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Two Stroke Motocross Forum => Open Forum => Topic started by: gpnewhouse7 on June 23, 2013, 08:02:59 PM

Title: Advice on bodywork and panel beating
Post by: gpnewhouse7 on June 23, 2013, 08:02:59 PM
Hi guys, this will be a bit of an odd post for this site but its the only forum I'm on and you all seem fairly knowledgeable people so here goes.
I've been working on restoring an old International tractor and now need to create some new mudguards and doors, the problem I'm having is that the mudguards curves on two axis.
Unfortunately my camera is broken at the minute and this is the only photo I have of it, you can see what I mean though about the mudguards.



Thanks in advance guys, your advice is always appreciated.
Title: Advice on bodywork and panel beating
Post by: rlaj1004 on June 23, 2013, 09:13:12 PM
You need an English wheel, and its an fine art to use one.
Title: Advice on bodywork and panel beating
Post by: Lolerbabop on June 23, 2013, 09:21:20 PM
Nah.
Title: Advice on bodywork and panel beating
Post by: ford832 on June 23, 2013, 11:58:15 PM
You need an English wheel, and its an fine art to use one.

X2,practice on your buddies' tractor first. ;D

http://www.youtube.com/channel/HCVXDjTamkLZk


Too easy!  ;)
Title: Advice on bodywork and panel beating
Post by: Lolerbabop on June 24, 2013, 12:46:07 AM
He's gonna make a flat door and a square fender.... No need for an english wheel there. Just build a framework out of square tubes and weld on sheet metal.
Title: Advice on bodywork and panel beating
Post by: ford832 on June 24, 2013, 02:03:05 AM
Then why would it "curve on two axis" ?
Title: Advice on bodywork and panel beating
Post by: Lolerbabop on June 24, 2013, 02:17:26 AM
**** knows.
Title: Advice on bodywork and panel beating
Post by: rlaj1004 on June 24, 2013, 03:03:57 AM
Well despite your post gpnewhouse, you don't have fenders that curve on two axis, even if you think you do. Sheesh

Anyway if you do an English wheel is the best way to accomplish that if you want something that doesn't look like a horses arse when you are done. Another way to make the bend is make wood molds from the original fenders and hammer the snot out of it. That is sort of an art form too. Might want to practice some, you could use aluminum instead of steel, bends easier depending on the mix and hardness. O bends easy but real soft, T-3 might work. You have to make sure you do the sharper bends against the grain.
Title: Advice on bodywork and panel beating
Post by: VintageBlueSmoke on June 24, 2013, 09:45:17 AM
Ah, come on! You can do better than that! Vintage Preston Petty Husqvarna rear fenders or better yet, the 1982 Can-Am rear fender with numberplate! And the Can-Am came in two versions of Orange - one should match the International!
Title: Advice on bodywork and panel beating
Post by: gpnewhouse7 on June 24, 2013, 11:25:34 AM
Well they curve along the length and width of the tractor so I presumed that it therefore meant curved along two axis.
I'll try to get some better pictures taken as soon as I get my camera working.

I'll start looking for an english wheel then, the cheap crap on ebay starts at 100 so I'll see if I can find a higher quality second hand one for sale.
Title: Advice on bodywork and panel beating
Post by: rlaj1004 on June 24, 2013, 01:01:16 PM
Well they curve along the length and width of the tractor so I presumed that it therefore meant curved along two axis.
I'll try to get some better pictures taken as soon as I get my camera working.

I'll start looking for an english wheel then, the cheap crap on ebay starts at 100 so I'll see if I can find a higher quality second hand one for sale.

I think you were correct the first time, considering it is your tractor. my post was not directed at you.
Keep us posted on the English wheel. Interested to see how you fair with it
Title: Advice on bodywork and panel beating
Post by: gpnewhouse7 on June 24, 2013, 01:33:13 PM
Would it be stupid to just make an english wheel like this guy has?

http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=31566

I'm asking because they look pretty simple to make and I'd only need it for this one occasion so its a bit painful forking out hundreds of pounds for it.
Title: Advice on bodywork and panel beating
Post by: rlaj1004 on June 24, 2013, 04:48:08 PM
Would it be stupid to just make an english wheel like this guy has?

http://www.mig-welding.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=31566

I'm asking because they look pretty simple to make and I'd only need it for this one occasion so its a bit painful forking out hundreds of pounds for it.

They are a relatively simple piece of equipment. A big ball on the bottom pinched against a bigger wheel, and a way to vary the pressure or pinch.  ( old car jack ) And depending on how big a piece your running through it would determine how big a throat you need. Go for it  :D post detailed pics so we can learn  :D