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Two Stroke Motocross Forum => Open Forum => Topic started by: factoryX on January 10, 2011, 10:52:41 AM
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/09/gabrielle-giffords-shooting-rightwing-rhetoric (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jan/09/gabrielle-giffords-shooting-rightwing-rhetoric)
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE7092G220110110 (http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE7092G220110110)
So everyone is so quick to jump ship and blaming Conservatives like Sarah Palin and Glen Beck (I don't even listen to glen beck) on the Arizona shootings, when in fact they had nothing to do with it.
The shooter, Jared Lee Loughner, shot Rep. Gabrielle Giffords's because she didn't vote for Pelosi.
Wait, that doesn't make since, why would a Right wingist shoot a democrat for not voting for Pelosi?
Why would a Right Wingist read The Communist Manifesto, Hitler's Mein Kampf and the left-leaning magazine The New Republic?
Why would a Right Wingist believe in a new currency?
Doesn't add up does it? Now they are using this to try and ban guns again, and ban dangerous Lawmakers? What a joke.
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The guy was a nut.
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LOL
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/arizona-sheriff-blasts-rush-limbaugh-spewing-irresponsible-vitriol/story?id=12583285 (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/arizona-sheriff-blasts-rush-limbaugh-spewing-irresponsible-vitriol/story?id=12583285)
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That sheriff is a pinhead.
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That sheriff is a pinhead.
Agreed.
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A friend of mine lives in Phoenix and I was talking to his mother recently, she said things were bad in Arizona.I just didn't realize it was this bad.
On a lighter note,the lady who helped disarm the assailant had the last name of Maisch, a distant relative of the Maico founders perhaps?
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Once again, German engineering works quietly and efficiently behind the scenes to save the world. :P
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Why would a Right Wingist read The Communist Manifesto, Hitler's Mein Kampf and the left-leaning magazine The New Republic?
Traditionally, the Left includes progressives, social liberals, social democrats, socialists, communists and anarchists. The Right includes conservatives, reactionaries, capitalists, monarchists, nationalists, nazism and fascists.
That's why he would read Mein Kampf if he was a right winger. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism)
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LOL, thats right opfer, right wingers want to kill off the jews.
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That's a false dichomy. In the simplest form of that statement:
"All Ducks are Birds Therefore All Birds are Ducks".
is obviously false.
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It was a joke. And I got what you were saying.
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Haha ok, I've seen ppl state that and be serious :)
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Wait a minute. National Socialism (aka Nazism) is now a right-wing view? Political views don't fit very well onto the traditional one-dimensional scale of Left and Right. I find it much more appropriate to put political views on the Nolan Chart, which accounts much better for positions that aren't "left" or "right" in the sense you get from most news shows.
(http://www.rumromanismrebellion.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/nolan-chart.png)
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interesting chart.
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That's true, all ideologies are combination of right and left views. The history of where right and left came from is the french revolution. The monarchy is the right since they upheld traditional values. They called them the right because they sat on the right or some crap. The left were the revolutionist who overthrew the french goverment because they wanted equal rights for the people. Left simply means they want equal rights for all citizens nothing more. How you achieve each of these is then the ideology which generally tends to be considered a mix, however in the end they usually consider the ideology to be overall left or right. The Nazis were considered far right, "nationalism" is right and "socialism" is left ideology, but nazism together is more far right. I don't think Hitler believed in equal rights and he didn't like left ideology and wanted to uphold traditional aryan values.
Any type of change or anything that attempted to make ppl equal was a left movement. The american revolution for example, was a left movement. The civil rights act in the 1960s was also, they changed the traditional values and sought equal rights. Hitler didn't like left politics, he also didn't really believe in equal rights for everyone.
You are right though, you can be left and hate communism, nothing is black and white. You can be right and hate nazism. There is more than one way to accomplish a goal. If you watched the news though like you said they put both sides against each other, when in reality everyone has views on both sides and they likely may not even realize it.