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Two Stroke Motocross Forum => Photos & Videos => Topic started by: HondaRider116 on September 02, 2012, 04:39:57 AM

Title: New to the forum... my first Two-Stroke after 6 four-strokes! Need some feedback
Post by: HondaRider116 on September 02, 2012, 04:39:57 AM
Hey guys, I've finally decided to join TSM forum as I have recently got my FIRST ever two-stroke, a stock and like-new 2006 CR250R.

After owning the following four-strokes (long list unfortunately): '07 crf250r, '08 250sxf, '09 kx250f, '06 crf450r, '09 crf450r and finally an '08 Yz250f. After finally returning to a slow, stock yamaha 250f I was fed up with it after only a month, and decided it was the time to change over to the type of bike with a great power-to-weight ratio, easy maintenance and a retarded power output.

I must say it was difficult to find one that wasn't beat on. I was going to get a YZ as I heard they had the best 250, but as a diehard Honda fan I really wanted a clean CR, as they ceased production in '07 and now they are pretty much considered collector's items to some.

Here is my '06, completely stock other than a renthal 50 tooth rear sprocket.


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I've already ridden the bike a few times and wow, she really screams, even unmodified. As I find this model such a classic, my intentions for changes will simply to be making look like RC's CR250 from 2002, the Woody woodpecker honda  ;D

My other dilemma is the exhaust.. the section out the exhaust port is unfortunately rusty and also has a decent-sized dent on the widest section of the header (see the pic). I have the option of getting a full system (FMF or PC??) or grinding the rust off, fixing the dent and painting it over flat black. By the way, can I really fix the dent by filling the header with water and freezing it? Anyone ever done it, will it even work??

Well that's pretty much it, I have done some research on this bike and I am aware of the issues with the electronic power valves and ticking noises as of the '05 model and etc etc.. I need some suggestions for any changes than are "essential" that can be done to overall improve this bike mechanically.

I am also new to two-strokes so I can't say I know them inside-out, and would like to hear some tips/pointers/suggestions/things to watch out for/etc from you guys! Thanks, hope all of you like my new ride!  8)
Title: New to the forum... my first Two-Stroke after 6 four-strokes! Need some feedback
Post by: beaner on September 02, 2012, 10:38:01 AM
Ditch the stock pipe. I like FMF, and it looks like they have an SST for the CR. If it works as well on the CR as it does on my RM, you won't believe the new power.

There are 3 choices, depending on what you're looking for  http://www.fmfracing.com/Products/BikeAsList/2005_HONDA_CR250R
Title: New to the forum... my first Two-Stroke after 6 four-strokes! Need some feedback
Post by: scotty dog on September 02, 2012, 11:26:32 AM
Nice bike, I've got an 05 and fitted an FMF Factory pipe with a shorty, goes pretty good
Title: New to the forum... my first Two-Stroke after 6 four-strokes! Need some feedback
Post by: HondaRider116 on September 02, 2012, 01:40:31 PM
Nice bike, I've got an 05 and fitted an FMF Factory pipe with a shorty, goes pretty good

Doesn't the Factory Fatty rust really quickly? That's what I've heard.. what do you do to prevent it ?
Title: New to the forum... my first Two-Stroke after 6 four-strokes! Need some feedback
Post by: metal_miracle on September 02, 2012, 01:52:45 PM
I am sure there are other sprays or oils you can use but..


what i use is 2 stroke oil ((whats left over in the can))
Title: New to the forum... my first Two-Stroke after 6 four-strokes! Need some feedback
Post by: Charles Owens on September 02, 2012, 02:18:00 PM
Welcome to the site! Good choice on the bike.
The best way I have found for keeping a the raw pipes looking good.. WD-40 and a scotch-brite pad. They are a little more work to keep looking good than a nickel pipe, but they look much better as well (in my opinion).
Title: New to the forum... my first Two-Stroke after 6 four-strokes! Need some feedback
Post by: HondaRider116 on September 02, 2012, 04:58:20 PM
Welcome to the site! Good choice on the bike.
The best way I have found for keeping a the raw pipes looking good.. WD-40 and a scotch-brite pad. They are a little more work to keep looking good than a nickel pipe, but they look much better as well (in my opinion).

Thanks Charles!
Title: New to the forum... my first Two-Stroke after 6 four-strokes! Need some feedback
Post by: Logan Dewey on September 02, 2012, 06:42:34 PM
It's such a beaut!
Title: New to the forum... my first Two-Stroke after 6 four-strokes! Need some feedback
Post by: scotty dog on September 02, 2012, 10:41:30 PM
Welcome to the site! Good choice on the bike.
The best way I have found for keeping a the raw pipes looking good.. WD-40 and a scotch-brite pad. They are a little more work to keep looking good than a nickel pipe, but they look much better as well (in my opinion).
What Charles said, they are more work but look better i think, i use a light coat of grease if its going to sit for a while. Also ditch the carby, i heard an 06+ KTM 250 sx carb works really well, turns it into a beast.
Title: New to the forum... my first Two-Stroke after 6 four-strokes! Need some feedback
Post by: HondaRider116 on September 02, 2012, 10:54:30 PM
Welcome to the site! Good choice on the bike.
The best way I have found for keeping a the raw pipes looking good.. WD-40 and a scotch-brite pad. They are a little more work to keep looking good than a nickel pipe, but they look much better as well (in my opinion).
What Charles said, they are more work but look better i think, i use a light coat of grease if its going to sit for a while. Also ditch the carby, i heard an 06+ KTM 250 sx carb works really well, turns it into a beast.

Yeah I heard about those carbs too. Either that or a Keihin PWK air striker.
Title: New to the forum... my first Two-Stroke after 6 four-strokes! Need some feedback
Post by: scotty dog on September 02, 2012, 11:08:57 PM
Yeah thats the one, $160 from JD jetting all set up, im gonna do it soon, mine does go well but it would be nice if it ran near perfect, especiallly down low, its a bit sluggish
Title: New to the forum... my first Two-Stroke after 6 four-strokes! Need some feedback
Post by: citabjockey on September 02, 2012, 11:47:14 PM
In case you were still considering it, don't try the frozen water trick. The freezing water will push EVERYWHERE its touching -- not just the dent. There are pipe repair guys that take care of that sort of thing for a living and not too expensive (probably less than an FMF pipe but not "free").
Title: New to the forum... my first Two-Stroke after 6 four-strokes! Need some feedback
Post by: _X_ on September 07, 2012, 12:28:38 AM
I have this bike and use the pc works/shorty moto tassinari combo works well with stock jetting. plenty of mid top. i have lots of battle damage to pipe and barley notice it. mind you no real large dents.
Title: New to the forum... my first Two-Stroke after 6 four-strokes! Need some feedback
Post by: motoman356 on September 09, 2012, 05:45:47 AM
everything ive ever heard on the cr said stay with the stock pipe. larocco and RC used it.http://www.smartsynthetics.com/images/MLaRoccoBike2005.jpg

but id add a diff silencer vforce
Title: New to the forum... my first Two-Stroke after 6 four-strokes! Need some feedback
Post by: HondaRider116 on September 10, 2012, 12:28:06 AM
everything ive ever heard on the cr said stay with the stock pipe. larocco and RC used it.http://www.smartsynthetics.com/images/MLaRoccoBike2005.jpg

but id add a diff silencer vforce

You've got a point, you're also not the first person to tell me to stay stock and not spend 350$ on a full system.. I was thinking about a FMF Powercore II silencer but I'm not sure..? I heard an FMF Shorty amplifies sound a lot
Title: New to the forum... my first Two-Stroke after 6 four-strokes! Need some feedback
Post by: motoman356 on September 14, 2012, 04:16:37 AM
i shorty is a must have on a 125 but for a 250 a shorty would only benefit the bottom end and if you were riding tight sx style tracks. a turbine core2 would be better for outdoor riding.
Title: New to the forum... my first Two-Stroke after 6 four-strokes! Need some feedback
Post by: theoutlawkenny on September 22, 2012, 07:57:19 PM
nice bike bro i hve a cr 250 04 model ..  :D
Title: New to the forum... my first Two-Stroke after 6 four-strokes! Need some feedback
Post by: msmola2002 on September 22, 2012, 10:12:09 PM
http://piperepair.com/index.htm have not used them - had a banged up pipe but found a take off oem rather cheap so can't vouch for them.
Title: New to the forum... my first Two-Stroke after 6 four-strokes! Need some feedback
Post by: HondaRider116 on September 22, 2012, 11:33:39 PM
http://piperepair.com/index.htm have not used them - had a banged up pipe but found a take off oem rather cheap so can't vouch for them.

Exactly, like you I'm going to try to find a decent shape OEM pipe or maybe an aftermarket system for cheap
Title: New to the forum... my first Two-Stroke after 6 four-strokes! Need some feedback
Post by: HondaRider116 on September 24, 2012, 04:31:29 AM
Here is the progress so far. MUCH cleaner than before, took it essentially down to the frame and scrubbed everything spotless. Slapped on some new Bridgestone M402's, installed the '09 CRF number plate from my old 450 (looks alot better than the boring square plate in my opinion) and there's more parts i'm awaiting as well. Still have to grind the rust off the header.


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Title: New to the forum... my first Two-Stroke after 6 four-strokes! Need some feedback
Post by: 2STROKEREVOLUTION on September 24, 2012, 11:34:45 PM
In my opinion, it is worth getting a FMF pipe just for the shear fact that the OEM Jap pipes are ugly. It will give you 95% of the looks of a Factory, all of the functionality and none of the maintenance. I would guess it gives more power than the stock pipe, or different power. Just a guess, the pipe shown on Laracco's might just be a custom pipe made by Honda. Unless you have something saying it is stock.

Other than that, VForce reeds could help. The Woody Woodpecker graphics would be sick. I always wanted a CR250 with those.
Title: New to the forum... my first Two-Stroke after 6 four-strokes! Need some feedback
Post by: HondaRider116 on October 11, 2012, 04:55:38 AM
Update! Always glad to receive a box of new stuff for the bike  ;D


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This is the old stock throttle tube ... Don't know how I didn't notice while riding


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Did something about the rusty OEM pipe. Dad giving me a hand in this one


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Finally grinded and sanded the rust off (Did even a little more sanding after this pic was taken). Some fresh gaskets and springs, why not


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A couple coats of matte stock-looking heat resistant paint


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Wow, it looks like it just came off the showroom floor  :D


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And finally some fresh graphics from DecalWorks! TSM.com logo on the air box  8)


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Title: New to the forum... my first Two-Stroke after 6 four-strokes! Need some feedback
Post by: KXPegger on October 11, 2012, 05:38:41 AM
Wow! I've never seen a throttle tube that bad before! Two strokes require more braking, shifting and work overall but they are competitive against four strokes with twice the displacement! I own two strokes and four strokes but seem to be on the two strokes more often! Welcome aboard!
Title: New to the forum... my first Two-Stroke after 6 four-strokes! Need some feedback
Post by: HondaRider116 on October 11, 2012, 04:36:07 PM
Wow! I've never seen a throttle tube that bad before! Two strokes require more braking, shifting and work overall but they are competitive against four strokes with twice the displacement! I own two strokes and four strokes but seem to be on the two strokes more often! Welcome aboard!

Thanks KXPegger! I'm loving the bike so far, I did notice that is more work and does throw me around much more only being 150pounds (I still have to set my suspension up), but it makes me go harder on the track, definitely a bike that suits me
Title: New to the forum... my first Two-Stroke after 6 four-strokes! Need some feedback
Post by: Charles Owens on October 11, 2012, 05:44:56 PM
Looks great, thanks for the TSM love! :)
Title: New to the forum... my first Two-Stroke after 6 four-strokes! Need some feedback
Post by: scotty dog on October 12, 2012, 01:19:53 PM
Nice work man that looks real nice
Title: New to the forum... my first Two-Stroke after 6 four-strokes! Need some feedback
Post by: Super Trucker on October 13, 2012, 06:40:55 PM
Congrats on the clean cr250 find, there,s a few out there yet. I know a local expert who has 3 cr250,s. The rider and his dad say the rad valve has a good low to mid increase, much better than the vforce which is better than stock. He runs a stock cylinder. I would get a pc pipe, most use the shorty silencer to gain low to mid quickness, the rad valve will give ya alot more low to mid than a shorty thow.  You could go with pc,s McGrath replica porting, with traction it,s a 450 killer they say. The stock cr like a mix of race fuel, squish band is a little off. Throttle jockey make the retro graghics, 1986 des nations, 1995 1-800-collect,etc. I think the stock graphics look great.