John.Have you put a sniffer up the pipe to compare actual emission levels and percentages or is the reduction primarily due to a leaner oil mix.Sometimes as HC goes down ox/n goes up etc.Just curious.
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Re: Project Two 50 Update - MicroBlue Racing
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2010, 04:49:52 PM »
Hey John,
I noticed on the Micro Blue website that they dont list a microblue bearing kit for the YZ250. I take it now that they have done yours that they will have a kit available. I am super interested in going through my motor and replacing all bearings with these micro blue bearings.
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Re: Project Two 50 Update - MicroBlue Racing
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2010, 09:14:29 PM »
Are you going to race or not?

YES!! We will be at Budds Creek.

Ford - Yes we used an emissions gas analyzer to test the emissions. I am not at liberty to share the readings.....  They are not the property of Project Two 50, at lest not yet!  ;D

I know that some folks have commented on the leaner oil not contributing to lower emissions.. I do not claim to know everything but I have a few thoughts to share, you make up your own mind.

The way it was explained to me is that the oil particulate matter in two-stroke exhaust is much larger than the gas particulates. These particles have a tendency to "push" the gas particles out, sort of like a bowling ball to pins. As most everyone knows, there is a supercharger effect that draws a large portion of fuel back into the cylinder.

Now for some questions to ponder... could it be that those big oil particles could prevent the gas particles from being pushed back into the engine? Is it possible that the oil could lower the temperature inside the exhaust pipe? You could theorize that the oil could prevent the unburned gas from evaporating....

Like I said at the beginning, I don't know the answers and will not really know the full scope of what we have accomplished until the bike is tested by an independent testing facility.

SwapperMX - Please give MicroBlue Racing a call... they have the YZ250 engine bearing kits in stock.
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Re: Project Two 50 Update - MicroBlue Racing
« Reply #6 on: June 11, 2010, 05:45:00 AM »
Done, on my facebook, plus the other local board I frequent.
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« Reply #7 on: June 11, 2010, 06:59:51 AM »
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Re: Project Two 50 Update - MicroBlue Racing
« Reply #8 on: June 13, 2010, 04:27:36 AM »
Interesting.Thanks for the info John.I'd have a few questions here but will wait for the final data/results.
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Re: Project Two 50 Update - MicroBlue Racing
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2011, 10:41:32 AM »
I found the microblue bearing thread, haha. But there,s bad news on there website most 2-st bearings are not listed anymore. Example there was cr125,cr250 now there,s nothing listed. Along with nothing for YZ,or RM, but they have kits for KTM,s yet.

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Re: Project Two 50 Update - MicroBlue Racing
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2011, 01:49:11 PM »
A YZ don't need no stinkin' special coatings. :D
I was curious what actually caused the final meltdown but in the end,I had to be content with my own suppositions. ::)
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Re: Project Two 50 Update - MicroBlue Racing
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2011, 09:31:08 PM »
710

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Re: Project Two 50 Update - MicroBlue Racing
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2011, 10:00:22 PM »
710
  710 ? What,s that Glen, are we using code again haha. If so I forgot what 710 is.

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Re: Project Two 50 Update - MicroBlue Racing
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2011, 10:18:31 PM »
Yes we are talking in code.


Write "710 ON" on a peice of paper, then turn it upside down. this will be the reason that project 250 failed.
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Re: Project Two 50 Update - MicroBlue Racing
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2011, 10:32:51 PM »
Ok a 0 is the same, a 1 is a 1 upside down, and a 7 upside down is not a number. So I got it  01 in code is a  batch of bad gas. ;D