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Offline smaltz138

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« on: December 21, 2011, 10:27:52 PM »
So here goes. Got tired of 4 stroke problems, got two 11yz250 . Use bellray h1r 32:1 with 93 octane non ethanol gas. One bike destroyed 2 pistons each within 10 hours. The other bike just broke a piston on the top, above the ring exhaust side.????
Checked fuel cans and tanks yes oil mixed. Air boots super clean, filters changed after each ride.
any info would help. We have been heavily involved in mx for 11 years and this is a first.
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« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2011, 11:23:32 PM »
Try looking for any debris in your bottom end. OR check the screws where your red valves attach to the reed cage. I have heard of those breaking off and wreaking havoc on the inside of an engine.
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« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2011, 11:29:54 PM »
Thanks, all good, less than 8 hours on the one bike
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« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2011, 12:54:04 AM »
did you try clicking that lever on the left side of the engine up once in a while?
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« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2011, 01:12:59 AM »
Jetting sounds like a great place to start.
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« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2011, 01:24:13 AM »
did it scored the cylinder? maybe the jetting is too lean..

did that happend with cast of forged pistons?
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« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2011, 01:34:06 AM »
If not the jetting then maybe you have an air leak between the carb slide and the intake port. Does it want to rev up on its own when you start it?
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« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2011, 01:35:26 AM »
OEM pistons, stock jetting. Bike properly ridden by aggressive amateur national rider with 11you years racing experience.
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« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2011, 01:48:33 AM »
Thanks checked for air leaks, also this is 3 pistons on 2 different bikes. After rebuilds we going to switch to cam2 and maxima 927.
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« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2011, 02:35:57 AM »
I'd do some digging on Thumpertalk, I seem to rememeber reading about timing issues on the YZs. The piston problems could be a result of too far advanced timing.
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« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2011, 04:39:37 AM »
Pictures of sparkplugs and damaged pistons?
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« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2011, 04:53:10 AM »
I wouldn't bother switching oil brands , nothing wrong with Bel Ray.
I would be checking for, filter not sealing properly, Ignition timming, Check the carb anyway just incase something was wrong from the factory.
Your bike wouldn't be going thru pistons for no reason.

Pictures of sparkplugs and damaged pistons?

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« Reply #12 on: December 22, 2011, 01:56:40 PM »
I have read in a few magazines that the newer YZ250's are jetted pretty lean stock, right on the edge of detonation.  Possibly try a 50/50 mix of leaded race gas and pump gas???
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« Reply #13 on: December 22, 2011, 03:54:33 PM »
Thanks checked for air leaks, also this is 3 pistons on 2 different bikes. After rebuilds we going to switch to cam2 and maxima 927.

I used to love bel ray products... Went through 3 pistons in one year on my CR250 using H1R. Same story mixed properly, good air seal, name brand pistons. All machine work done by LA Sleeve (They are good).

I switched to Castor 927 3 years ago, and haven't siezed a piston since.
My current bikes are a 2010 YZ250, and a 2004 Service Honda CR500AF. Both of them have many hours with no problems.

I would still check the jetting though.
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« Reply #14 on: December 22, 2011, 05:30:05 PM »
Hey, thanks. From what I read and hear from others, must have been fuel. Going to switch to cam2, and will update next week.
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