Two Stroke Motocross

Two Stroke Motocross Forum => General Two Stroke Talk => Topic started by: citabjockey on November 03, 2012, 06:18:20 PM

Title: Yet another cool Euro two stroke enduro that I can't get here in the States....
Post by: citabjockey on November 03, 2012, 06:18:20 PM
Sherco X-Ride 290:

Trials bike with a seat and lights.



http://www.sherco.com/EN/Xride.html

Title: Yet another cool Euro two stroke enduro that I can''t get here in the States....
Post by: _X_ on November 03, 2012, 06:22:43 PM
the ultimate winter weapon.
Title: Yet another cool Euro two stroke enduro that I can''''t get here in the States....
Post by: Stusmoke on November 07, 2012, 08:56:10 AM
That exhaust looks like a four joker exhaust.
Title: Yet another cool Euro two stroke enduro that I can''''''''t get here in the States....
Post by: factoryX on November 07, 2012, 04:27:06 PM
Trials bike motor derp...

With a 4 stroke style pipe it effectively turns it into an insane diesel motor producing 16-20hp with like 60lbs of torque ha. Why I laugh at 4 stroke trials bikes as there is no need for them what so ever..
Title: Yet another cool Euro two stroke enduro that I can''''''''''''''''t get here in the States....
Post by: Stusmoke on November 08, 2012, 06:48:23 AM
Quote from: WTFactoryX on November 08, 2012, 12:27:06 AM
Trials bike motor derp...

With a 4 stroke style pipe it effectively turns it into an insane diesel motor producing 16-20hp with like 60lbs of torque ha. Why I laugh at 4 stroke trials bikes as there is no need for them what so ever..

Ok a quick question. What is the difference between HP and torque and what is torque defined as? Remember, QUICK question I don't want to thread steal.
Title: Yet another cool Euro two stroke enduro that I can''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''t get here in the States....
Post by: citabjockey on November 08, 2012, 02:45:07 PM
Quick ansswer. Torque is a measure of how hard the engine is twisting the crankshaft -- how much rotational force is being applied. For HP you take that force and multiply it by how fast the crank is spinning. Thats why you see a flat torque curve with a rising HP curve on dyno charts.

Quote from: Stusmoke on November 08, 2012, 02:48:23 PM
Quote from: WTFactoryX on November 08, 2012, 12:27:06 AM
Trials bike motor derp...

With a 4 stroke style pipe it effectively turns it into an insane diesel motor producing 16-20hp with like 60lbs of torque ha. Why I laugh at 4 stroke trials bikes as there is no need for them what so ever..

Ok a quick question. What is the difference between HP and torque and what is torque defined as? Remember, QUICK question I don't want to thread steal.
Title: Yet another cool Euro two stroke enduro that I can''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''t get here in the States....
Post by: Stusmoke on November 08, 2012, 11:08:26 PM
Quote from: citabjockey on November 08, 2012, 10:45:07 PM
Quick ansswer. Torque is a measure of how hard the engine is twisting the crankshaft -- how much rotational force is being applied. For HP you take that force and multiply it by how fast the crank is spinning. Thats why you see a flat torque curve with a rising HP curve on dyno charts.

Quote from: Stusmoke on November 08, 2012, 02:48:23 PM
Quote from: WTFactoryX on November 08, 2012, 12:27:06 AM
Trials bike motor derp...

With a 4 stroke style pipe it effectively turns it into an insane diesel motor producing 16-20hp with like 60lbs of torque ha. Why I laugh at 4 stroke trials bikes as there is no need for them what so ever..

Ok a quick question. What is the difference between HP and torque and what is torque defined as? Remember, QUICK question I don't want to thread steal.

That makes sense actually. Thanks
Title: Yet another cool Euro two stroke enduro that I can''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''t get here in the States....
Post by: ford832 on November 08, 2012, 11:44:32 PM
Horsepower is just a function of torque.Basically, Horsepower=(Torque x Engine Speed)/5252

Put another way,horsepower is a measurement of "Work/Time" where Torque is a measure of work.

Generally if you have a Honda you have neither so you don't need to worry about it ;D  ;)

Cool bike btw,I always thought a trials bike with a seat and decent capacity tank so you could cover some distance between play areas would be the ultimate fun bike.
Title: Yet another cool Euro two stroke enduro that I can't get here in the States....
Post by: beaner on November 09, 2012, 04:48:14 PM
I sat on one of these yesterday



It was pretty cool. 280 cc 2 stroke FI
Title: Yet another cool Euro two stroke enduro that I can''t get here in the States....
Post by: Stusmoke on November 10, 2012, 05:17:59 AM
Its so sad that we haven't got DI/FI two stroke motocrossers yet. From the factory floor anyway. The technology has existed in two stroke sleds for god knows how long but four joke sales have voided any reason to make two strokes kick the p**s out of them.
Title: Yet another cool Euro two stroke enduro that I can''''t get here in the States....
Post by: factoryX on November 10, 2012, 05:57:27 AM
I fear an  oncoming train of EFI related comments as to whether or not EFI has a place on two stroke motocross bikes.
Title: Yet another cool Euro two stroke enduro that I can''''''''t get here in the States....
Post by: Jeram on November 10, 2012, 01:49:00 PM
there is a good test video of that ossa on youtube, its in spanish but its great to see it being ridden up a steep rocky track!