Post by: twosmoke595 on April 21, 2013, 03:58:21 AM
"In an two-part interview in "Cycle News," KTM CEO Stefan Peirer revealed some of his plans for Husqvarna (which KTM bought from BMW several months ago).
(1) In the future Husqvarna will focus on its motocross and offroad roots. That means no more 900cc street bikes, Steve McQueen concept bikes, Stradas or twin-cylinder machines.
(2) Two-strokes will play a big role in Husky?s future with new 125cc, 250cc and 300cc motocross models coming. Peirer made reference to projects already in the works at Husqvarna, which implies that the engines will be proprietary to Husqvarna?not shared with KTM and KTM-owned Husaberg.
(3) Word had already leaked out from Husqvarna that they have a revised 250cc four-stroke engine already built for 2014, but Peirer added that they will also have a 450cc four-stroke (to replace the horrible Taiwanese-built BMW 450 engine).
(4) Production of the motocross and enduro models will stay in Italy, but R&D will move to KTM. The Husqvarna plant in Italy is fully automated and virtually new, thanks to BMW?s investments, but it is assumed that at some point KTM would consider moving all Husqvarna production to a cheaper and less union driven country...but where?
(5) The answer could be India. There will be a Husqvarna branch in India. Bajaj, which partners with KTM on the 125 Duke, 200 Duke and upcoming 390 Duke, will introduce a Husqvarna line of dual-purpose bikes for the Indian market. These bikes will be made in India, where the Bajaj/KTM plant has the capacity to build more bikes than they are currently producing. That will give Bajaj three nameplates in the Indian market (Bajaj, Husqvarna and KTM). It is assumed that KTM will be at the top of the pyramid price-wise with Husqvarna second and Bajaj at the entry-level.
(6) Husqvarna will make a big-bore single-cylinder four-stroke, in the 650cc to 690cc range, for the popular supermoto market in Europe.
(7) Existing Husqvarna dealers will be given the opportunity, where possible, to take on the Husaberg line. This will give Husky dealers product to sell while the Husqvarna product line undergoes development. It will also give the dealers more experience with the KTM way of doing business."
To read the whole interview go to www.cyclenews.com.
Post by: factoryX on April 21, 2013, 06:02:07 AM
Post by: SwapperMX on April 21, 2013, 07:17:56 AM
Post by: SachsGS on April 21, 2013, 02:39:31 PM
Post by: VintageBlueSmoke on April 21, 2013, 02:52:12 PM
Post by: citabjockey on April 21, 2013, 03:12:03 PM
It looks to me that KTM is trying to be the motorcycle version of GM or Ford. Buy up the competition and profit off the different brands eventuall narrowing the differences until the only thing left is the name plate. Don't get me wrong, it is good new that KTM bought Husqvarna from BMW - and that BMW bought from Cagiva (et al). It is also good to join the Husqvarna and Husaberg brands again in one family. I guess I am just depressed with all this vanilla motorcycle market and miss the innovation and manufacturer differences of the '70's.
Post by: Coop on April 21, 2013, 06:03:25 PM
Post by: Stusmoke on April 22, 2013, 02:02:51 AM
Post by: SwapperMX on April 22, 2013, 04:55:22 AM
Dick yeah. I'm looking forward to seeing Husqvarna back on the podium all across the globe. If anyone can do it, its KTMs team.
Dick yeah ??
Post by: riffraff on April 22, 2013, 05:20:35 AM
Dick yeah. I'm looking forward to seeing Husqvarna back on the podium all across the globe. If anyone can do it, its KTMs team.
Dick yeah ??
I was wondering about that too
Post by: Chrisshire on April 22, 2013, 08:30:03 AM
How exciting
Post by: Stusmoke on April 22, 2013, 08:59:58 AM
Dick yeah. I'm looking forward to seeing Husqvarna back on the podium all across the globe. If anyone can do it, its KTMs team.
Dick yeah ??
I was wondering about that too
Its gonna be a thing! I woke up one morning and saw that Crysis 2 was coming out in whenever it was I don't remember and I thought to myself aw f*** yeah. And then I thought that it was used too commonly and s*** yeah wasn't much better. So I made up a new one.
Post by: VintageBlueSmoke on April 22, 2013, 10:06:34 AM
(Caveat: When I am quoting someone else, it doesn't count. )
Post by: SwapperMX on April 22, 2013, 10:35:14 AM
OK, I give anyone permission to immediately and repetedly kick me in the nuts until I puke if you ever here me say "Dick Yeah".
(Caveat: When I am quoting someone else, it doesn't count. )
Deal !!
Post by: Jeram on April 22, 2013, 10:45:37 AM
dick? ... yeah!
Or possible worse, its a tween word!!!!!
Dick Yeah ~ adverb
Definition: An interjection of satisfaction (often used by teenage boys obsessed with their genitals.)
The word "dick" replaces other swear words such as fuck and hell to sound more obscene and male oriented.
in a sentence: root beer? Aw dick yeah!!! I love root beer!!!
PS: I didn't even have to make that up
Post by: SwapperMX on April 22, 2013, 11:19:37 AM
Post by: citabjockey on April 22, 2013, 02:53:14 PM
Post by: SachsGS on April 22, 2013, 03:03:16 PM
Post by: factoryX on April 22, 2013, 05:20:45 PM
The reason I slightly doubt they will change it is that BMW actually spent some money on development, especially on their 4 stroke line(And whatever they were holding out on us 2 stroke wise). Their swing arm pivot/sprocket axis is badass.
Post by: factoryX on April 22, 2013, 05:32:56 PM
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Post by: Stusmoke on April 23, 2013, 12:46:21 AM
Post by: riffraff on April 23, 2013, 04:35:47 AM
Don't ask me how I sourced this, 2014 wr300
Mmmmm, me like
Post by: maicoman009 on April 23, 2013, 04:50:50 AM
This looks too much like a photo shopped Husaberg TE-250 or 300? It looks great though but I hope KTM does'nt bring the Husqvarna out in the blue/yellow color scheme! I personally liked the red/white & black Husqvarnas the best so hopefully KTM will make them those colors or @ least make them look somewhat different from the Husabergs....Don't ask me how I sourced this, 2014 wr300
Mmmmm, me like
BTW I'm still waiting for Maico Int. to bring out a nice fat bar Maico-320,380 or 500 enduro model & hopefully NOT with so much white freakin' plastic!!!
Post by: factoryX on April 23, 2013, 05:03:33 AM
Post by: maicoman009 on April 23, 2013, 05:24:27 AM
Good luck on that, but yea its an 04 cr250 shroud and panel shopped over a te300. I am absolutely shocked on how everything lined up though. I personally loved a the blue and yellow huskies, but this was taking a pot shot at KTM for throwing blue plastics on a 300xcw hahaI also liked the blue & yellow Huskies & still would if the Husabergs were'nt blue & yellow...I saw a 4-stroke Husaberg in one of the MXA or Dirt Rider mags a year or so ago & it was done in mostly black & blue & it looked great imo.At least different than the status quo blue/yellow Husaberg xcw....lol.
Post by: Jeram on April 23, 2013, 05:30:16 AM
Ill put money on the new Husky motor being a game changer. Not necessarily due to EFI etc etc, but I think it will be better than the KTM
whether its faster, lighter, more fuel efficient, emmissions efficient I dont know, but I have a feeling that its going to be something very trick.
I say this because their existing 2T engines are a cracker of a motor and yet they've completely gone back to the drawing board with it, why?
PS: Stusmoke, its ok you can say Dick Yeah as much as you like. I dont care really, I was just shit stirring you.
(as long as its not a gentleman's proposition)
Post by: maicoman009 on April 23, 2013, 05:42:08 AM
WIll be interesting to see how this pans out.I agree with that Jeram.In recent test the Husky wr-300 was faster than the KTM-300 & the Gas Gas 300xc plus did'nt Cycle World mag have a pic of what the next Husqvarna WR-300 would probably look like & it was suppose to be FI or DI & possibly be street legal? I almost bought a Husky WR-300 in 2011 but the shop had to order it & I was a tad bit impatient & juat bought the ktm-300xc...
Ill put money on the new Husky motor being a dame changes. Not nessisarily due to EFI etc etc, but I think it will be better than the KTM
whether its faster, lighter, more fuel efficient, emmissions efficient I dont know, but I have a feeling that its going to be something very trick.
I say this because their existing 2T engines are a cracker of a motor and yet they've completely gone back to the drawing board with it, why?
PS: Stusmoke, its ok you can say Dick Yeah as much as you like. I dont care really, I was just shit stirring you.
(as long as its not a gentleman's proposition)
Post by: Jeram on April 23, 2013, 06:39:36 AM
I've been hearing 2-2.5k off RRps
Post by: factoryX on April 23, 2013, 07:09:46 AM
Damn
Post by: Stusmoke on April 23, 2013, 07:42:34 AM
WIll be interesting to see how this pans out.
Ill put money on the new Husky motor being a game changer. Not necessarily due to EFI etc etc, but I think it will be better than the KTM
whether its faster, lighter, more fuel efficient, emmissions efficient I dont know, but I have a feeling that its going to be something very trick.
I say this because their existing 2T engines are a cracker of a motor and yet they've completely gone back to the drawing board with it, why?
PS: Stusmoke, its ok you can say Dick Yeah as much as you like. I dont care really, I was just shit stirring you.
(as long as its not a gentleman's proposition)
Lol I'm only kidding around aswell. But after your explanation I need something else.... I'll keep you guys posted.
With regards to the Husky, I love the red and white. And black. The blue and yellow does look dreaful I think. Its like a suzuki and Yamaha mated.
Post by: Micahdogg on April 23, 2013, 03:09:46 PM
It looks to me that KTM is trying to be the motorcycle version of GM or Ford. Buy up the competition and profit off the different brands eventuall narrowing the differences until the only thing left is the name plate. Don't get me wrong, it is good new that KTM bought Husqvarna from BMW - and that BMW bought from Cagiva (et al). It is also good to join the Husqvarna and Husaberg brands again in one family. I guess I am just depressed with all this vanilla motorcycle market and miss the innovation and manufacturer differences of the '70's.
Husky seems to have largely survived by not being a better alternative, but for NOT being KTM. The Husky vs. KTM partisanship is almost thicker than those brands going head to head with the Japs. So yeah, I don't see a lot of enthusiasm on either side about this decision.
At least Beta is starting to take off so the circle is complete.
Post by: Jeram on April 29, 2013, 09:22:07 AM
not looking good for huskies future.
Post by: SwapperMX on April 29, 2013, 10:29:52 AM
Well, they just closed down the Husky factory and sacked 200 of their staff.
not looking good for huskies future.
That was likely always going to happen. They were looking at, and i dare say will be, moving the factory to India.
Post by: factoryX on April 29, 2013, 06:44:00 PM
Post by: Micahdogg on April 29, 2013, 09:57:34 PM
Post by: Jeram on April 30, 2013, 02:55:27 AM
If they shared chassis thats ok, but aslong as the plastics are a different design and the engines have some differences I will be happy.
A husky engine slotted into a KTM frame with Husky plastics would be OK in my books.
Post by: 2STROKEREVOLUTION on April 30, 2013, 08:38:35 AM
Post by: tom.erik.brauer on May 06, 2013, 02:55:57 PM
Post by: SwapperMX on May 07, 2013, 01:19:20 AM
Wait a minute. I remember hearing that KTM does NOT own Husky. It is just Stefan Peirer that owns it. So there shouldn't be any KTM sharing going on.
Yeah, but look at Husaberg, and what happened there. Fair indication of future prospects for Husky.
Post by: VintageBlueSmoke on May 07, 2013, 10:41:50 AM
That said, the factory in Italy, if it every comes back on line, was supposed to be state of the art. In addition, there was a lot of R&D info that would have come with the company. If you remember, 'Berg had just completed a big R&D project when KTM scooped them up. Husky had a thing going when BMW took over and BMW had a lot of info poured into Husky too.
This is just one of those things where we will have to wait and see. Keep moving, nothing to look at here...
Post by: evo550 on May 07, 2013, 11:32:11 AM
Post by: gpnewhouse7 on May 07, 2013, 11:37:56 AM
KTM will have just resprayed their bike and called it a Berg because that was all they could do.
And seen as its the owner of KTM that has bought Husqy and not KTM itself then I would think he must be planning to run them as seperate companies.
Either way the KTM is hardly a turd so the KTM engine in the Husqy frame would probably still be a great bike.
Post by: evo550 on May 07, 2013, 11:54:08 AM
The original Husaberg line up (4t's) remained uniquely Husaberg.
KTM gave Husaberg buyers a 2t option, that is different enough to not be just a "rebadged" KTM.
I strongely doubt you will see a rebadged KTM in the Husky line up, unless it's a bike that's not already in the Husky lineup, and they pretty much have the market covered.
Post by: SwapperMX on May 07, 2013, 12:08:15 PM
What did KTM do to Husaberg that was bad ?
Nothing bad, but used that as an avenue for a testing ground, on bikes with very close bloodlines to the KTM range. Plenty of "sharing" going on.
Post by: SwapperMX on May 07, 2013, 12:14:51 PM
I think everyone needs to remember that Husaberg was 4 stroke only until KTM took over.
KTM will have just resprayed their bike and called it a Berg because that was all they could do.
And seen as its the owner of KTM that has bought Husqy and not KTM itself then I would think he must be planning to run them as seperate companies.
Either way the KTM is hardly a turd so the KTM engine in the Husqy frame would probably still be a great bike.
Also, Pierer doesn't own KTM, he is their CEO. KTM now has an Indian shareholder, Bajaj, with 49% I think.