Jeff Gibson

[Coop]

Awesome, I am really bummed now I missed the race.

[snook620]

A 250f has twice the CC of a 125. A 450 has under twice the CC of a 250. Just because there is less of a difference 250 to 125, it is not easier.

Agreed. The touque those little 250f time bombs are putting out would be harder for a small bore 2 stroke to match in the pro class were everyone is almost perfect. The big bikes are just fast 2 and 4.

[oldschoolmx]

Neither rider cracked the top 30 overall, but they still did awesome, especially second moto!

[monsteryz125]

A 250f has twice the CC of a 125. A 450 has under twice the CC of a 250. Just because there is less of a difference 250 to 125, it is not easier.

Agreed. The touque those little 250f time bombs are putting out would be harder for a small bore 2 stroke to match in the pro class were everyone is almost perfect. The big bikes are just fast 2 and 4.

Ahhh thanks guys, i didnt take that into consideration i was thinking just in terms of horsepower

[Shawn36]

A 250f has twice the CC of a 125. A 450 has under twice the CC of a 250. Just because there is less of a difference 250 to 125, it is not easier.

Agreed. The touque those little 250f time bombs are putting out would be harder for a small bore 2 stroke to match in the pro class were everyone is almost perfect. The big bikes are just fast 2 and 4.

Ahhh thanks guys, i didnt take that into consideration i was thinking just in terms of horsepower

With the AMA pro gas rules a 125 would be totally gutless compared to heavily modified 250Fs.  Back in the day with 2-strokes people ran high octane leaded fuel, which is now outlawed.  A 125 suffers a much bigger disadvantage from that than a 250.  That's not to say it can't be done.  One fast lap is all it takes to make the gate, which in the unseeded B practice would be easiest to get.  But off the start it would be terrible, and passing 250Fs on momentum alone is a brutal chore. 

[Charles Owens]

I'm pleased with how they did, especially moto 2. It may not sound too great, but it's a step in the right direction. Those 250 smokers did beat 15+/- 450's

[luthier269]

I would like to thank John Nicholas for all his efforts with this web site and Project 250. He made it possible for people to belive they could compete on a Two Stroke. Beliving you can do it is 90% of the battle. I know even at a local level the pressure to ride a Four Stroke is immense people make fun of you for riding a Two Stroke untill you beat them. The doubt is starting to melt away and I think it started with John and all of the members of this web site.

[ACMX]

In all honesty, nowadays more people get made fun of for riding four strokes. Go read some comments on youtube, or comments to facebook photos. AE transworld mx posted a pic of the 2012 KTM two strokes, it got tons and tons of pro two stroke and only about 2-3 pro four stroke. The fastest guys in my town ride two strokes. We've got a couple pros here and I know they rode two strokes as long as they could. But now they are on teams and have to ride 450's

[Charles Owens]

People want to ride what wins.. I know when I'm at the track every weekend. People are going back to two's.
I personally know several people that have followed Jeremys path to the smoker.

[Kembo693]

Here is some photos of Gibson and Newcome:

[Charles Owens]

Nice pics!

[miedosoracing]

I'm pleased with how they did, especially moto 2. It may not sound too great, but it's a step in the right direction. Those 250 smokers did beat 15+/- 450's

+ don't forget the 40 or more 450F's that did not even qualify. So I agree, they did really good, considering they are on bikes that lack in HP because of the unfair disadvantages given to 4 strokes.  Let us have 300cc 2 strokes, and let's see how things will change fast. 

[oldschoolmx]

Thanks for the awesome pics!

[luthier269]

I agree with the fact that more and more riders are going to Two-Strokes.It depends on where you ride, the local track runs AMA pro rules yuck and less Two-Strokes. And the Fl Mx seires runs AMA amateuer rules and a lot more Two Strokes.

[miedosoracing]

I agree with the fact that more and more riders are going to Two-Strokes.It depends on where you ride, the local track runs AMA pro rules yuck and less Two-Strokes. And the Fl Mx seires runs AMA amateuer rules and a lot more Two Strokes.

You need to get with some people to petition that track and the track promoter to change over due to costs and the economy.  Tell them that AMA is and most states have switched to that. It happened here in Texas.  That was huge in my opinion.  Let them know more people need to be able to afford to race, thus more people at their tracks on race day.