Two Stroke Motocross
Two Stroke Motocross Forum => General Two Stroke Talk => Topic started by: ashpeat on January 12, 2013, 08:01:41 AM
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If money was no object what would you do to it?
I made a list the other day and realised it was already over 1000 pounds just on cosmetic stuff!!
Heres Mine
Brand Upgrade Price
Race-Tech Suspention Revalve and Spring £400.00
Pro Carbon Bash Plate - 2 stroke £99.99
Pro Carbon Exhaust Guard - 2 Stroke £79.99
Pro Carbon Tank Cover Set £84.99
Pro Carbon Front Fender Brace £39.99
Apico Flexi Lever (SET) £49.99
Apico Rear Brake Lever £44.99
Any Bleed Nipples £5.99
Danger-uk Custom Graphics £123.33
Generic Coloured Gear Lever £14.99
MotoSeat Seat cover £49.99
Boyesen Clutch and Ignition Cover £180.00
Bolt Hardwear Chain Adjusters £54.79
Total £1,229.03
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2006 rm250
boyesen clutch / ignition covers - the oem's are scarred
showa A kit suspension valved and sprung for my weight, for outdoor mx
ironman sprockets
fresh dunlops mx51's
fresh grips
oversized front rotor
that's about it. I'm not in to graphics or unuseful bling.
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2003 YZ250
All around build
06 up SSS forks/shock
2010 up yz250f swing arm
ESR 330 kit
Vforce 3 reeds
Aluminum Tank
Braided steel brake lines
Over sized rotors
Carbon Skid
FMF Fatty or Dep pipe with Q silencer
Carbon pipe guard
Smart Carb 
Optional trail/XC parts
Lighting coil
18 inch WR rear
3.2 gal oversized tank
13t front/52t rear
Rekluse EXP 2.0 clutch
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easy
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no other updates needed 2t institute.
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he said your bike 2Ti, not town bike

as for mods, Id be building a factory spec 125 chassis and purchasing an Aprilia RSA125 engine 
Nothing like a 50hp 125er with more midrange than one would expect
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well i just sold my 125 but ill still play. id pick up a 03-05 kx125 and stop in at Pro Circuit and build the dream bike. a full blown PC 125. works susp $5000 motor work. i dont really know but id drop an extra 5k. now to win the lotto....
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What would I put on my bike?
Me -- in better shape with more skill. 
My bikes are so much better than I am its ridiculous to put performance stuff on them.
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timbersled snow bike
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Depending on the season...
Summer:
-excel rims
-new spokes
-new grips
Winter:
-explorer snow conversion kit
-headlight
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2003 CR250R
Body/ Chassis-
Frame would be slightly modified to allow the engine to sit lower in the cradle and drop the center of gravity without changing the frame geometry
Carbon fiber gas tank w/sight gauge, made to sit lower in the frame and smooth out the bikes ergonomics from the gas tank to the seat Carbon fiber seat pan
Carbon fiber radiator braces and mounts
Titanium foot pegs (wide)
Titanium foot peg mounts, adjustable up/down/forward/ backward
Carbon fiber Sub-frame
Carbon Fiber air box with custom air boot for maximum air flow and efficiency
Titanium bolts for high torque/load specs
Aluminum bolts and drilled washers (anodized red) for all low torque/load specs
Carbon fiber skid/glide plate
Cycra power flow fenders front an rear
Carbon fiber radiator guards/louvers
Custom Blue seat cover with ridge panels made of the sticky stuff to keep my rear in place
Reinforced swing arm to lessen flex and sway for a true to feel suspension action as well as increased stability
Suspension-
Showa A-Kit front and rear(maybe try running the new air fork)
Titanium Rear spring
Custom billet triple clamps with 22mm offset
Custom linkage and linkage arms for optimal suspension action and ride height
Engine-
APT Billet Smart Carb 38mm Taper bored or oval bore
Boyesen Rad Valve
Cylinder and case reed ported to broaden the power band with as much over rev as possible
Head modded to support maximum and even fuel burn and support the broad range power band
Exhaust valve modded for max exhaust flow and to smooth out the hard hit for a bit more subtle hit
Custom Cone pipe to suit the broad power band
Balanced OEM crank with Ceramic bearings
Matched cases
Micro Blued internals (not too sure which parts would benefit from the process and which wouldn't need it)
Wiseco single ring flat top piston (stock bore)
Carbon fiber silencer with Titanium Stinger
Carbon fiber ignition cover
Carbon fiber clutch cover
ECU relocated to air box with custom wiring harness
I-Cat(maybe, don't know if it would be necessary)
***All engine mods would support 110 race gas***
Drive-
Titanium sprockets and chain from Sidewinder or similar (if $$$$is of no concern, then aluminum sprockets and non o-ring chains would do, just change them frequently)
Carbon fiber chain guide
Carbon fiber drive sprocket cover
Sealed bearing chain rollers
Titanium chain adjuster blocks and bolts
Transmission gears and internals would be Micro Blued for less wear and buttery smooth shifting
Ceramic transmission bearings
Hinson Clutch components
Hinson billet clutch hubs, inner and outer
Hydraulic Clutch with steel braided line to reduce hydraulic fade
Wheels-
Talon carbon fiber/aluminum hubs
Bulldog spokes and nipples (=0)
Tires would be dependent upon terrain and conditions (don't have a particular brand)
Excel A60 rims
Brakes-
Braking Bat Fly 270mm front rotor
Braking Bat Fly standard size rear rotor
Brembo calipers front and rear
Steel Braided brake lines
Carbon fiber rotor guards and caliper guards
Carbon fiber master cylinder and resevoir caps
Controls-
Easton 1-3/8" handle bars (I am currently running these bars and they are much nicer than my Pro Taper Contour or Renthal standard)
ARC composite unbreakable levers
Kevlar grips
Aluminum throttle tube with bar end bearing and adjustable Cams for greater variation in throttle control for the rider
Hammer Head Brake pedal with adjustable tip
Hammer head shift lever
Goodies-
Carbon Fiber self venting low profile gas cap
Red Plastics
Custom Graphics (not sure what to put on them yet)
I know I'm forgetting a bunch of stuff that I would like to do, but it's a start!
All Carbon Fiber and titanium parts are intended to make this bike as light as possible using the existing frame and engine!
Just my thoughts on my current ride!

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01 Honda CR125:
Full Ohlins suspension and sent off to PC for their most hardcore treatment, possibly Showa A-Kit.
Scalvani Cone pipe and silencer combo
10 Sets of black excel rims, front and rear with different tire combos mounted on all
Full eric gore engine work with 144cc and every ounce of power possible and the very best race gas money can buy
Replace everything that is not engine and chassis with titanium/carbon fibre (except plastics)
Full hinson clutch kit with magura hydraulic control
brembo calipers front and rear
Oversize rotors
All sizes of PC triple clamps available for my bike (So I can choose what offset suits best)
Renthal titanium sprockets front and rear
Titanium chain (Would probably need to be custom made, repeatedly)
2013 CRF450r plastics
Smartcarb or Keihin 38
Thats all I can think of at the moment. Theres easily 10s of thousands of dollars worth of stuff there.
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2003 CR250R
Body/ Chassis-
Frame would be slightly modified to allow the engine to sit lower in the cradle and drop the center of gravity without changing the frame geometry
Carbon fiber gas tank w/sight gauge, made to sit lower in the frame and smooth out the bikes ergonomics from the gas tank to the seat Carbon fiber seat pan
Carbon fiber radiator braces and mounts
Titanium foot pegs (wide)
Titanium foot peg mounts, adjustable up/down/forward/ backward
Carbon fiber Sub-frame
Carbon Fiber air box with custom air boot for maximum air flow and efficiency
Titanium bolts for high torque/load specs
Aluminum bolts and drilled washers (anodized red) for all low torque/load specs
Carbon fiber skid/glide plate
Cycra power flow fenders front an rear
Carbon fiber radiator guards/louvers
Custom Blue seat cover with ridge panels made of the sticky stuff to keep my rear in place
Reinforced swing arm to lessen flex and sway for a true to feel suspension action as well as increased stability
Suspension-
Showa A-Kit front and rear(maybe try running the new air fork)
Titanium Rear spring
Custom billet triple clamps with 22mm offset
Custom linkage and linkage arms for optimal suspension action and ride height
Engine-
APT Billet Smart Carb 38mm Taper bored or oval bore
Boyesen Rad Valve
Cylinder and case reed ported to broaden the power band with as much over rev as possible
Head modded to support maximum and even fuel burn and support the broad range power band
Exhaust valve modded for max exhaust flow and to smooth out the hard hit for a bit more subtle hit
Custom Cone pipe to suit the broad power band
Balanced OEM crank with Ceramic bearings
Matched cases
Micro Blued internals (not too sure which parts would benefit from the process and which wouldn't need it)
Wiseco single ring flat top piston (stock bore)
Carbon fiber silencer with Titanium Stinger
Carbon fiber ignition cover
Carbon fiber clutch cover
ECU relocated to air box with custom wiring harness
I-Cat(maybe, don't know if it would be necessary)
***All engine mods would support 110 race gas***
Drive-
Titanium sprockets and chain from Sidewinder or similar (if $$$$is of no concern, then aluminum sprockets and non o-ring chains would do, just change them frequently)
Carbon fiber chain guide
Carbon fiber drive sprocket cover
Sealed bearing chain rollers
Titanium chain adjuster blocks and bolts
Transmission gears and internals would be Micro Blued for less wear and buttery smooth shifting
Ceramic transmission bearings
Hinson Clutch components
Hinson billet clutch hubs, inner and outer
Hydraulic Clutch with steel braided line to reduce hydraulic fade
Wheels-
Talon carbon fiber/aluminum hubs
Bulldog spokes and nipples (=0)
Tires would be dependent upon terrain and conditions (don't have a particular brand)
Excel A60 rims
Brakes-
Braking Bat Fly 270mm front rotor
Braking Bat Fly standard size rear rotor
Brembo calipers front and rear
Steel Braided brake lines
Carbon fiber rotor guards and caliper guards
Carbon fiber master cylinder and resevoir caps
Controls-
Easton 1-3/8" handle bars (I am currently running these bars and they are much nicer than my Pro Taper Contour or Renthal standard)
ARC composite unbreakable levers
Kevlar grips
Aluminum throttle tube with bar end bearing and adjustable Cams for greater variation in throttle control for the rider
Hammer Head Brake pedal with adjustable tip
Hammer head shift lever
Goodies-
Carbon Fiber self venting low profile gas cap
Red Plastics
Custom Graphics (not sure what to put on them yet)
I know I'm forgetting a bunch of stuff that I would like to do, but it's a start!
All Carbon Fiber and titanium parts are intended to make this bike as light as possible using the existing frame and engine!
Just my thoughts on my current ride!

On second thoughts, THIS. Except where its a personal thing like handlebars
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Carbon Fiber air box with custom air boot for maximum air flow and efficiency
Titanium bolts for high torque/load specs
Reinforced swing arm to lessen flex and sway for a true to feel suspension action as well as increased stability
Engine-
APT Billet Smart Carb 38mm Taper bored or oval bore
Boyesen Rad Valve
Cylinder and case reed ported to broaden the power band with as much over rev as possible
Head modded to support maximum and even fuel burn and support the broad range power band
Exhaust valve modded for max exhaust flow and to smooth out the hard hit for a bit more subtle hit
Custom Cone pipe to suit the broad power band
Balanced OEM crank with Ceramic bearings
Matched cases
Micro Blued internals (not too sure which parts would benefit from the process and which wouldn't need it)
Wiseco single ring flat top piston (stock bore)
Carbon fiber silencer with Titanium Stinger
Carbon fiber ignition cover
Carbon fiber clutch cover
ECU relocated to air box with custom wiring harness
I-Cat(maybe, don't know if it would be necessary)WTF
***All engine mods would support 110 race gas***
Drive-
Titanium sprockets and chain from Sidewinder or similar (if $$$$is of no concern, then aluminum sprockets and non o-ring chains would do, just change them frequently)
Carbon fiber chain guide
Carbon fiber drive sprocket cover
Sealed bearing chain rollers
Titanium chain adjuster blocks and bolts
Transmission gears and internals would be Micro Blued for less wear and buttery smooth shifting
Ceramic transmission bearings
Hinson Clutch components
Hinson billet clutch hubs, inner and outer
Hydraulic Clutch with steel braided line to reduce hydraulic fade
Miranda ain't no town bike(well I would like to think so anyway)
Hmmmm motorboating
A couple of things here airboxes (on mxers)don't have air flow or efficiency they just have a volume and have to fit around the suspension. Titanium bolts are not torqued to higher specs a 6 or 8mm bolt should be torqued to the same figure regardless of material. Manufacturers spend a lot of money engineering the right amount of flex into frames and swing arms, if you stiffen the frame to much you reduce the feel.
Porting the cylinder(or worse still the cases) won't change over rev, the ignition does that, and by moving your stator you can do right now if you wish.On a CR you can spend a few 100 on a an ignition/pv controler that will allow a custom PV/ignition curves.
You would have $20k left over.
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Carbon Fiber air box with custom air boot for maximum air flow and efficiency
Titanium bolts for high torque/load specs
Reinforced swing arm to lessen flex and sway for a true to feel suspension action as well as increased stability
Engine-
APT Billet Smart Carb 38mm Taper bored or oval bore
Boyesen Rad Valve
Cylinder and case reed ported to broaden the power band with as much over rev as possible
Head modded to support maximum and even fuel burn and support the broad range power band
Exhaust valve modded for max exhaust flow and to smooth out the hard hit for a bit more subtle hit
Custom Cone pipe to suit the broad power band
Balanced OEM crank with Ceramic bearings
Matched cases
Micro Blued internals (not too sure which parts would benefit from the process and which wouldn't need it)
Wiseco single ring flat top piston (stock bore)
Carbon fiber silencer with Titanium Stinger
Carbon fiber ignition cover
Carbon fiber clutch cover
ECU relocated to air box with custom wiring harness
I-Cat(maybe, don't know if it would be necessary)WTF
***All engine mods would support 110 race gas***
Drive-
Titanium sprockets and chain from Sidewinder or similar (if $$$$is of no concern, then aluminum sprockets and non o-ring chains would do, just change them frequently)
Carbon fiber chain guide
Carbon fiber drive sprocket cover
Sealed bearing chain rollers
Titanium chain adjuster blocks and bolts
Transmission gears and internals would be Micro Blued for less wear and buttery smooth shifting
Ceramic transmission bearings
Hinson Clutch components
Hinson billet clutch hubs, inner and outer
Hydraulic Clutch with steel braided line to reduce hydraulic fade
Miranda ain't no town bike(well I would like to think so anyway)
Hmmmm motorboating
A couple of things here airboxes (on mxers)don't have air flow or efficiency they just have a volume and have to fit around the suspension. Titanium bolts are not torqued to higher specs a 6 or 8mm bolt should be torqued to the same figure regardless of material. Manufacturers spend a lot of money engineering the right amount of flex into frames and swing arms, if you stiffen the frame to much you reduce the feel.
Porting the cylinder(or worse still the cases) won't change over rev, the ignition does that, and by moving your stator you can do right now if you wish.On a CR you can spend a few 100 on a an ignition/pv controler that will allow a custom PV/ignition curves.
You would have $20k left over.
Is there ANYTHING you DON'T know about two strokes? I'm not being sarcastic either, you seriously seem to know EVERYTHING.
Jelly
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I have a 2003 CR 250 also... I'll take the same as Swimr2DaResQ. Lol! Wow, my wants are broad as they are long. Just wished I had the money to do just even a percentage of my wants.
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I have a 2003 CR 250 also... I'll take the same as Swimr2DaResQ. Lol! Wow, my wants are broad as they are long. Just wished I had the money to do just even a percentage of my wants.
Don't we all
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09 YZ125
I'd be calling...
Lightspeed
Dubya
Enzo Racing (again)
Applied
MT Racing (Vortex Ignition)
APT
Pete Vetrano for a Scalvini system
...and RC for some lessons!
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I'll take your Miranda and raise you 1 Elle.

As for the bike.
Balance the crank and have the head modified.
Then I'll need to grow a larger set and keep it on the pipe more. 
Don't need anymore mods on TM's.
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EFI, wait, I've already got that!! No more mod's just ride it.
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I'll take your Miranda and raise you 1 Elle.
I'll take both 
Aside from some minor bike upgrades cosmetically, I would honestly go for some lessons from a pro, and better shape, and have a private track. I know the track part isn't necessarily a mod, but it would come in handy
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motard wheels and a licence plate
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I would unscrew the gas cap and roll a 2013 Maico beneath it, then tighten and ride.
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get Roger DeCoster to build me a 2013 SX250 Dungey Rep

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Some training wheels for me........

Seriously I would just get a carby that works properly, go and the best suspension I could buy....
And I would still ride like a crab....
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Full Öhlins suspension
Talon/Excel wheels
300 SXS Kit
Full Scalvini exhaust
Boyesen clutch and ignition cover
KTM Powerparts plastic skid plate
X-Trig 2013 triple clamps
Raptor Ti footpegs
Husaberg Powerparts blue flex levers
Hammerhead brake pedal and shifter
Sometimes I wish I was rich...