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Title: TM Racing History
Post by: TMKIWI on September 27, 2012, 01:39:45 AM
In Pictures.

The Start.


The 80's.





























Title: TM Racing History
Post by: Stusmoke on September 27, 2012, 02:55:42 AM
Man what a company. I've made the recent discovery that there is in fact a halfway decent presense of TM in Queensland so I'm looking to make a TM 144 mx my next bike. 2013 of course :P If they can match KTMs horsepower that would be even sweeter.

Good thread
Title: TM Racing History
Post by: luthier269 on September 27, 2012, 03:32:49 AM
The first one looks alot like an SWM with Maico forks.
Title: TM Racing History
Post by: TMKIWI on September 27, 2012, 03:50:55 AM
The 90's.

















































Title: TM Racing History
Post by: TMKIWI on September 27, 2012, 07:20:37 AM
2000's































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Title: TM Racing History
Post by: SachsGS on September 27, 2012, 03:11:11 PM
I've got a TM in the shop right now. Maybe this Winter I'll finish the project.
Title: TM Racing History
Post by: eprovenzano on September 27, 2012, 06:23:43 PM
I've got a TM in the shop right now. Maybe this Winter I'll finish the project.

SachsGS I think you have toooo many projects  :o and many of us here are willing to lend a hand...  just crate up the bike and parts, ship it to us, (of course supply us with your credit card so we can purchase required parts, supplies, fuel, etc.) We will put the bike(s) together, thoroughly test them, and when we are done thrashing it, we'll re-crate it, and ship it back to you.  Of course the cost of re-crating , and shipping will be added onto your credit card.

See we are all here to help clean out your garage / workshop to make room for more projects.   ;D
Title: TM Racing History
Post by: twosmoke595 on September 27, 2012, 08:20:22 PM
what would be nice is, somehow getting a review of each year of the bikes, and then by each year saying what chanced, what was better/worse than the previous year, and then do that all the way up until the new ones
Title: TM Racing History
Post by: TMKIWI on September 27, 2012, 09:52:49 PM
what would be nice is, somehow getting a review of each year of the bikes, and then by each year saying what chanced, what was better/worse than the previous year, and then do that all the way up until the new ones

I am trying mate.
Not alot of info around on TM's. Easier to do with the last few years.
I do have some test rides I will put up.
Title: TM Racing History
Post by: 2T Institute on September 27, 2012, 10:37:14 PM
I take a few of those disc valve kart engines.
Title: TM Racing History
Post by: chump6784 on September 27, 2012, 11:00:58 PM
Man what a company. I've made the recent discovery that there is in fact a halfway decent presense of TM in Queensland so I'm looking to make a TM 144 mx my next bike. 2013 of course :P If they can match KTMs horsepower that would be even sweeter.

Good thread

The TM dealer in Brisbane is pretty cool. Has been running a team out of his shop to get TM's name out there. I was trying to decide between KTM or TM but there were no 250mx models left in Australia so that made the choice easy for me
Title: TM Racing History
Post by: Stusmoke on September 28, 2012, 12:50:42 AM
Man what a company. I've made the recent discovery that there is in fact a halfway decent presense of TM in Queensland so I'm looking to make a TM 144 mx my next bike. 2013 of course :P If they can match KTMs horsepower that would be even sweeter.

Good thread

The TM dealer in Brisbane is pretty cool. Has been running a team out of his shop to get TM's name out there. I was trying to decide between KTM or TM but there were no 250mx models left in Australia so that made the choice easy for me

Hah, I can imagine it would be. I don't know hey its difficult the KTM 150 is apparently an awesome handler and its got the power. The suspension is alot better than the 2012 apparently. But its a TM we're talking about here. If they manage to get close to the power of the KTM in 2013 we'll see. In 2013 the TM 144mx is getting the electronic powervalve that the 125 has which should be good. We'll see how I go and who knows, there might not be any 2013 sx150s left by the time I get a job and am good to pay for it.

what would be nice is, somehow getting a review of each year of the bikes, and then by each year saying what chanced, what was better/worse than the previous year, and then do that all the way up until the new ones

I am trying mate.
Not alot of info around on TM's. Easier to do with the last few years.
I do have some test rides I will put up.

http://tmracingmotorcycles.com/media/magazine-tests/

Theres a bunch of magazine tests for various TM bikes on that page, good reads I read alot of them yesterday.
Title: TM Racing History
Post by: 2STROKEREVOLUTION on September 28, 2012, 01:20:04 AM
Man what a company. I've made the recent discovery that there is in fact a halfway decent presense of TM in Queensland so I'm looking to make a TM 144 mx my next bike. 2013 of course :P If they can match KTMs horsepower that would be even sweeter.

Good thread

The TM should be on par with the KTM. And with the electronic powervalve, the low end should be much better. Throw in better suspension, KYB forks and their new works shock. TM would be my 125/144 choice.
Title: TM Racing History
Post by: TMKIWI on September 28, 2012, 02:33:21 AM


Sex on Wheels. ;D

The beauty of the TM & KTM 144's is they are purpose built bikes not bored out 125's.
Check specs below.

MX 144



Technical detailed
Engine: 2T TM RACING


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Bore and Stroke: 56 x 58,2             (54 x 54.5)


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Displacement: 143,35cc                   (123.5cc)


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Compression ratio: N.D.


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Kw power: N.D.


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Intake: V-Force Reed valve


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Fuel system: Keihin PWK 38 Carburettor


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Fuel type: Unleaded fuel / 3,5% Mix oil


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Ignition type: Kokusan CDI Electronic with variable advance with two selectable maps


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Primary drive: Straight ? tooth gear


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Cluth: Multiple-disk in oil-bath with hydraulic control


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Gear: 5 gears


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Cooler System: Coolant liquid with pump


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Frame: Alluminium perimetral


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Front fork: Marzocchi USD 50mm


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Rear shock: Sachs Boge (optional Ohlins o TM )


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Front tyre: 80 / 100 x 21


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Rear tyre: 100 / 90 x 19


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Front brake: Braking wave Disk 270 mm. With Nissin pump and caliper


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Rear brake: Braking wave Disk 245 mm. With Nissin pump and caliper


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Tank: Plastic (8,7 Litres)


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Weight:


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MX and Enduro 144 cc engine
New cylinder and head
Repositioning of the reed-valve on the crankcase
New carburetor manifold
New airbox manifold
New filter cage
Electronic valve on the exhaust
New crankshaft bearings
New HGS exhaust system
HGS silencer
The carried out modifications will increase power through the whole range.

144cc. TM have not rested on their laurels with their 144cc engine either and the 2013 engine for MX and Enduro models now shares the same TM electronic exhaust-valve system, that has been proven to be a significant aid in engine performance and control at any given rpm, as fitted to the 125cc engines. The adaption of the TMEES system means the 2013 144cc engine features a totally new cylinder and cylinder head along with the all the other changes that have been made to its slightly smaller capacity brethren, changes including new main bearings tailored to the 144cc specific crankshaft with its own specific billet machined connecting rod. A new intake system featuring a new air filter cage and new manifolds for both the airbox and carburetor, these changes are also matched to a revised position of the V-Force reed valve on the crankcases. New programming to the ECU modules for both ignition spark control and powervalve operation also feature combined with alterations to fueling and carburetion setting. As with the 125cc engine the 144cc powerplant will also feature a new specific HGS pipe and silencer combination all working together to once again give significant performance gains in both horsepower and torque throughout the rev range.



Title: TM Racing History
Post by: 2STROKEREVOLUTION on September 28, 2012, 02:33:52 AM
what would be nice is, somehow getting a review of each year of the bikes, and then by each year saying what chanced, what was better/worse than the previous year, and then do that all the way up until the new ones

I am trying mate.
Not alot of info around on TM's. Easier to do with the last few years.
I do have some test rides I will put up.

Good idea.

I'm assuming you are going to add pictures up through 2013. If not, I'll add what i have. It seems 2009 to 2012 haven't changed much, as far as exterior. Zokes forks and Ohlins shock, same plastics. 2013 has new suspension. Whenever you are done I'll add mine. Let you keep it in order. I have a 2012 pic and 2013 spy pics.
Title: TM Racing History
Post by: TMKIWI on September 28, 2012, 02:37:58 AM
Thanks 2strokerevolution.
I will put up the newer models I have just been busy.
There is good info on the changes of the later one's.
I need a rest. :D
I had to print and scan all the pictures yesterday to change them from pdf to jpeg.
It took awhile.
Title: TM Racing History
Post by: 2STROKEREVOLUTION on September 28, 2012, 02:40:20 AM
Thanks 2strokerevolution.
I will put up the newer models I have just been busy.
There is good info on the changes of the later one's.
I need a rest. :D
I had to print and scan all the pictures yesterday to change them from pdf to jpeg.
It took awhile.

You could make it easy and screen shot them. Your keyboard should have a Print Screen button on the top right. Or, a better way, if you have a newer windows OS it should have the Snipping Tool.
Title: TM Racing History
Post by: TMKIWI on September 28, 2012, 02:42:49 AM
You could make it easy and screen shot them. Your keyboard should have a Print Screen button on the top right. Or, a better way, if you have a newer windows OS it should have the Snipping Tool.

My computer is too old. ;D Or is it me. ::)
Title: TM Racing History
Post by: metal_miracle on September 28, 2012, 03:42:48 PM
i acrobat reader 

you can change the pointer to select, and make the picture blue..

and right click the picture and save it as jpg
Title: TM Racing History
Post by: SachsGS on September 28, 2012, 05:16:56 PM
Eprovenzano you are correct, things have gotten WAY out of control in the old workshop. So, in the event that I win the next lottery, expect the following projects (and resto funds) to arrive at your doorstep: 1966 Ducati Mach 1 250, 1968 Zuendapp 100 ISDT, 1975 Carabela 125 MX and 1977 Maico MC 125. Once you've got these done I'll send you some more. ;)

 I once rode an ex ISDE TM 125 and what a gem.
Title: TM Racing History
Post by: Uniflow on October 06, 2012, 01:38:17 AM
TMKIWI, you were not at the First round of the Kiwi VMX?
Title: TM Racing History
Post by: TMKIWI on October 06, 2012, 04:50:37 AM
No. :'(
Unfortunatly a health issue kept me away.
I did start the bike up in the shed yesterday and reved the shit out of it in frustration.
Should be back on a bike in a couple of weeks and will be at the next round.
Title: TM Racing History
Post by: Uniflow on October 06, 2012, 08:32:36 AM
See you there.