Post by: msambuco on July 30, 2012, 07:31:00 PM
Post by: twosmoke595 on July 30, 2012, 07:35:48 PM
suspension revalve for you, custom plastic/graphics/engine rebuild/scalvini pipe and silencer/etc
also 13's are the same as the 12's
Post by: TMKIWI on July 30, 2012, 10:07:01 PM
The bike will be way faster with BNG.
Post by: scotty dog on July 30, 2012, 10:35:35 PM
I would go with the 13'.What he said
The bike will be way faster with BNG.
Post by: Stusmoke on July 30, 2012, 10:47:23 PM
I would go with the 13'.
The bike will be way faster with BNG.
Hahaha What he said again.
On a serious note, do what Twosmoke said. I think the last update on the YZ EXCLUDING bng was a kickstarter or something and that was on the 07, it was something extremely minor anyway. Don't quote me there though. I'd get a 2005 at a cheap as chips price and mod it out like nothing else. Wish I could
Post by: twosmoke595 on July 30, 2012, 10:47:53 PM
Post by: motoman356 on July 30, 2012, 11:35:13 PM
the last major changes were 06 and it received minor changes for a few years. i think we need to do a forum dedicated to explaining bikes and the changes over the years.
Post by: Watson777 on July 30, 2012, 11:47:13 PM
Post by: nom de guerre on July 31, 2012, 12:18:19 AM
if you're going to buy a 13' anything buy a ktm 125 or 150
You should be ashamed Ethan..... How the Husqvarna?! Not only do you get the 125, you get the whole 144 kit for free...
Post by: twosmoke595 on July 31, 2012, 01:05:28 AM
if you're going to buy a 13' anything buy a ktm 125 or 150
You should be ashamed Ethan..... How the Husqvarna?! Not only do you get the 125, you get the whole 144 kit for free...
haha OR that
Post by: Jeram on July 31, 2012, 01:54:10 AM
bushes and bearings will all need replacing: swing arm bushes, bearings and seals, wheel bearings, head stock bearings, etc
full engine rebuild: piston, rod, bearings, seals, gaskets, oil, coolant
new pipe if its damaged
re pack the silencer
new air filter
new tires
potentially new discs and pads and brake fluid
2500 for a second hand bike plus a 1500+ for the above (parts only), so that $4600 brand new 06 yz is seeming rather cheap.
Post by: xandyx on July 31, 2012, 02:44:58 AM
If you search for a while you'll see very abused bikes and some very clean. We use to see some adverts of stunning bikes for sale here on TSM.
The last big improvement that yz received was the SSS suspension in 06, i guess, besides that, only minor upgrades that don't worth spending money on the latest year model.
Search for a clean used bike, try to deal a good price and you'll keep some money to adjust the bike to your riding style!
Let us know when you get the bike!!
Post by: msambuco on July 31, 2012, 03:44:06 AM
I like how everyone at TSM gets pumped up about anyone getting a 125. I noticed this on other threads about 125's. The two most fun bikes to ride are over powered 500's and 125's. My 250 is middle of the road. Truth is only one can be ridden wide open and what a feeling that is. Any of you younger guys that race should at least have one to train on.
Post by: TMKIWI on July 31, 2012, 06:48:53 AM
i think we need to do a forum dedicated to explaining bikes and the changes over the years.
Thats a great idea.
You volunteering to start it off.
Post by: twosmoke595 on July 31, 2012, 07:23:14 AM
i think we need to do a forum dedicated to explaining bikes and the changes over the years.
Thats a great idea.
You volunteering to start it off.
ive been thinking about doing this for a while
doing each model, say go back to 2000 and each year say what changed, which bike in the class won the shootout, and why each one got what place in the shootout, and do that for each year up until 2013, and keep updating it
Post by: teampryor on July 31, 2012, 02:53:58 PM
Our next Bike we purchased new from Capitol Cycle in Macon Georgia for $5500 with no sales tax because we live out of state. This was the best deal we found within 500 miles for a new 11' model. Point is, its all the little things that you have to fix with any used bike that add up. When someone says they have a clean 08 model with 10 hours on it, you can pretty much count on it having a 100 hours on it with poor maintenance to boot. Buy the new bike. Long term you Will save money. IMHO
Post by: chump6784 on July 31, 2012, 09:42:02 PM
Agree with above posts about buying new. When you throw in new parts to bring an old one up to scratch PLUS the time to do it the cost adds up. If you have lots of spare time than working on a bike might not matter much but i have no spare time so i really dont want to work on bikes when i could be doing something else
Post by: msambuco on August 02, 2012, 03:01:27 AM
Post by: TMKIWI on August 02, 2012, 03:15:47 AM
1 thing I don't like about Yamaha's is the blue.
Please do a retro white/Red or yellow/black colour scheme.
Then I will forgive you.
Post by: msambuco on August 02, 2012, 03:56:28 AM
Post by: Stusmoke on August 02, 2012, 09:11:49 AM
So many better things to spend money on besides plastic. Love Yamaha yellow but it will stay blue. 144 kit or Factory Connection are the only upgrades (other than the minor usual ones) this bike will ever see. Heres a good question, What's the best pipe for it? Whatever it is it will not get it until I squish the stocker. Which may not take too long.
I've heard nothing but rave reviews for the FMF SST pipe. And Charles said something a while ago about a couple of his riders crushing 2 pro circuit pipes in a race day or words to that effect. FMF Looks great, easy to maintain and will really light a fire under the top ends arse. Gives a good midrange boost too but I've heard it said that the midrange boost can vary between bikes. Some guys reckon it blew them away others said it decent but nothing special. Regardless I'd go with the FMF SST, in fact I will be doing so soon enough
Post by: factoryX on August 02, 2012, 01:05:32 PM
nope. nothing new and not worth the higher price youd pay. the bike has had BNG since....like 08?
the last major changes were 06 and it received minor changes for a few years. i think we need to do a forum dedicated to explaining bikes and the changes over the years.
Nah, in 2011 they detuned the bikes!
Post by: motoxr377 on August 02, 2012, 04:21:34 PM
So many better things to spend money on besides plastic. Love Yamaha yellow but it will stay blue. 144 kit or Factory Connection are the only upgrades (other than the minor usual ones) this bike will ever see. Heres a good question, What's the best pipe for it? Whatever it is it will not get it until I squish the stocker. Which may not take too long.
I've heard nothing but rave reviews for the FMF SST pipe. And Charles said something a while ago about a couple of his riders crushing 2 pro circuit pipes in a race day or words to that effect. FMF Looks great, easy to maintain and will really light a fire under the top ends arse. Gives a good midrange boost too but I've heard it said that the midrange boost can vary between bikes. Some guys reckon it blew them away others said it decent but nothing special. Regardless I'd go with the FMF SST, in fact I will be doing so soon enough
Eric Gorr has said before the SST on a 144 causes the engine to run too hot due to the very steep angle on the rear cone. Be weary as many on Thumpertalk have melted a piston due to the SST.
Post by: motoman356 on August 02, 2012, 07:28:39 PM
only problem with getting a used bike for cheaper is that it has had the shit canned out of it for 6 years.
bushes and bearings will all need replacing: swing arm bushes, bearings and seals, wheel bearings, head stock bearings, etc
full engine rebuild: piston, rod, bearings, seals, gaskets, oil, coolant
new pipe if its damaged
re pack the silencer
new air filter
new tires
potentially new discs and pads and brake fluid
2500 for a second hand bike plus a 1500+ for the above (parts only), so that $4600 brand new 06 yz is seeming rather cheap.
now that just isnt quite the case. I picked up an 04 rm125 last year for a 1000. it had been sitting in storage for a few years, and the bike was race ready with fmf exhaust, vforce, and ported/polish motor. im into it total for around 1700 cuz i put on new rubber, custom graphics, seat cover, bars and a few other things. and as far a yz125 goes you can easily find an 05/06 from 1500 to 2000 if not less sometimes
Post by: motoman356 on August 02, 2012, 07:33:19 PM
i think we need to do a forum dedicated to explaining bikes and the changes over the years.
Thats a great idea.
You volunteering to start it off.
ive been thinking about doing this for a while
doing each model, say go back to 2000 and each year say what changed, which bike in the class won the shootout, and why each one got what place in the shootout, and do that for each year up until 2013, and keep updating it
i wouldnt mind adding to help it. im thinking the easiest way would be to find the online articles that mags have done. only downside is on dirtrider ive found they only go back as far as 03 and MXA about as far also. but that would help people anyways. and if people have old mags with the shootouts they can do scans or whatever
Post by: Stusmoke on August 03, 2012, 12:27:07 AM
So many better things to spend money on besides plastic. Love Yamaha yellow but it will stay blue. 144 kit or Factory Connection are the only upgrades (other than the minor usual ones) this bike will ever see. Heres a good question, What's the best pipe for it? Whatever it is it will not get it until I squish the stocker. Which may not take too long.
I've heard nothing but rave reviews for the FMF SST pipe. And Charles said something a while ago about a couple of his riders crushing 2 pro circuit pipes in a race day or words to that effect. FMF Looks great, easy to maintain and will really light a fire under the top ends arse. Gives a good midrange boost too but I've heard it said that the midrange boost can vary between bikes. Some guys reckon it blew them away others said it decent but nothing special. Regardless I'd go with the FMF SST, in fact I will be doing so soon enough
Eric Gorr has said before the SST on a 144 causes the engine to run too hot due to the very steep angle on the rear cone. Be weary as many on Thumpertalk have melted a piston due to the SST.
Really? I'll have to take a look at that. And its not a jetting problem? I did notice when I looked a the picture the SST did kinda look like it was 20 years out of place it was that steep. I'll email FMF before I make my choice see what they have to say about it. Thanks for that mate