Post by: Recovered on May 12, 2012, 02:30:16 AM
Quarter throttle, leaps so far out ahead of a 2012 KX450F its not even funny, uphill.
Can't keep yourself far enough forward on the bike. Can't pull yourself forward with the bars because it'll just flip over backwards. So you have to pull yourself forward with your thighs. It's a weird motion. But if you ride the bike with your ass on the gas cap, and make sure you are pointed in the right direction before you hammer it, it is do-able. if you are slightly off axis, slightly crossrutted, and grab a handful, hope you brought a spare change of underoos.
I laughed the whole way around the track, in sheer terror and utter disbelief of what an 80hp motocross bike feels like. Makes a 250 feel like a spirited bicycle.
The best part, GOPro chase cam footage exists, and apparently, I about knocked the gopro off the top of the guys head with roost from 40 feet back coming out of a corner.
I'm still shaking. Nightmares. Cold sweats. Post traumatic stress disorder. That idling. pop pop pop pop pop pop. Twist right wrist, dislocate left shoulder.
Post by: cnrcpla on May 12, 2012, 02:33:54 AM
Post by: Recovered on May 12, 2012, 02:47:33 AM
Post by: velaride on May 12, 2012, 06:28:25 AM
Post by: metal_miracle on May 12, 2012, 08:50:29 AM
But what was done to get 80hp out of it?
Post by: hooky319 on May 12, 2012, 09:24:12 AM
Post by: Jeram on May 12, 2012, 09:46:03 AM
Post by: 2T Institute on May 12, 2012, 10:13:13 AM
about 20 years ago dave thorpes world championship winning factory hrc cr 500 was 65hp, how'd you get 80?
Inflation, GFC and the internet shopping.
Post by: Jeram on May 12, 2012, 02:22:31 PM
about 20 years ago dave thorpes world championship winning factory hrc cr 500 was 65hp, how'd you get 80?
Inflation, GFC and the internet shopping.
ahh yes, you are wise.
I forgot to add 2.6% p/a to the 1990 values numbers. silly me
Post by: citabjockey on May 12, 2012, 02:52:30 PM
Post by: Jeram on May 12, 2012, 03:11:33 PM
even with 60rwhp it would have gone exactly as fast as he said it did.
Post by: Marco810 on May 12, 2012, 03:19:23 PM
80hp can happen but its going to need a custom pipe to match its extremely peaking porting profile, among other mods
Post by: MetalMike1982 on May 12, 2012, 04:44:29 PM
Post by: SachsGS on May 12, 2012, 08:01:40 PM
Post by: factoryX on May 12, 2012, 08:20:22 PM
Post by: 2T Institute on May 12, 2012, 10:10:32 PM
HRC riders were de-tuning the 500 to make them ridable back in the mid 90's.
Post by: Recovered on May 12, 2012, 10:40:41 PM
You can sit o the internet and argue about it until your ****ing balls fall off though, dudes. I don't care. I rode it, and I can tell you it was more than 65hp, and virtually unridable. That is why I ased the owner, to which I got the response "It dyno'd close to 80." So, If you REALLY want to get out the calculator and figure out crank hp, that number would be over 80. I burned both my boots on both side of the pipe and bruised both my inner thighs from squeezing the tank so hard to keep from flying off the back of the bike in 3rd gear. My eyes hurt when I got done, and I realized it was from not blinking.
Post by: twosmoke595 on May 12, 2012, 10:56:50 PM
It was a 95 CR. It was 1.25 over, ported to hell, among other things, and dyno'd at the wheel at just under 80.
You can sit o the internet and argue about it until your ****ing balls fall off though, dudes. I don't care. I rode it, and I can tell you it was more than 65hp, and virtually unridable. That is why I ased the owner, to which I got the response "It dyno'd close to 80." So, If you REALLY want to get out the calculator and figure out crank hp, that number would be over 80. I burned both my boots on both side of the pipe and bruised both my inner thighs from squeezing the tank so hard to keep from flying off the back of the bike in 3rd gear. My eyes hurt when I got done, and I realized it was from not blinking.
i cant imagine that lol
i would be very surprised if a 500 4 stroke could get 80 horsepower, and that 500 2 stroke would last 10X as long i would bet
Post by: factoryX on May 13, 2012, 01:35:54 AM
90hp dream on. To get to approach 80hp you need to be on methanol with 44mm carburetor, then the bike is not 'fast' at all they only go well on dirt track/sand/road racing with certifiable nutcases riding.
HRC riders were de-tuning the 500 to make them ridable back in the mid 90's.
You mad bro?
All kidding aside, I wasted a small chunk of my teenager years on trike/quad forums where drag racing is being done. Ever heard of a Puma motor? its a 400cc cylinder mated to a atc/trx250r cases. Here is a dyno sheet of one running on Methanol..With the counter balancer..
Tell me again that cr500's can't pull off 90hp..
Post by: cnrcpla on May 13, 2012, 02:22:00 AM
I mean that would be a bit of a handful on the track and almost impossible to ride in tight woods, but I guess it is nice to say you "tamed" the beast hahaha
Post by: citabjockey on May 13, 2012, 05:14:40 AM
just under 80HP? I don't see why not
Someone says 80HP and you picture riding it tight woods? Wow, your imagination goes places mine cannot contemplate!
Riding on a breathed on CR500 -- it does kinda sound like something to put on one's bucket list!
Post by: factoryX on May 13, 2012, 05:19:26 AM
Post by: Jeram on May 13, 2012, 07:27:58 AM
90hp dream on. To get to approach 80hp you need to be on methanol with 44mm carburetor, then the bike is not 'fast' at all they only go well on dirt track/sand/road racing with certifiable nutcases riding.
HRC riders were de-tuning the 500 to make them ridable back in the mid 90's.
You mad bro?
All kidding aside, I wasted a small chunk of my teenager years on trike/quad forums where drag racing is being done. Ever heard of a Puma motor? its a 400cc cylinder mated to a atc/trx250r cases. Here is a dyno sheet of one running on Methanol..With the counter balancer.
Tell me again that cr500's can't pull off 90hp..
There is a huge difference between a stock ported cylinder and a big dollar CR500 LIGER cylinder (Not PUMA, the LIGER is the CR cylinder made by CPindustries, who also make the PUMA).
With a 660cc liger cylinder, a completely unusable 100hp is possible on methanol.
But compared to this cylinder which resembles a scaled up 7 port GP125 cylinder, the standard CR cylinder looks primitive in comparison.
No amount of porting on a stock CR500 cylinder will get it anywhere near one of those liger cylinders. Thats why they make the LIGER cylinder from scratch, not a simple core swap port job.
Post by: Jeram on May 13, 2012, 07:36:40 AM
90hp dream on. To get to approach 80hp you need to be on methanol with 44mm carburetor, then the bike is not 'fast' at all they only go well on dirt track/sand/road racing with certifiable nutcases riding.
HRC riders were de-tuning the 500 to make them ridable back in the mid 90's.
You mad bro?
Tell me again that cr500's can't pull off 90hp..
The only CR to get close to 90hp with a stock cylinder (at the crank) was Dr Robert Tullie, he was the head of development at Renault F1 and the creator of the Tul-aris racer.
he build a bike called the Tul-da, a CR500 road racer.
But Ill tell you now this bike is in a whole different league
"Close to 80" as said by some bloke could have meant 75hp, and that 75hp could have been on a 'happy dyno' bringing it down to a more realistic 70hp. Which by all accounts is still a ****ing powerful bike.
Post by: cnrcpla on May 13, 2012, 12:14:47 PM
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Someone says 80HP and you picture riding it tight woods? Wow, your imagination goes places mine cannot contemplate!I would like to try it in the woods, granted I doubt I could keep it on two wheels, or even on the actual trail for that matter
Post by: Recovered on May 13, 2012, 12:27:02 PM
Post by: Recovered on May 13, 2012, 12:29:00 PM
QuoteSomeone says 80HP and you picture riding it tight woods? Wow, your imagination goes places mine cannot contemplate!I would like to try it in the woods, granted I doubt I could keep it on two wheels, or even on the actual trail for that matter
I over shot a couple corners and just stayed in the throttle to make it look like I was trying for an "outside" line. Don;t think I had anyone fooled though.
Post by: Recovered on May 13, 2012, 12:29:51 PM
90hp dream on. To get to approach 80hp you need to be on methanol with 44mm carburetor, then the bike is not 'fast' at all they only go well on dirt track/sand/road racing with certifiable nutcases riding.
HRC riders were de-tuning the 500 to make them ridable back in the mid 90's.
You mad bro?
Tell me again that cr500's can't pull off 90hp..
The only CR to get close to 90hp with a stock cylinder (at the crank) was Dr Robert Tullie, he was the head of development at Renault F1 and the creator of the Tul-aris racer.
he build a bike called the Tul-da, a CR500 road racer.
But Ill tell you now this bike is in a whole different league
"Close to 80" as said by some bloke could have meant 75hp, and that 75hp could have been on a 'happy dyno' bringing it down to a more realistic 70hp. Which by all accounts is still a ****ing powerful bike.
You just have it all figured out don't you.
Post by: eprovenzano on May 13, 2012, 02:21:44 PM
QuoteSomeone says 80HP and you picture riding it tight woods? Wow, your imagination goes places mine cannot contemplate!I would like to try it in the woods, granted I doubt I could keep it on two wheels, or even on the actual trail for that matter
I over shot a couple corners and just stayed in the throttle to make it look like I was trying for an "outside" line. Don;t think I had anyone fooled though.
No matter the actual HP... (Who really cares) that is still one fire breathing, underoo changing machine... My question is how were the vibs of the big bore... although I bet you were gripping the bars so tight it was hard to notice.
I bet they could hear you laughing (or was that crying in shear terror) as you went around the track.
Post by: Recovered on May 13, 2012, 02:29:37 PM
Post by: citabjockey on May 13, 2012, 03:00:39 PM
Well...
Post by: Jeram on May 13, 2012, 11:11:26 PM
You just have it all figured out don't you.
If you spent as much time as I do each week developing big bore two strokes singles into road racing engines, you would too
Post by: Recovered on May 14, 2012, 12:00:32 AM
You just have it all figured out don't you.
If you spent as much time as I do each week developing big bore two strokes singles into road racing engines, you would too
uh oh, check this guy out...
Post by: Stusmoke on May 14, 2012, 09:10:48 AM
Post by: 2T Institute on May 14, 2012, 11:22:43 AM
You mad bro?
All kidding aside, I wasted a small chunk of my teenager years on trike/quad forums where drag racing is being done. Ever heard of a Puma motor? its a 400cc cylinder mated to a atc/trx250r cases. Here is a dyno sheet of one running on Methanol..With the counter balancer..
Tell me again that cr500's can't pull off 90hp..
A CR 500 with a CR500 cylinder and a CR500 pipe won't make 90HP or 80HP. Happy.
I know CPI and know a Puma cylinder is nothing like a TRX cylinder. The graph is set to STD correction factor which would add about 5 HP on that peak figure. Yes methanol and the out of frame Shearer pipes don't forget.
Post by: Recovered on May 14, 2012, 12:30:46 PM
Post by: Jeram on May 14, 2012, 01:35:00 PM
hows your 80hp RGV250 going bud?
Post by: Recovered on May 14, 2012, 02:40:50 PM
Try this one out.
www.vitalmx.com
You'll fit in, "bud".
Post by: Jeram on May 15, 2012, 02:27:54 AM
Are you just an internet forum **** talker? We don't do that here..
Try this one out.
I thought we had already established in my first post that I was calling you a bull**** artist? no?
so by, "we dont do that here" you mean everyone except you?
I think Ill leave it at that.
Post by: 2T Institute on May 15, 2012, 02:47:54 AM
i'll make sure the owner, engine builder, and the rider are all informed they are wrong, because the internet said so.
Please do because that naughty 'internet' is full of sub 60hp CR500(and a few KX500's) dyno graphs and tired 48hp examples
so to get to 80hp you just need a mere 20HP or 33% more output. Was a de comp fitted?
Post by: citabjockey on May 15, 2012, 04:36:40 AM
Who cares what some stupid number pops up on a dyno. Again, WHO CARES? What got me interested in this thread was a ride description on a overpowered two stroke dirt bike. THAT is the fun stuff. Really. Truly. Stop the sillyness ASAP.
Ok?
There. THAT feels better.
Now, who else has a CR500 arm-stretching, sphincter-compressing, front-fender-obscuring-sky story?
Post by: Brap on May 15, 2012, 04:39:18 AM
Post by: citabjockey on May 15, 2012, 06:10:46 AM
I just got my 2005 RM250 and i thought that was bad...imagine a cr500
Post by: Stusmoke on May 15, 2012, 07:32:18 AM
Post by: cnrcpla on May 15, 2012, 12:40:13 PM
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Now, who else has a CR500 arm-stretching, sphincter-compressing, front-fender-obscuring-sky story?That made me laugh in the middle of class hahaha
Post by: scotty dog on May 15, 2012, 01:17:42 PM
Ok kiddies, KNOCK IT OFF.Thank you
Who cares what some stupid number pops up on a dyno. Again, WHO CARES?
Post by: Recovered on May 15, 2012, 01:33:36 PM
mmmK.
Post by: citabjockey on May 15, 2012, 02:57:13 PM
Post by: Recovered on May 15, 2012, 03:45:17 PM
Oh my god. stop it! tell us more about riding it!
Weak, anemic, 48hp clapper.
Post by: Sapper on May 15, 2012, 03:56:46 PM
Post by: eprovenzano on May 15, 2012, 04:00:09 PM
The hair on my legs usually vibrates off im shaking that much after I get off my YZ250, i think i'd need to get 3 extra sizes in pants for all the layers of undies i'd need
Just throw on some Depends (adult diapers), and your good to go... just remember to bring a few extra pairs...
I love it when a stroker rider jumps on my 300... It scares the crap out of them, I'd probably have the same reaction jumping on a 500... But I'd be laughing (or screaming in terror) the whole time.
Post by: Recovered on May 15, 2012, 04:04:14 PM
Post by: dogger315 on May 15, 2012, 04:15:31 PM
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who else has a CR500 arm-stretching, sphincter-compressing, front-fender-obscuring-sky story?I've put in quite a few laps on an Aluminum framed version of the CR500 lately. It doesn't make 80 hp,
more like 65, but it's a combination hoot and terror to ride
The first thing I discovered after a couple of trips over the berm and into the weeds, tires, or whatever
was waiting outside the track was I needed better brakes. The bike is deceptively fast. Mine doesn't
vibrate anymore than a 250 and the power is concentrated in the 4000 to 6000 rpm range so there
isn't much aural or visceral input as to your speed except those damn corners keep coming up faster
than you expect
I also learned very early on you better be riding the gas cap when you twist the throttle. The combination
of high horsepower, light weight and short wheelbase makes for a "sporty" ride, in fact, I spend most of
my time trying to keep the front wheel somewhere near the ground
If I ever get any GoPro footage, I'll have to turn the sound off because it would spoil the effect if all you
can hear is me screaming like a girl everytime I roll on the power.
I guess the best way to describe riding a stout CR500 engine in a bike that weighs the same as a CRF250;
It's a terrifying blast, and like any adrenaline junkie, I can't wait to do it again
dogger
Post by: Recovered on May 15, 2012, 05:01:40 PM
I want a 500AF badly. probably my next bike. i'll find some unfinished basketcase somewhere and make it all nice-like.
Post by: metal_miracle on May 15, 2012, 05:27:17 PM
yet to ride hard pack. gone be fun :-)
thats why it interesting what mode was done to it
Post by: citabjockey on May 15, 2012, 05:51:11 PM
Post by: Brap on May 16, 2012, 12:44:50 PM
Congrats on the RM! Whats it like?I just got my 2005 RM250 and i thought that was bad...imagine a cr500
its getting better, Got it for $1400 its pretty clean, Im ridding it in 2 days, gonna get used to the power and break it in, has like 40 minutes on the top end....SCORE
I'm so excited
Post by: Jeram on May 16, 2012, 01:40:03 PM
This will throw a monkey wrench into the internet motocross afficanado's theory. I have ridden a 60hp CR500. And I have ridden this bike. Like I said in my first post, I immediately jumped off the bike and questioned the guy because the power differential between the two was...well....worth questioning, to which I got the response, "it dyno'd at close to 80hp." followed by the list of mods, in conjunction with the fact that it was jetted to perfection.
ahh I cant help myself.
what was the list?
did the list of mods include a 'port and polish' and a pro circuit pipe?
PS: notice how the last CR you rode was exactly 60hp? and this one is 80hp? and your RGV on the RGV forum was exactly 80hp too?
what are the chances of all those hp numbers being so nice and rounded............. UP to the nearest 10!
Post by: Recovered on May 16, 2012, 01:48:37 PM
Post by: Brap on May 16, 2012, 01:55:18 PM
This will throw a monkey wrench into the internet motocross afficanado's theory. I have ridden a 60hp CR500. And I have ridden this bike. Like I said in my first post, I immediately jumped off the bike and questioned the guy because the power differential between the two was...well....worth questioning, to which I got the response, "it dyno'd at close to 80hp." followed by the list of mods, in conjunction with the fact that it was jetted to perfection.
ahh I cant help myself.
what was the list?
did the list of mods include a 'port and polish' and a pro circuit pipe?
PS: notice how the last CR you rode was exactly 60hp? and this one is 80hp? and your RGV on the RGV forum was exactly 80hp too?
what are the chances of all those hp numbers being so nice and rounded............. UP to the nearest 10!
Don't be like that.. -_-
Post by: citabjockey on May 16, 2012, 02:39:33 PM
Post by: Premixed on May 16, 2012, 02:49:08 PM
Post by: yota on May 16, 2012, 04:24:48 PM
Post by: metal_miracle on May 16, 2012, 05:13:45 PM
and you kind of want something that backs it up.
It`s easy to claim hp thats in my opinion why you get skeptical posts.. (That can be seen as negative)
Post by: twosmoke595 on May 16, 2012, 05:27:43 PM
Post by: eprovenzano on May 16, 2012, 05:40:47 PM
Post by: cnrcpla on May 16, 2012, 05:43:15 PM
The cr5 in the 125 chassis is cool
Post by: Brap on May 16, 2012, 05:49:18 PM
I have a 94 CR5 in an 03 CR125 chassis. It is mildly ported, head shaved, air striker carb, Rad Valve, airbox vents added and 2007 CR125 rubber boot between airbox and intake. I have seen dyno charts of bikes with similar mods at 63hp. I don't want anymore than that. If I wasn't riding in sand all the time I would have probably crippled myself by now.
How do you kick that thing? look at that kickstart
Post by: citabjockey on May 16, 2012, 07:45:42 PM
Post by: yota on May 16, 2012, 09:25:46 PM
Yota.. love the bike. That back tire looks huge... Is the rim std with or wider, and what size tire is that... I bet you can dig ditches with that thing
standard 2.15 wheel with a 120 tire but it's a sand tire.
Post by: yota on May 16, 2012, 09:29:43 PM
I have a 94 CR5 in an 03 CR125 chassis. It is mildly ported, head shaved, air striker carb, Rad Valve, airbox vents added and 2007 CR125 rubber boot between airbox and intake. I have seen dyno charts of bikes with similar mods at 63hp. I don't want anymore than that. If I wasn't riding in sand all the time I would have probably crippled myself by now.
How do you kick that thing? look at that kickstart
that's the stock CR5 kicker. it actually starts pretty easy, more so if I had any ass to kick it with but I'm pretty small and it's on a new bore. starts 1st or 2nd kick cold with the proper drill and usually 1 kick warm. the warm drill is to find tdc, push down just past, let it back up and kick thru the stroke, not a jab.
Post by: yota on May 16, 2012, 09:46:06 PM
So Yota, how about a ride report? How long have you had that monster? You race it?
I put it together in dec 08 thru jan 09. had a guy in cali do the frame fabrication and put the rest together as I wanted it. no racing, off road only. I'm 60 in a few months and haven't had the urge to race in years. used to though.
Post by: Jeram on May 16, 2012, 10:06:48 PM
The fact of the matter is, no one can make a thread on this board without Jeram scrutinizing it, and this guy is scrutinizing not only a bike I have ridden but another one of my own bikes on a completely unrelated message board. The guy is a troll that transcends multiple message boards. It never fails, that every board has one and in this case, 2 boards have the same one in common.
Im on about 10 forums but choose to only scruitnise in 2, unfortunately some of the content on two of these forums have members who make outrageous claims, conjure up conspiracies about just about anything, and create speculation. In my mind it needs scruitinizing, otherwise any other passers by will think this is a tin foil hat zone.
now, Im actually going now (again haha). so if youve got anything else to say thats what the PM button is for.
Post by: twosmoke595 on May 16, 2012, 10:34:45 PM
The fact of the matter is, no one can make a thread on this board without Jeram scrutinizing it, and this guy is scrutinizing not only a bike I have ridden but another one of my own bikes on a completely unrelated message board. The guy is a troll that transcends multiple message boards. It never fails, that every board has one and in this case, 2 boards have the same one in common.
Im on about 10 forums but choose to only scruitnise in 2, unfortunately some of the content on two of these forums have members who make outrageous claims, conjure up conspiracies about just about anything, and create speculation. In my mind it needs scruitinizing, otherwise any other passers by will think this is a tin foil hat zone.
now, Im actually going now (again haha). so if youve got anything else to say thats what the PM button is for.
Did you not see this?
"whether or not the statement is true, please stop the arguing, this board doesn't need that sort of thing"
please take a chill pill, there is no need to argue over something as trivial as this, if it continues there will consequences
Post by: Stusmoke on May 17, 2012, 12:43:33 PM
The fact of the matter is, no one can make a thread on this board without Jeram scrutinizing it, and this guy is scrutinizing not only a bike I have ridden but another one of my own bikes on a completely unrelated message board. The guy is a troll that transcends multiple message boards. It never fails, that every board has one and in this case, 2 boards have the same one in common.
Im on about 10 forums but choose to only scruitnise in 2, unfortunately some of the content on two of these forums have members who make outrageous claims, conjure up conspiracies about just about anything, and create speculation. In my mind it needs scruitinizing, otherwise any other passers by will think this is a tin foil hat zone.
now, Im actually going now (again haha). so if youve got anything else to say thats what the PM button is for.
Im not arguing in the slightest.... but Jeram, you really do like men
Post by: scotty dog on May 17, 2012, 12:52:51 PM
Post by: Recovered on May 17, 2012, 03:28:37 PM
The fact of the matter is, no one can make a thread on this board without Jeram scrutinizing it, and this guy is scrutinizing not only a bike I have ridden but another one of my own bikes on a completely unrelated message board. The guy is a troll that transcends multiple message boards. It never fails, that every board has one and in this case, 2 boards have the same one in common.
Im on about 10 forums but choose to only scruitnise in 2, unfortunately some of the content on two of these forums have members who make outrageous claims, conjure up conspiracies about just about anything, and create speculation. In my mind it needs scruitinizing, otherwise any other passers by will think this is a tin foil hat zone.
now, Im actually going now (again haha). so if youve got anything else to say thats what the PM button is for.
Im not arguing in the slightest.... but Jeram, you really do like men
HA!
they heard me laughing 5 cubicles over.
Post by: TotalNZ on May 17, 2012, 11:04:23 PM
I'm not taking sides but premixed you should know not to claim hp figures without being able to back them up.
And i've read couple of jerams posts and he doesn't seem like a troll to me.
Once again i'm not taking anyones side but i think people should be more careful of there claims and not get all hostile when someone calls them on it.
just my 2cents
Post by: Stusmoke on May 18, 2012, 12:41:52 AM
Post by: cnrcpla on May 18, 2012, 01:26:55 AM
Post by: Stusmoke on May 18, 2012, 01:52:11 AM
Post by: Marco810 on May 18, 2012, 02:53:30 AM
I'm definitely putting 'ride kick ass 500' on my bucket list
Its worth writing on the list for sure. If you think 250's are arm stretching fast, your in for a surprise
Post by: cnrcpla on May 18, 2012, 03:42:40 AM
Post by: TotalNZ on May 18, 2012, 04:27:40 AM
Fuck my sideways who gives a flying fuck about what a dyno graph tells you!!? Swinging your leg over a bike that monstrous would FEEL like 80 horsepower now for the love of god can we have no more references to the horsepower...settle down there stuey, the title of the thread is a reference to HP so what do you expect but talking about it.
Post by: Recovered on May 21, 2012, 04:48:16 PM
I beat you to it buddy haha. I may even seek one out when finish Uni
It's inevitable that I am going to do a 500 motor swap in something. I may just be "different" and do a 550SX KTM motor in a newer KTM. Those were supposed to clown on the Japanese 500s.
look at that jug.
Post by: jar944 on May 21, 2012, 06:22:16 PM
The Honda into a KTM is easy... Easier than the honda into a honda AF swap
Post by: Recovered on May 21, 2012, 06:59:19 PM
Post by: Stusmoke on May 24, 2012, 08:05:35 AM
Post by: cnrcpla on May 24, 2012, 12:19:05 PM
Post by: Recovered on May 24, 2012, 12:24:48 PM
There is only so much power a man can take... a bored out 500? Really? Thats got to be absolutely monstrous.
Yea, the 550 KTM is supposed to trump the two Japanese bikes in brute power, according to MXA way back when. I've never ridden KTM though myself. How about a Maico 700? 100hp.
There is a guy on this website who has one. Imagine what that feels like in 3rd on the pipe. Slightly more bottom end than the space shuttle.
Post by: Stusmoke on May 24, 2012, 12:40:09 PM
Post by: Recovered on May 24, 2012, 02:19:00 PM
Post by: cnrcpla on May 24, 2012, 02:40:29 PM
That would have to be fun.
Post by: Jeram on May 24, 2012, 02:53:29 PM
There is only so much power a man can take... a bored out 500? Really? Thats got to be absolutely monstrous.
Yea, the 550 KTM is supposed to trump the two Japanese bikes in brute power, according to MXA way back when. I've never ridden KTM though myself. How about a Maico 700? 100hp.
There is a guy on this website who has one. Imagine what that feels like in 3rd on the pipe. Slightly more bottom end than the space shuttle.
unfortunately they are peices of junk, a bloke on supermotoaus bought one new and has converted it to supermoto, he has had nothing but trouble for 2 years. mechanical and electrical issues. the ECU cant even time the spark properly it goes on the fritz.
Its sad that Iv never heard of a happy maico 700 customer, a real shame.
100hp?
factory is claiming 82 at the flywheel?
Post by: msmola2002 on May 24, 2012, 03:05:45 PM
it FEELS like 100hp and that is all that matters - amirite?
Post by: SachsGS on May 24, 2012, 03:07:30 PM
I'm surprised to hear about the Maico 700 as I thought the motor was based on well proven Zabel technology.
Post by: cnrcpla on May 24, 2012, 03:09:15 PM
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I've ridden a 550 and it is one of my favorite KTMs,fast yet very smooth.I have never ridden a big bore KTM, but the last thing I thought it would be is smooth
Post by: Recovered on May 24, 2012, 03:16:19 PM
yeah but they are factory claimed and/or dyno hp, and they don't count, silly.
it FEELS like 100hp and that is all that matters - amirite?
IT makes however much power the internet pundits say it makes.
Post by: msmola2002 on May 24, 2012, 03:18:27 PM
Post by: citabjockey on May 24, 2012, 07:48:27 PM
QuoteI've ridden a 550 and it is one of my favorite KTMs,fast yet very smooth.I have never ridden a big bore KTM, but the last thing I thought it would be is smooth
Post by: cnrcpla on May 24, 2012, 09:42:57 PM
Post by: 2T Institute on May 24, 2012, 09:43:21 PM
http://www.atkusa.com/atk/(S(0uj3hend23sg0abeo2kuegux))/documents/2009ATK700620cc.pdf
Post by: Stusmoke on May 25, 2012, 01:21:01 AM
Post by: Recovered on May 25, 2012, 05:06:48 AM
facts have a habit of ruining a good fairytale
http://www.atkusa.com/atk/(S(0uj3hend23sg0abeo2kuegux))/documents/2009ATK700620cc.pdf
There is a member on here, "toby" something who is at around 90whp, lightly breathed on. But I suppose, he is a liar, and it's a 48hp clapper, just like Brian Stewarts CR500.
Post by: Jeram on May 25, 2012, 08:36:15 AM
facts have a habit of ruining a good fairytale
http://www.atkusa.com/atk/(S(0uj3hend23sg0abeo2kuegux))/documents/2009ATK700620cc.pdf
There is a member on here, "toby" something who is at around 90whp, lightly breathed on. But I suppose, he is a liar, and it's a 48hp clapper, just like Brian Stewarts CR500.
unfortunately, when I lightly breathed on my bike, all I got was a misty patch on my tank...
Post by: TMKIWI on May 25, 2012, 09:08:44 AM
I have run out off pop corn now but was a fun read.
Post by: Stusmoke on May 26, 2012, 02:13:53 AM
Post by: cnrcpla on May 26, 2012, 04:34:35 AM
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It was alot more fun being involved thoughHahaha, sometimes. But at least our arguments on here are somewhat civilized
Post by: Stusmoke on May 26, 2012, 11:59:19 AM
Post by: cnrcpla on May 26, 2012, 02:05:01 PM
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Lets all go to vitalmx and start cyber ragingThat would be like a war... 2T vs. 4T riders. It would be interesting considering how most of vital are 12 year old spoiled kids.
Post by: gpnewhouse7 on May 26, 2012, 05:05:35 PM
QuoteLets all go to vitalmx and start cyber ragingThat would be like a war... 2T vs. 4T riders. It would be interesting considering how most of vital are 12 year old spoiled kids.
Yeah even the ones who aren't 12 and don't ride 250fs that are sponsored by their parent overdraft sure as hell act like they are.
Post by: MetalMike1982 on May 26, 2012, 08:30:44 PM
Lets all go to vitalmx and start cyber raging
Already did and they banned the shit out of me
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Post by: Recovered on May 27, 2012, 03:10:32 PM
QuoteLets all go to vitalmx and start cyber ragingThat would be like a war... 2T vs. 4T riders. It would be interesting considering how most of vital are 12 year old spoiled kids.
Yea, its 12 yr old kids, and 50 yr old "insiders". Horrible.