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Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: Charles Owens on November 14, 2012, 08:53:19 PM
Last night we picked up a 2005 KX 125 for a 'Budget Build' Project.






It came apart great, no unexpected issues and most of the parts are in great shape.
Wiseco/Pro X, FMF, Cycle Playground and Decal Works have stepped up to support the project.
Stay tuned. :)



Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: gpnewhouse7 on November 14, 2012, 09:35:15 PM
Three words. Pro Circuit replica.
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: Coop on November 14, 2012, 10:05:57 PM
Nice. I'm a KX fan as you know, I'll keep my eye on this one!
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: scotty dog on November 15, 2012, 09:48:37 AM
Yes!! another project, it will look hot!! I got a good idea, make it a RED Kawasaki :D :D :D :D :D
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: gpnewhouse7 on November 15, 2012, 10:10:04 AM
Yes!! another project, it will look hot!! I got a good idea, make it a RED Kawasaki :D :D :D :D :D

Or purple like the nineties ones.
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: SachsGS on November 15, 2012, 03:07:06 PM
Please no purple or pink!  :-X
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: beaner on November 15, 2012, 07:24:09 PM
Hopefully Decalworks has something a little more tasteful than the hideous graphics it has now.
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: Charles Owens on November 15, 2012, 09:48:27 PM
We just dropped the frame off for some Green powder, should have it back by Wednesday. We should be getting parts in by then and the rebuild can begin. :)
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: metal_miracle on November 15, 2012, 10:14:34 PM
depending on how much of a budget you have..

white plastic could be cool
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: Super Trucker on November 15, 2012, 11:03:41 PM
COOL project, there was always alot of kx125,s at the track when there was a 125 class. The kx riders where hard core, but now ya never see anyone riding a 1990-2005 kx  or rebuilding them. I wonder why that is, there,s a ton of   older cr125  rebuild bikes out there.
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: Stusmoke on November 16, 2012, 12:57:53 AM
Three words. Pro Circuit replica.

This this this and this again.

Toss the current plastics and jerry rig some '12 KX450F with a Pro Circuit/Monster Energy team graphics kit.
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: _X_ on November 16, 2012, 02:18:33 AM
there you go wanting to four stroke a beautifull two stroke with cosmetics, just throw some cams in it for good measure why don't you.
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: twosmoke595 on November 16, 2012, 02:57:29 AM
its a budget build guys, not a replica build  :-*

i can't believe he got it for 800 bucks, running and everything, the bike looks great already, aside from graphics, and cleaning it up a little

not sure about that green frame though
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: ford832 on November 16, 2012, 06:48:41 PM
Starting a build with a KX is certainly doing it the hard way-if you're after power anyway.Sound cool though. 8)
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: Charles Owens on November 16, 2012, 06:56:19 PM
As much as I would love to build this bike 100%, we are trying to show that for under $2,000 you can build a competetive, reliable race ready bike.
It will be getting fresh bearings, brakes, cables, rubber, RAD Valve, FMF Pipes, Wiseco top end, clutch and a few other bits.
For a little extra power Cycle Playground will be doing a $175 Stage 1 port/head mod.
Our friend Pete Baltera will be stitching us a custom pleated seat. (He did the 144 seat).
We are looking to have it finished by the 26th. I'll keep you guys posted. :)
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: gpnewhouse7 on November 16, 2012, 07:06:01 PM
Pointless doing that Charles a single Monster sticker will add more power than all of that lot put together lol
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: scotty dog on November 17, 2012, 12:16:22 PM
Pointless doing that Charles a single Monster sticker will add more power than all of that lot put together lol
Imagine how fast it would go if Charles did what Stusmoke suggested!!! :D
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: motoxr377 on November 17, 2012, 10:04:04 PM
Pro circuit cylinder/head mods aren't too expensive!

Very excited, Charles
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: motoman356 on November 18, 2012, 02:17:19 AM
at least as far as the graphics go i vote this

Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: eprovenzano on November 18, 2012, 02:30:47 PM
Charles I'm looking forward to this build...  there is nothing like a responible, budget build.  As for graphics, personally I don't care what's on it other then something showing it's a TSM bike.
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: Sapper on March 04, 2013, 04:13:36 PM
UGHHHHH! now you had to go and do it. Hopefully my son stays on Halo4 for awhile. He's been buggin me on doing his 03 for 2 yrs now. Just not in the budget right now. AAANNNDDDD, you had to mention getting the frame PC'd green too.

See white plastics would be cool. Like I said on FB, good luck getting UFO to ship them in.

BTW, I hope the $2g is including the cost of the bike as well.
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: Charles Owens on March 04, 2013, 04:24:56 PM
Yes $2,000 is including the cost of the bike as well.
As far as the graphics and plastics go, Green/White plastics and Decal Works will be sending proofs in a few days. I'll be sure to post them up as soon as I get them.
The cylinder/head shipped to Cycle Playground this morning for mild port/head work.
The frame will be back in 2 days, I'll be able to start some assembly. Hopefully the majoriy of the parts will be here by Friday.
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: Charles Owens on March 04, 2013, 07:45:00 PM
Pete Baltera stitched us a seat cover for the project. (He did the YZ 144 seat as well)


Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: Charles Owens on March 04, 2013, 10:53:30 PM
Graphics proof:

Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: Coop on March 05, 2013, 02:54:29 AM
Good stuff so far. Looking to see pics of it going back together!
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: shanes on March 05, 2013, 03:05:22 AM
Good stuff so far. Looking to see pics of it going back together!

+1 looking very nice
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: scotty dog on March 05, 2013, 01:58:40 PM
Like the graphics, lookin good ;)
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: twosmoke595 on November 20, 2012, 08:06:51 PM
before everybody gets all crazy about the boeson products not counting as a "budget build" charles said he's going to do a list of what is absolutely essential in the budget build, and then do another list on top of the essential list, on what else was acquired for the build


Budget build: total $
boyeson
fmf
wiseco
blah blah

extras: overall total $
plastic
graphics
bling
blah blah


boyeson <3 ^^^  ;D ;D ;D
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: Charles Owens on November 20, 2012, 09:45:48 PM
Even with the extra 'bling' it will still be right around $2k including cost of the bike. Very budget friendly in my opinion. :)

Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: twosmoke595 on November 20, 2012, 10:25:52 PM
Even with the extra 'bling' it will still be right around $2k including cost of the bike. Very budget friendly in my opinion. :)



really? dang! that's crazy
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: TCI Performance on November 20, 2012, 10:52:12 PM
Looking good.......can't wait to see the finished product.
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: Charles Owens on November 21, 2012, 04:28:13 AM


Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: shanes on November 21, 2012, 06:33:24 AM
very sexy
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: TMKIWI on November 21, 2012, 06:40:23 AM
I don't get the negitivity that KX's get at times.
Always had a soft spot for the green meanies. ;D
Looking good guys.
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: Charles Owens on November 26, 2012, 02:09:09 PM
We hit a little snag over the weekend, but it's worked out. Cycle playground cleaned up the cylinder and found it needed to be re-plated.
Luckily right about the same time, a rep from Millenium Technologies said they would like to support the project by providing a cylinder. Back on track, with only a few day delay. :)

http://www.mt-llc.com/
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: Coop on November 26, 2012, 03:28:52 PM
Nice!
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: Charles Owens on November 26, 2012, 04:52:00 PM
ProX provided us with linkage/steering bearings, brake pads, fork bushings/seals/wipers and some other misc goodies.
We'll be powder coating and rebuilding the linkage today.



We also got in our first delivery from Wiseco. :)



The plastics/graphics will be here tomorrow along with a few other items.
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: Super Trucker on November 26, 2012, 06:23:21 PM
We hit a little snag over the weekend, but it's worked out. Cycle playground cleaned up the cylinder and found it needed to be re-plated.
Luckily right about the same time, a rep from Millenium Technologies said they would like to support the project by providing a cylinder. Back on track, with only a few day delay. :)

http://www.mt-llc.com/
  Millenium rocks, they do amazing work. My 04 stroker crank cr125, seized twice and broke the exhaust port bridge. Using my engine builders plater, the bore wasn,t even round, plating looked terrible. So I used my own money and sent it to Millenium, they welded and built the bridge up, chanfer all the ports really good, amazing work. Once ya break a cr,s exhaust bridge, they keep breaking. Millenium did the impossible, the exhaust brige is super solid. The green frame looks awesome.
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: Jeram on November 26, 2012, 09:06:14 PM
Eric gore now works with millennium. See if they will throw in some porting :)
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: Charles Owens on November 27, 2012, 03:19:13 PM
Cycle Playground is doing the porting/head work
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: Stusmoke on November 28, 2012, 12:35:08 AM
Might i suggest that you keep it at around $1800? That way you can tell all the fooper troopers you made a bike that well and truly tromps theirs for the same price it costs them to to a top end :D
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: marc.winder on November 28, 2012, 01:36:59 PM




How did you get the engine cases cleaned up and looking like that? I'm trying to clean up a 05 YZ125 and I'm impressed how good you made that engine look!
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: Charles Owens on November 28, 2012, 02:41:12 PM


How did you get the engine cases cleaned up and looking like that? I'm trying to clean up a 05 YZ125 and I'm impressed how good you made that engine look!

Soda blasting and a soft wire brush on a dremel
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: Charles Owens on November 28, 2012, 08:49:21 PM
Some fresh linkage bearings and a little more powder.



Plastics and Graphics from Decal Works:

Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: scotty dog on November 28, 2012, 09:58:33 PM
Top stuff Charles, it's really starting to look the goods now ;)
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: Stusmoke on November 29, 2012, 12:45:04 AM
Top stuff Charles, it's really starting to look the goods now ;)

This. I've never been a huge fan of the green machines simply because of their known unreliability. But this, I like.
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: eprovenzano on November 29, 2012, 04:03:35 PM
Looks great Charles, i can't wait to see her ripping around a track
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: motoxr377 on November 29, 2012, 04:20:35 PM
Looks great Charles.
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: Charles Owens on November 29, 2012, 09:26:46 PM
Moved from the work bench to the stand. :)

Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: Coop on November 29, 2012, 09:38:22 PM
Looking good!

I had a KX250 in the 90's that I polished the sub frame on. I thought it was trick at the time but it was a real pain to keep nice haha.
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: _X_ on November 29, 2012, 10:34:48 PM
yikes! no rag over the crank.
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: Charles Owens on November 30, 2012, 03:35:07 PM
yikes! no rag over the crank.

Everything is always covered, they just get removed for photos..
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: _X_ on November 30, 2012, 04:25:23 PM
 i figured that. just spicing this thread up is all.
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: TMKIWI on December 01, 2012, 06:43:26 AM
This. I've never been a huge fan of the green machines simply because of their known unreliability. But this, I like.

I don't think kdx owners would agree with that statement stu.
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: Stusmoke on December 01, 2012, 09:28:36 AM
This. I've never been a huge fan of the green machines simply because of their known unreliability. But this, I like.

I don't think kdx owners would agree with that statement stu.

You're right, what I said was not what I meant at all. When I said green machines I meant the KX line up. My bad, poor choice of words.
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: gpnewhouse7 on December 01, 2012, 09:57:53 AM
Not a big fan of the KX (they just don`t look right) but this is beginning to look pretty cool.
Would of been a LOT faster with Monster graphics but oh well.

I say the next project bike should be from a european manufacturer though.
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: ford832 on December 06, 2012, 08:00:58 PM
So,you can make a silk purse out of a sows ear. :o Who'da thunk it?
Nice job.Love the rad shrouds too. 8)
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: 2T Institute on December 06, 2012, 08:22:16 PM


Cylinder coming back from Millennium Technologies and Cycle Playground:




Are you going to send the cylinder back to whoever did the "porting" because all of that fell out of favour in the 70's
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: motoxr377 on December 07, 2012, 09:32:38 PM


Cylinder coming back from Millennium Technologies and Cycle Playground:




Are you going to send the cylinder back to whoever did the "porting" because all of that fell out of favour in the 70's

All you ever do is bring people down, you pompous dick.
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: motoxr377 on December 07, 2012, 09:33:56 PM
Looks great Charles. Keep it up!
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: 2T Institute on December 08, 2012, 10:56:03 AM


Cylinder coming back from Millennium Technologies and Cycle Playground:




Are you going to send the cylinder back to whoever did the "porting" because all of that fell out of favour in the 70's

All you ever do is bring people down, you pompous dick.

What do you do? Swing wildly between a sycophantic fanboi and a obnoxious cretin. If something is shit it needs to be said 
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: motoxr377 on December 08, 2012, 02:14:31 PM
If something is shit it needs to be said.

I believe that is what I've done.
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: ford832 on December 08, 2012, 02:46:38 PM
If something is shit it needs to be said.

I believe that is what I've done.

 ;D

Maybe the proof is in the build.I'll be interested in the ride report myself.
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: Stusmoke on December 08, 2012, 10:51:04 PM
If something is shit it needs to be said.

I believe that is what I've done.

 ;D

Maybe the proof is in the build.I'll be interested in the ride report myself.

This.

Its looking good Charles. Looking forward to aforementioned ride report.
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: Charles Owens on December 20, 2012, 08:03:45 PM
Everything went fairly smooth.
Started with 400 main/ 35 pilot, middle clip. We ended up dropping the needle 1 clip, jetting is spot on.
We also had the front master cylinder blow out at the track, I swapped it with an extra I had.

The power surprised me, plenty from bottom to top.
The Wiseco/Boyesen/FMF combo make her sing for sure! We'll have some video coming soon
Title: TSM 2005 KX 125 Budget Build
Post by: cnrcpla on December 20, 2012, 09:00:15 PM
Nice. Well if it performed half as good as it looks than you are in good shape.