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Title: 2012 Monster Energy Cup Track Layout
Post by: factoryX on September 25, 2012, 08:44:05 PM

The track looks sweet, but to me the Talladega turn is kind of pushing it. Do we really need an ultra fast banked turn? 4 strokes have already sort of brought NASCAR to motocross, but no, lets throw in NASCAR orientated track sections. The Joker lane is the equivalent to making a pit stop.
Title: 2012 Monster Energy Cup Track Layout
Post by: cnrcpla on September 25, 2012, 09:06:40 PM
That does look like a pretty cool track. That banked turn does remind me of NASCAR, but it is kind of different and it will be interesting to see it in action.
Title: 2012 Monster Energy Cup Track Layout
Post by: Suzuki TS250/185 on September 25, 2012, 09:27:20 PM
Who cares what kind of track they bugger together? I don't... Just another boring fooper race to me.
Title: 2012 Monster Energy Cup Track Layout
Post by: motoman356 on September 26, 2012, 04:23:00 AM
where have i seen a talledega turn before??? o right on GLEN HELENS FIRST TURN. honestly who wouldnt want a fast huge big turn??? i still dream of riding there on the wide open straight.  and the joker lap is pulled from the Global rallycross series as seen on XGAMES not "left car" racing
Title: 2012 Monster Energy Cup Track Layout
Post by: Stusmoke on September 26, 2012, 01:52:48 PM
I've just got one question for this amazingly exciting track... What the FU** is that? nothing but bowl turns, fart noises and propaganda. "The fans are gonna be really excited" Theres one right here thats not. "all these cool ideas we came up with" Yeah the same ideas that came from a nascar race or like motoman said, from the xgames rallycross.

Making it four troke only wasn't boring enough it seems.
Title: 2012 Monster Energy Cup Track Layout
Post by: nom de guerre on September 26, 2012, 02:10:19 PM
I like it enough I guess... a little different than the cookie cutter trax that prevail during regular supercross season. I am not the biggest SX fan around, but this will do as a "fix" for now...
Title: 2012 Monster Energy Cup Track Layout
Post by: Logan Dewey on September 26, 2012, 02:38:05 PM
I don't like the joker lane but otherwise looks amazing!
Title: 2012 Monster Energy Cup Track Layout
Post by: scotty dog on September 26, 2012, 09:38:34 PM
I think it's cool, would love to be able to watch it, with the volume down of course :D :D
Title: 2012 Monster Energy Cup Track Layout
Post by: cnrcpla on September 27, 2012, 12:30:07 AM
It's better than the tracks I have seen in the past...
Title: 2012 Monster Energy Cup Track Layout
Post by: 2STROKEREVOLUTION on September 27, 2012, 11:03:04 PM
That track looks cool. We'll have to see how it is in real life. That track was good last year. MX will always be better, imp, since it is outdoors with terrain. SX from the get-go was a money machine, pack as many fans into a stadium to watch dirt bikes race on a fake dirt course.

If you can't enjoy watching dirt bikes, no matter what stroke, you have your own problems to deal with. Yes, I would prefer 2-strokes (for technology and slightly more exciting at times) but I love dirt bikes period. Next time WEC, GNCC, etc gets good TV coverage I will watch that instead.
Title: 2012 Monster Energy Cup Track Layout
Post by: nom de guerre on September 27, 2012, 11:48:50 PM
^^^^^ well said!
Title: 2012 Monster Energy Cup Track Layout
Post by: Suzuki TS250/185 on September 28, 2012, 12:31:18 AM
Watching 4 strokes race is pure boring.... No matter how many inflatable cans of carbonated slop they set up around the track, it's just another mushy Fooper race. No matter how many fireworks they set off, it's just another mushy Fooper race...

It's nothing exciting.
Title: 2012 Monster Energy Cup Track Layout
Post by: Stusmoke on September 28, 2012, 12:45:18 AM
When you watch the 2005 supercross series and then watch the 2012, its like watching a man smash a watermelon over his head repeatedly. Bowl turns and a couple of rhythm sections is all these porky foopers can handle so thats what they put in and its boring to watch for me. There used to be 180 degree corners, you used to have to square your berms, abuse the clutch and fight tooth and nail for position. There was a lot more rider involved in winning than bike.

All I see now is Ryan Villipoto getting the holeshot thanks to his insane horsepower and staying up front. Its more bike than rider cos they're all so bloody good at these bowl turns and rhythm sections and theres alot less potential for mistakes. It is by this logic that I base my previous conclusion: Four stroke supercross is boring to me.
Title: 2012 Monster Energy Cup Track Layout
Post by: factoryX on September 28, 2012, 12:46:50 AM
Effectively a Monster Truck rally with 60ft flame throwers and hot sponsor chicks.
Title: 2012 Monster Energy Cup Track Layout
Post by: Stusmoke on September 28, 2012, 12:52:10 AM
The close up of the chick holding the 30 second board is the only reason I would watch foopercross these days :P
Title: 2012 Monster Energy Cup Track Layout
Post by: TMKIWI on September 28, 2012, 02:41:32 AM
Quote from: Stusmoke on September 28, 2012, 07:52:10 AM
The close up of the chick holding the 30 second board is the only reason I would watch foopercross these days :P

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Title: 2012 Monster Energy Cup Track Layout
Post by: nom de guerre on September 28, 2012, 01:59:57 PM
With the exception of TS who will still be watching his tired old copy of "On Any Sunday" on Beta cassette... The day that this airs, all of you will watch(recorded at least)... Then come back here and talk crap... Complete with juevie interpretations of it all too.

I have a fairly high disdain for the indoors, no matter what the powerplant is... But, I will take this broadcast and all others. This sure beats the days of "Motoworld" or "1-900-INF-MOTO" or old ABC broadcast of "Superbikers".

As a certified MX junkie, I will take what I can get...
Title: 2012 Monster Energy Cup Track Layout
Post by: Suzuki TS250/185 on September 28, 2012, 04:11:46 PM
Hey I'm a racing junkie too... I'll watch almost anything race.

Even those riding mower races can be pretty close, and entertaining in their own right. My only objection comes when I see something that's called "Dirtbike Racing" when in fact it's some lesser, "Fooper" version of itself...

I like all kinds of motor racing, just don't tell me "dirtbikes" and then give me "lawnmowers".

The 2005 races are much more exciting than the 2012 ones becasue everything about racing has had to be dulled at the edge to allow for the farty, mushy machines. To me, it just doesn't add up to the best of racing, and the "Mushy Million" doesn't make it any more exciting.

100% 4 Stroke racing sucks.