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Two Stroke Motocross Forum => Photos & Videos => Topic started by: twosmoke595 on February 16, 2013, 03:59:18 PM

Title: TMX "If you could change one thing about Mx"
Post by: twosmoke595 on February 16, 2013, 03:59:18 PM
http://motocross.transworld.net/1000143726/videos/if-you-could-change-one-thing-about-mx/


Pretty interesting to see what james and wey have to say  :P :P

also i totally agree that the money is chump change, and not even worth riding for in the 250f class
Title: TMX "If you could change one thing about Mx"
Post by: Stusmoke on February 16, 2013, 08:40:06 PM
http://motocross.transworld.net/1000143726/videos/if-you-could-change-one-thing-about-mx/


Pretty interesting to see what james and wey have to say  :P :P

also i totally agree that the money is chump change, and not even worth riding for in the 250f class


I just about fell off my chair when I heard james say that. Everyone notice how he paused and stopped talking after saying bring back the two strokes? Sounded like he wanted to elaborate....
Title: TMX "If you could change one thing about Mx"
Post by: riffraff on February 17, 2013, 01:32:23 AM
http://motocross.transworld.net/1000143726/videos/if-you-could-change-one-thing-about-mx/


Pretty interesting to see what james and wey have to say  :P :P

also i totally agree that the money is chump change, and not even worth riding for in the 250f class



I just about fell off my chair when I heard james say that. Everyone notice how he paused and stopped talking after saying bring back the two strokes? Sounded like he wanted to elaborate....




He may have elaborated more and they edited that part out   ::)
Title: TMX "If you could change one thing about Mx"
Post by: Stusmoke on February 17, 2013, 03:28:06 AM
Quite possibly.
http://motocross.transworld.net/1000143726/videos/if-you-could-change-one-thing-about-mx/


Pretty interesting to see what james and wey have to say  :P :P

also i totally agree that the money is chump change, and not even worth riding for in the 250f class



I just about fell off my chair when I heard james say that. Everyone notice how he paused and stopped talking after saying bring back the two strokes? Sounded like he wanted to elaborate....




He may have elaborated more and they edited that part out   ::)

Quite possibly. But then again just about everything these riders say on anything that is getting shown to the public is probably scripted. The fact that james just supported a motorcycle that his sponsor doesn't even make let alone promote is odd. Somebodys not getting a christmas bonus :D
Title: TMX "If you could change one thing about Mx"
Post by: citabjockey on February 17, 2013, 07:29:43 AM
Health care, pay and two strokes. No surprises there!
Title: TMX "If you could change one thing about Mx"
Post by: Stusmoke on February 17, 2013, 09:31:02 PM
I can't believe these riders are whinging about how much they get paid...
Title: TMX "If you could change one thing about Mx"
Post by: twosmoke595 on February 17, 2013, 10:35:27 PM
I can't believe these riders are whinging about how much they get paid...

i'm sorry but its pretty bad. what they get paid for a 250f win is 2500 bucks, which is nothing. You realize there are futbol players who get paid millions to sit on the bench? where these racers are risking their lives getting paid basically nothing...
now the contract deals are another story
Title: TMX "If you could change one thing about Mx"
Post by: Stusmoke on February 17, 2013, 11:42:19 PM
After rewatching the vid, I realise my bad. I thought they were complaining about how much their contracts were. 2500 is pathetic for 250Fs. Those things get rebuilt every race and that doesn't even cover it. well alot of them get rebuilt every race anyway.
Title: TMX "If you could change one thing about Mx"
Post by: twosmoke595 on February 18, 2013, 12:51:28 AM
After rewatching the vid, I realise my bad. I thought they were complaining about how much their contracts were. 2500 is pathetic for 250Fs. Those things get rebuilt every race and that doesn't even cover it. well alot of them get rebuilt every race anyway.

the people who win dont have to touch their bike after they get through riding. It's the privateers (not rockstar suzuki privateer) where they're in a semi, but the privateer's that are in vans and trucks that you dont see unless you walk to the end of the pit area, those guys are the ones that are affected by it. Most lose money every single time they go
Title: TMX "If you could change one thing about Mx"
Post by: _X_ on February 18, 2013, 12:55:11 AM
spot on twosmoke.
Title: TMX "If you could change one thing about Mx"
Post by: Stusmoke on February 18, 2013, 01:01:04 AM
After rewatching the vid, I realise my bad. I thought they were complaining about how much their contracts were. 2500 is pathetic for 250Fs. Those things get rebuilt every race and that doesn't even cover it. well alot of them get rebuilt every race anyway.

the people who win dont have to touch their bike after they get through riding. It's the privateers (not rockstar suzuki privateer) where they're in a semi, but the privateer's that are in vans and trucks that you dont see unless you walk to the end of the pit area, those guys are the ones that are affected by it. Most lose money every single time they go

Thats what I was talking about man.
Title: TMX "If you could change one thing about Mx"
Post by: twosmoke595 on February 18, 2013, 01:08:41 AM
i wasn't bagging on you stu :)
Title: TMX "If you could change one thing about Mx"
Post by: nom de guerre on February 18, 2013, 01:29:06 AM
what amazes me is that there are still triple digit pro riders still chasing the dream... it isn't the prize money that keeps these guys going that is for sure.
Title: TMX "If you could change one thing about Mx"
Post by: twosmoke595 on February 18, 2013, 01:34:45 AM
what amazes me is that there are still triple digit pro riders still chasing the dream... it isn't the prize money that keeps these guys going that is for sure.

i talked to a few privateers, and you're right, they only do it because of the dream that they might get noticed by a bigger team. They are doing it for pure love of the sport. Most know nothing else.
Title: TMX "If you could change one thing about Mx"
Post by: msmola2002 on February 18, 2013, 01:39:22 AM
http://renegade.storenvy.com/products/57408-support-your-local-pros-t-shirt


Seemed like appropriate timing to post this - one of my favourite t shirts along with my 'nuke the quads' one

and since we are here...
http://renegade.storenvy.com/products/57404-2-stroke-4-stroke-t-shirt
Title: TMX "If you could change one thing about Mx"
Post by: Stusmoke on February 18, 2013, 06:08:47 AM
i wasn't bagging on you stu :)

I know, once again I've typed like I'm speaking and forget that its impossible to convey tone. Sorry  :(
Title: TMX "If you could change one thing about Mx"
Post by: Super Trucker on February 18, 2013, 07:58:18 AM
 250f  class  winner   might  only  get  2,500   in  purse  money,  but they  get  40-60k  bonus  from  there  team.  In  the 2-st   days   the team bonus  was   around   6k.   The  3 digit   pros   at   supercross   now  are  mega  rich  folks,  98 %  of  them  atleast.
Title: TMX "If you could change one thing about Mx"
Post by: 2T Institute on February 18, 2013, 08:15:00 AM
Instead of whinging they should put themselves through a PR school and learn how to speak in front of a camera. When sponsors see the riders are marketable they start to invest in the class. Geez who was the poor fellow with the manscaped eyebrows?

I could see a rider getting a bonus for winning series but not a race, most time win money is pooled and shared between the team.
Title: TMX "If you could change one thing about Mx"
Post by: vetman on February 18, 2013, 07:16:28 PM
Damn right on the pr and marketing, we have a rider down here not a youngster,now he has skill has a win record but has landed a team slot obviously for riding but more so because hes awesome off the track,he gets out helps the youngsters,will help the local up and comers offer advice,trains like a demon  and a very rare word in mx a role model .If you cant sell yourself and promote the sport and team you work for then go and find another career there is so much more than riding fast, do all of this properly then you might have a reason to bitch about low pay
Title: TMX "If you could change one thing about Mx"
Post by: Super Trucker on February 19, 2013, 04:53:43 AM
  The  riders   have  to  attend   pr  training ,  even  snocross   riders  have to.  Todays  riders   think  there  above  everything,   very  dull  group,  bunch  of robots,  4-st  riders  what   do  ya  expect.  Stewart   is  the only 1  with  half   a personatily   and  that  isn,t much.  haha   Nick  Wey  and  Stewart   are  the  ones   to  even  have  a thought,  it,s   cool  that  they  agree  that   a  2-st  are   better  for  everyone.
Title: TMX "If you could change one thing about Mx"
Post by: Sapper on February 21, 2013, 09:48:02 PM
Yes, I can see where the pay would kinda suck but they get kickback, and alot of it, from sponsors  if the they podium. I know of one rider who won a race and got a $36,000 check from GOPRO because he was sponsored AND was wearing it when he won.

Think about it. Stu made $10M in one year. You know darn well cry-baby Barcia is raking in the $$$,$$$.

Also, Gear, goggles, boots etc are given to alot of the riders.
As an ex-business owner, I was able to afford small things to sponsor racers, it was a tax write-off. A good friend of mine has his own business and sponsored his son and wrote off $27,000. That was bikes, parts, repairs, racing, travel, food and training at MTF.
Title: TMX "If you could change one thing about Mx"
Post by: kim wedding on February 21, 2013, 10:18:04 PM
I'm sick of pro athlete's crying about the money they make. All of them are over paid. How many of us amateur rider's get more than a crappy trophy for our love and decication to moto-x. I have a old motocross action magazine that talk's about how much is added to the cost of my bike to support a pro rider's racing effort and my 2007 honda cr125 cost 5,500 dollar's and they talked like 2,500 dollar's is what's added to my bike. So i guess my bike should of cost me 3,000 dollar's...

I'll try and find that old m.x a. mag. I think the article was titled ricky can't sell. Anybody remember the article i'm talking about??? KIM