Post by: TMKIWI on March 08, 2013, 10:28:57 PM
Post by: ford832 on March 08, 2013, 10:45:02 PM
Post by: Stusmoke on March 08, 2013, 11:35:39 PM
Post by: TMKIWI on March 08, 2013, 11:40:12 PM
Different rules.
Post by: Stusmoke on March 08, 2013, 11:41:29 PM
He's talking about MX not offroad stu.
Different rules.
He mentioned dual sport and superbikes in the first paragraph, thats where I was headed. Everything below that was well written though. A no BS attitude is what magazines need.
Post by: msmola2002 on March 08, 2013, 11:48:14 PM
Post by: msmola2002 on March 08, 2013, 11:50:30 PM
not quite correct - last ones are being sold now
Post by: Stusmoke on March 08, 2013, 11:59:32 PM
http://www.bikebiz.com.au/products/Aprilia-RS125.html
not quite correct - last ones are being sold now
I can understand people preferring four strokes for street riding. Ease of use and fuel economy at low RPMs is what you'd need.
Post by: factoryX on March 09, 2013, 12:44:11 AM
http://www.bikebiz.com.au/products/Aprilia-RS125.html
not quite correct - last ones are being sold now
I can understand people preferring four strokes for street riding. Ease of use and fuel economy at low RPMs is what you'd need.
Actually, most series don't allow two strokes to race. And as for fuel economy, r6's are reporting 29mpg if you ride the bike the way it was designed(45mpg if you cruise and do nothing else), so what fuel efficiency are you talking about? The NSR500 was unmatched in the end and was put down because of it...
Post by: Stusmoke on March 09, 2013, 12:53:23 AM
http://www.bikebiz.com.au/products/Aprilia-RS125.html
not quite correct - last ones are being sold now
I can understand people preferring four strokes for street riding. Ease of use and fuel economy at low RPMs is what you'd need.
Actually, most series don't allow two strokes to race. And as for fuel economy, r6's are reporting 29mpg if you ride the bike the way it was designed(45mpg if you cruise and do nothing else), so what fuel efficiency are you talking about? The NSR500 was unmatched in the end and was put down because of it...
Huh? Really? So two stroke onroaders are actually more efficient? How amusing. I wonder how much longer manufacturers can afford to push this four stroke bullshit. I'm actually pretty sure I could get better mpg out of my 125 and it barely functions.
Post by: 2T Institute on March 09, 2013, 01:10:20 AM
Post by: SachsGS on March 09, 2013, 01:14:01 AM
Post by: twosmoke595 on March 09, 2013, 04:55:42 AM
Post by: msmola2002 on March 09, 2013, 05:10:34 AM
the RS 125 road bike is it's last year of production and derestricted with a 34mm VHSB carb they get about 9litres/100km(when used properly) about what my Ford Falcon averages.
Round town I was getting around 9L/100 with my RGV, and funnily enough on a ride down wollombi rd cruising at 120-145km/h I think I got as good as 6.5 but that was the only time in the time I rode it that it was ever that good. RMX on public rds was easily a good 10 or more.
Post by: Stusmoke on March 09, 2013, 07:35:56 AM
the RS 125 road bike is it's last year of production and derestricted with a 34mm VHSB carb they get about 9litres/100km(when used properly) about what my Ford Falcon averages.
Round town I was getting around 9L/100 with my RGV, and funnily enough on a ride down wollombi rd cruising at 120-145km/h I think I got as good as 6.5 but that was the only time in the time I rode it that it was ever that good. RMX on public rds was easily a good 10 or more.
I do not get how a 1 litre V twin can get economy equal to a 4 litre 6 cylinder falcon. Roughly 4 litre anyway.
Post by: factoryX on March 09, 2013, 01:58:57 PM
Post by: SachsGS on March 09, 2013, 03:22:44 PM
Post by: msmola2002 on March 09, 2013, 05:07:22 PM
the RS 125 road bike is it's last year of production and derestricted with a 34mm VHSB carb they get about 9litres/100km(when used properly) about what my Ford Falcon averages.
Round town I was getting around 9L/100 with my RGV, and funnily enough on a ride down wollombi rd cruising at 120-145km/h I think I got as good as 6.5 but that was the only time in the time I rode it that it was ever that good. RMX on public rds was easily a good 10 or more.
I do not get how a 1 litre V twin can get economy equal to a 4 litre 6 cylinder falcon. Roughly 4 litre anyway.
rgv is a 250cc v-twin.
Post by: 2T Institute on March 09, 2013, 07:53:06 PM
the RS 125 road bike is it's last year of production and derestricted with a 34mm VHSB carb they get about 9litres/100km(when used properly) about what my Ford Falcon averages.
Round town I was getting around 9L/100 with my RGV, and funnily enough on a ride down wollombi rd cruising at 120-145km/h I think I got as good as 6.5 but that was the only time in the time I rode it that it was ever that good. RMX on public rds was easily a good 10 or more.
I do not get how a 1 litre V twin can get economy equal to a 4 litre 6 cylinder falcon. Roughly 4 litre anyway.
RS125 is a single cylinder 125, the 130kgs wet weight doesn't help
Post by: msmola2002 on March 09, 2013, 08:15:33 PM
Post by: Stusmoke on March 10, 2013, 05:14:21 AM
the RS 125 road bike is it's last year of production and derestricted with a 34mm VHSB carb they get about 9litres/100km(when used properly) about what my Ford Falcon averages.
Round town I was getting around 9L/100 with my RGV, and funnily enough on a ride down wollombi rd cruising at 120-145km/h I think I got as good as 6.5 but that was the only time in the time I rode it that it was ever that good. RMX on public rds was easily a good 10 or more.
I do not get how a 1 litre V twin can get economy equal to a 4 litre 6 cylinder falcon. Roughly 4 litre anyway.
rgv is a 250cc v-twin.
Then that makes the case for it even worse lol.
Post by: factoryX on March 10, 2013, 06:29:18 AM
Post by: msmola2002 on March 10, 2013, 07:14:17 AM
that will pull 120-140mph
140 maybe with modified gearing. and a tailwind. and a 120lb rider. Off a cliff.
Saw about 200km/h at eastern creek, my cousin saw about 206-208 on his before it ran out of gears.
no go with aftermarket carbs. Downdraft.
Post by: 2T Institute on March 10, 2013, 09:29:23 AM
As for the RS 125 motor, it was honestly a turd.Rotax 123/122 is great engine. Recntly at the salt races a modified RGV got 210kmph a track based RGV got 202kmph, these a performance two strokes and fuel economy shouldn't be mentioned in the same sentence
Post by: bearorso on March 10, 2013, 11:54:34 PM
When have you seen this sort of thing in the LA Times, Washington Post, NY Times / your major cities Newspapers / News Sites?
That there are inaccuracies - is disappointing, and, sadly, to be expected these days. 'Journalists' should make an effort to get it right, it's their job to get facts straight.
But, look at the inaccuracies / mistakes made here on this thread by posters. It happens.
As for the street RS125 - well, look to what is replacing it. A bloody 4t 125. I'd rather ride a learner spec RS125 (and they are not much fun - compared to derestricted ones), than the RSV125 (I think it strangely has the 'V' designation?).
Aprilia, bear as much responsibility as Honda in the demise of 2ts, especially in Road Racing, as I've pointed out many times. Bastards, equally.
I wish I had the unallocated money to snaffle the last of the RS125 Road Bikes. A mate has snaffled nearly every last version of Sports 2ts, over the space of near 30 years - as well as numerous 4t Superbikes. He's recently wheeled a 'last of the line' RS125 into his workshop / gallery. Bottomless pockets can sometimes be put to good uses.
Post by: Stusmoke on March 11, 2013, 12:23:01 AM
The Key thing about that article, is that it was printed / published in a Mainstream Newspaper .
When have you seen this sort of thing in the LA Times, Washington Post, NY Times / your major cities Newspapers / News Sites?
That there are inaccuracies - is disappointing, and, sadly, to be expected these days. 'Journalists' should make an effort to get it right, it's their job to get facts straight.
But, look at the inaccuracies / mistakes made here on this thread by posters. It happens.
As for the street RS125 - well, look to what is replacing it. A bloody 4t 125. I'd rather ride a learner spec RS125 (and they are not much fun - compared to derestricted ones), than the RSV125 (I think it strangely has the 'V' designation?).
Aprilia, bear as much responsibility as Honda in the demise of 2ts, especially in Road Racing, as I've pointed out many times. Bastards, equally.
I wish I had the unallocated money to snaffle the last of the RS125 Road Bikes. A mate has snaffled nearly every last version of Sports 2ts, over the space of near 30 years - as well as numerous 4t Superbikes. He's recently wheeled a 'last of the line' RS125 into his workshop / gallery. Bottomless pockets can sometimes be put to good uses.
30 or so years from now when everything is running off a renewable energy source, those things will be worth their weight in gold. That dude might have spent alot on his collection, but if he decides to sell them all much later, its gonna be worth it.
Post by: factoryX on March 11, 2013, 12:45:10 AM
Post by: 2T Institute on March 11, 2013, 02:39:24 AM
Lawl, look on Aprilia forums, they struggle to get 36hp at of the rs125. The motor is a turd. And once you start pushing 34-36hp, the whole motor starts to fall apart. I wasn't joking about people switching the motors out.
Well the bikes used in a Spanish CEV spec class all made about 29kW at the wheel. Please tell me you have actual experience with this motor rather than base your conclusions on on bikes with engines maintained by 16yr olds on forums.
Post by: msmola2002 on March 11, 2013, 04:19:34 AM
Post by: riffraff on March 11, 2013, 05:34:08 AM
"APRILIA RS125 - $3200 2009. Euro wiring harness. All stock. 550miles."
So is it worth it, it's on Craigslist
Post by: Jeram on March 11, 2013, 05:38:21 AM
You mean that PJME is not the internetz pinnacle of motorcycle tuning? say it ain't so!
hahahha
Post by: factoryX on March 11, 2013, 07:23:53 PM
Post by: factoryX on March 11, 2013, 07:25:22 PM
Yes, right now any street legal 2t modern sport bike is worth that price.
"APRILIA RS125 - $3200 2009. Euro wiring harness. All stock. 550miles."
So is it worth it, it's on Craigslist
Post by: Jeram on March 11, 2013, 09:34:35 PM
its a 15 year old design, goes 10,000km between top end rebuilds and 20,000km between bottom end rebuilds.
With simple porting, pipe and carb you can bring the bike up to and beyond what a modern 125MX engine can do.
But yes I agree, the optimum thing to do is swap out the rotax 123/124 and then insert a rotax 128 disc valve motor (no frame mods) or 257 motor (minor frame mods).
Post by: streaks383 on March 11, 2013, 11:21:47 PM
http://columbus.craigslist.org/mcy/3653827478.html
Suzuki GT750
Post by: _X_ on March 11, 2013, 11:45:18 PM
this is'nt pretty!HA!AH!HA!
Post by: Stusmoke on March 12, 2013, 12:00:20 AM
all right boys the truth is....
this is'nt pretty!HA!AH!HA!
Racer X I think we were all a little unclear on what your sexuality now I think its clear as day.
Its good we've all got some closure
Post by: beaner on March 12, 2013, 12:03:09 AM
"APRILIA RS125 - $3200 2009. Euro wiring harness. All stock. 550miles."
So is it worth it, it's on Craigslist
I wish I could get one here for that.
We can get them new, but they're a little more than double that price. Too rich for me.
Post by: _X_ on March 12, 2013, 12:09:18 AM
Post by: factoryX on March 12, 2013, 12:13:33 AM
Post by: riffraff on March 12, 2013, 04:59:49 AM
Post by: _X_ on March 12, 2013, 11:44:41 AM
Post by: Stusmoke on March 12, 2013, 11:12:35 PM
Racer, you gotta quit listening to your vagina, next thing we know you'll be riding a 150F
Hey now, I know 3 kids that ride 150Rs and are perfectly cool! Of course they're also not even close to the speeds of kids on 85s and they wear clogs with socks
No kidding either, clogs with socks and riding pants, jersey aswell.Thats my country
Post by: _X_ on March 13, 2013, 01:11:29 AM
Post by: eprovenzano on March 13, 2013, 01:14:55 PM
I kill me.
some times we can only hope...
Post by: _X_ on March 13, 2013, 02:17:08 PM
Post by: Stusmoke on March 15, 2013, 12:55:10 AM
your in the nederlands stu?
hehehe I wish, this is the great country of Australia! Where we give people 18 years prison for murder. Theres almost TOO MUCH justice going around here these days...
Post by: 2T Institute on March 15, 2013, 01:57:19 AM
You mean that PJME is not the internetz pinnacle of motorcycle tuning? say it ain't so!
No and they had not the slightest idea how to 'fix' the big end bearing
That Craislist bike is a steal crap examples go for that money here a 'Spain's No1' for much more