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Two Stroke Motocross Forum => General Two Stroke Talk => Topic started by: Brap on March 20, 2013, 11:50:51 AM

Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: Brap on March 20, 2013, 11:50:51 AM
I bought my RM250 on May 16th 2012, I moved up from a clapped out 1998 RM125. I paid $1400 for the 250 and that was one of the best days of my life to finally have a "250". I was never very bike intelligent, i just rode the things. But I've always wanted to do a build and learn how to maintenance my own things, So after 8 or 9 months of no proper maintenance I got my bike back and the shock was blown which gave me the opportunity to finally rebuild it without worrying about missing a day to ride since there so scarce for myself. So here is my journey.... P.S I care about my bike alot thats why shes always clean and shiny but i had a choice between oil change and maintenance or go ride? And lets be honest, I'm going riding haha. I only rode maybe once every 2 months.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Huge thanks to [cnrcpla] for all the questions I had! Thanks Buddy.


Checking out the Pipe and Silencer!


P.P.S - I got my wisdom teeth pulled the day before thats why i'm all over the place. Mouths killing me and the pain pills don't do crap.




Here she is awhile before the rebuild.

My brothers dad put the bike up for me and just power washed it and put it up so she started to rust, needless to say i was pissed.

Can't believe I let it get this bad...

My first engine pull :D

Before:

Starting to clean the engine and cases up

Afterwards, Huge difference

All the reeds were melted, the bike idled very high

My first time opening the engine, I was very excited.

Rebuild time

Cylinder was in good condition

The new piston


Put everything back together

New chain and sprockets

New MX51's

Rear:

Before and after

Old ones:

New parts from motosport

Fresh grips

Cleaning up the swingarm

Ordered a new chain slider but it didn't come with washers and i have no idea where to get them.

New silencer

New pipe

Greasing them bearings

Forks are leaking a little bit

Found a circlip while cleaning up, hope to god its the old one

My workspace and pimped out lamp


Anybody know what the hell this is and where it goes? it seems to go on the carb but the bolts don't like up and there's none on the actual piece
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: cnrcpla on March 20, 2013, 12:38:17 PM
Came out nice man! Go get it dirty now, that's the best part  ;D
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: _X_ on March 20, 2013, 01:19:00 PM
good job brap.
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: Dirt Addict on March 20, 2013, 04:23:56 PM
that is the throttle position sensor. I've never messed with mine. Break out your manual and put it on correctly.....
Good job on the cleaning.
In the picture of the right side of the motor, the powervalve actuator, is that round disc piece on backwards? It looks like the backside is facing out? If I remember right, mine has two cutouts on it?
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: Brap on March 21, 2013, 12:06:38 AM
I'll pull the cover off real quick and check, it fell out when I spun the engine around so maybe I put it back in wrong.
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: Stusmoke on March 21, 2013, 01:54:50 AM
I would suggest making absolute certain that circlip is one of the old ones before riding... Nice job though, awesome to see!
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: Brap on March 21, 2013, 02:14:49 AM
I would suggest making absolute certain that circlip is one of the old ones before riding... Nice job though, awesome to see!

It is haha, Thanks!
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: Stusmoke on March 21, 2013, 04:02:53 AM
First time I did a top end, I had the bike all back together, seat and fuel tank on it was hot to trot. I pulled my shorts up to sit on it and kick it over and I felt a circlip in my pocket. Pulled it alllll back down had to buy a new gasket cos the sealant had set (mega pissed) only to find that it was in fact the old one :D Wasn't happy... Hey don't throw those circlips away by the by! If you ever need a pin for something around that size they slot through and you just bend em up. Fantastic stuff cos they are strong steel too!
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: Brap on March 21, 2013, 05:32:15 AM
I can't find an owners manual pdf online for free to save my life... ugh  :'(
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: _X_ on March 21, 2013, 11:21:12 AM
look at the correct parts diagram and it should show you how its installed.
http://www.cheapcycleparts.com/search?p_categories=All%2BProducts%252F%252F%252F%252FOEM+Parts
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: scotty dog on March 21, 2013, 01:38:46 PM
Nice job Brap looks real nice ;)
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: Brap on March 21, 2013, 07:10:08 PM
Got the TPS on, just waiting to get the shock rebuilt now...Need that $$$$  :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: Rm125guy on March 22, 2013, 03:40:19 AM
Whats a Works pipe? Like whats the difference between the fmf fatty and the fmf factory fatty for example?
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: Brap on March 22, 2013, 05:38:47 AM
Whats a Works pipe? Like whats the difference between the fmf fatty and the fmf factory fatty for example?

I'm not 100% sure, but with Pro Circuit it has the factory finish of raw metal and weld marks instead of the platinum finish. Maybe someone else can fill us in as i'd also like to know.  :D
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: chump6784 on March 22, 2013, 06:26:50 AM
I can't find an owners manual pdf online for free to save my life... ugh  :'(
I have a pdf for a 2003 rm 125. It is very similar to the 250, i used it all the time for my 2007 rm 250. its about 20 mb.
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: Brap on March 22, 2013, 06:36:39 AM
I can't find an owners manual pdf online for free to save my life... ugh  :'(
I have a pdf for a 2003 rm 125. It is very similar to the 250, i used it all the time for my 2007 rm 250. its about 20 mb.

Think you could toss me a link for it via a PM buddy? I'd greatly appreciate it
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: Brap on March 22, 2013, 08:51:46 AM
Decided to hold off on the graphics, Anyways since when did $150 stickers add HP?
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: scotty dog on March 22, 2013, 12:50:08 PM
Whats a Works pipe? Like whats the difference between the fmf fatty and the fmf factory fatty for example?
Factory pipe is bare metal, Fattys are nickel plated, nice n shiny n require bugger all maintenance compared to a factory finish.
PC call em a "works" pipe FMF call em "Factory"
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: Kembo693 on March 22, 2013, 05:54:18 PM
There is nothing more beautiful than a 2 stroke pipe and silencer... Ah. That Pro Circuit looks sick.
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: Brap on March 22, 2013, 07:54:28 PM
There is nothing more beautiful than a 2 stroke pipe and silencer... Ah. That Pro Circuit looks sick.

Thanks! i can't wait to hear it purr.

On a sidenote, I'm having a hard time finding the washers for my chain slider
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: Chrisshire on March 23, 2013, 12:00:46 AM
There is nothing more beautiful than a 2 stroke pipe and silencer... Ah. That Pro Circuit looks sick.

Thanks! i can't wait to hear it purr.

On a sidenote, I'm having a hard time finding the washers for my chain slider

part 15, get the screws as well, part 14
just order from the site, they shipped my yamaha parts to australia in no time
http://partsfinder.onlinemicrofiche.com/cycleparts/showmodel.asp?Type=13&make=suzukidb&a=314&b=36&c=0-SUSPENSION---REAR-SWING-ARM-W/-SHOCK
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: Brap on March 23, 2013, 03:27:41 AM
My god, Thanks! You're a life saver. I drove all over today looking for them  ;)
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: chump6784 on March 23, 2013, 05:28:53 AM
pm sent
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: JasonYuke on March 23, 2013, 12:34:24 PM
Looks really nice man.  I was thinking of a complete rebuild of mine this winter. 

Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: Brap on March 24, 2013, 12:56:48 AM
pm sent

Huge thanks!
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: Brap on March 24, 2013, 12:58:05 AM
I'm gonna be doing some harescrambles this summer! I'm so excited! My first races, I'm super pumped as RC would say  ;D
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: SwapperMX on March 28, 2013, 11:49:39 AM
What do they do anyways when they "rebuild" your shock? I bought my 125 from a kid who weighed probably 200-250 (just guessing) and I am 150 pounds. He sent the suspension when he owned it to pro action, and now I own the bike and the suspension is really stiff for my weight. What should I do?

There is a lot than can be changed, but you would need it pulled apart to tell what had been done. Spring rates and compression and rebound shim stacks are the main focus of a revalve. Just twist that throttle harder and the shock will work better
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: Brap on April 01, 2013, 03:33:14 AM
Gonna send my shock to Race Tech and rebuild the forks myself, Anyone know the usual turn around on a shock being rebuilt?
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: _X_ on April 01, 2013, 10:07:23 AM
three to four days.
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: Chrisshire on April 01, 2013, 11:27:20 AM
with all the time , money and effort you have put in i would be getting them to do the forks as well
can be a messy shit job and you can make mistakes
not saying you cant do it or that it cant be done though, just my 2c
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: Rm125guy on April 01, 2013, 08:44:24 PM
I setup my suspension with the sag and rebound dampening and everything, its awesome now!
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: Stusmoke on April 01, 2013, 11:45:28 PM
with all the time , money and effort you have put in i would be getting them to do the forks as well
can be a messy shit job and you can make mistakes
not saying you cant do it or that it cant be done though, just my 2c

This. Theres not much point in getting your shock all mickied up if you leave your forks in stock trim. Why? Cos one end will be differently valved to the other resulting in an unbalance.
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: Brap on April 02, 2013, 07:01:14 AM
I'm just having it rebuilt, And i have a buddy who rebuilds forks who's gonna help me
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: Stusmoke on April 02, 2013, 09:11:28 AM
Sory I thought I read something about a revavle, my bad.
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: Brap on April 03, 2013, 01:16:22 AM
Update video in the first post  :P
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: ford832 on April 03, 2013, 01:57:38 AM
Sweet ride brap.There is a thread goin on on Vital right now and the 05 RM250 has many votes as the best pure MX bike ever built.It's hard to disagree. 8)

http://www.vitalmx.com/forums/Moto-Related,20/The-Best-Bike-A-Single-Manufacturer-Has-Ever-Made,1253058
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: Brap on April 03, 2013, 02:21:38 AM
I've only ridden a handful of bikes but from what I've experienced the 2005 RM250 is an amazing bike and I'll be damned if I ever sell it  ;D
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: Brap on April 11, 2013, 04:01:19 AM
Any ideas anyone? this is the reason why i got her all fixed up

Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: Stusmoke on April 11, 2013, 12:38:02 PM
Gas isn't leaking is it? Clickers aren't dialed all the way out? Uber soft shock spring?
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: SwapperMX on April 11, 2013, 01:46:55 PM
Definitely something drastically wrong. Shock seal for sure. I would be very surprised if that shock had any oil or nitrogen in it.
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: Brap on April 11, 2013, 05:46:51 PM
It leaked a great bit of oil, Whats the usual cost to have this fixed?
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: SwapperMX on April 12, 2013, 01:48:56 AM
Should only be a couple of hundred dollars to overhaul that shock brap.
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: Brap on April 25, 2013, 05:57:54 PM
Little update!

Got the shock back yesterday, she's all together just need to break a few links off the chain.
I get the forks today, I also need a clutch lever and to get some oil while i'm at the shop. Pretty pumped my only dislike is how far over the R304 shorty sits over the tire, its really gonna get scratched up after the first ride.
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: cnrcpla on April 25, 2013, 06:34:03 PM
Is your subframe bent? If not, you could always put a spacer between the frame and the pipe mount to keep it off the tire.That is if there is enough room to move it over between the plastic. But the worst it will do it scuff up the pipe with rubber. You can literally rub it off with a rag and it's good as new.
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: Brap on April 26, 2013, 06:10:36 PM
Got a call when i woke up this morning. Bad news..... right fork dampener rod needs to be replaced. Its $700 OEM and thats not happening. Can anyone help me track down a set of 2005 rm250 forks i can buy please
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: cnrcpla on April 26, 2013, 06:37:48 PM
Why limit yourself to 05 forks? Find out what their diameter is and see what other forks you can put in the clamps. You could get lucky and find a nice set newer forks, or even a better set up all together.
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: Brap on April 26, 2013, 08:37:42 PM
There 54.8 top and 58.3 on bottom, can you help me find some?
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: Stusmoke on April 26, 2013, 10:02:35 PM
Got a call when i woke up this morning. Bad news..... right fork dampener rod needs to be replaced. Its $700 OEM and thats not happening. Can anyone help me track down a set of 2005 rm250 forks i can buy please

ARRRGHHH!!! That sucks man, I feel for you. Hope you find a good solution soon.
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: Brap on April 26, 2013, 10:22:33 PM
I've spent the last 6 hours on google trying to find a set of 2005 RM250 forks but i can't catch a break...If anyone could point me in the right direction it'd be great  :'(
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: Stusmoke on April 26, 2013, 10:29:32 PM
Wreckers are your best friends for Genuine parts. Grab your phonebook, and look for motorcycle wreckers in your area. They've saved my bacon plenty of times. You guys work on that, I think I'm gonna go get some real bacon cos its made me want some now :D
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: Brap on April 28, 2013, 12:00:28 AM
Update video! Good news!  :P
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: 2T Institute on April 28, 2013, 12:06:30 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2007-07-Suzuki-RMZ450-RMZ-450-Front-Forks-Legs-Triple-Clamps-Guards-/230969307562?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item35c6d7f1aa&vxp=mtr

Just swap them to RMZ forks.
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: Brap on April 28, 2013, 12:08:20 AM
Bike sits super high now, I'm tippy toeing again  :o
Title: 2005 RM250 Build
Post by: Brap on April 30, 2013, 04:11:21 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lW6IJZYPhtI&feature=youtu.be