Post by: KXwestYZ on June 21, 2012, 11:38:02 PM
Post by: KXwestYZ on June 21, 2012, 11:40:32 PM
Post by: twosmoke595 on June 22, 2012, 12:25:30 AM
for the record I still prefer my Carb... cos I love the hit, each to their own though hey..
the cool thinig about the fi is that you can tune it the way you want, so whoever buys a bike can have it hit hard, or have it smoothed out
Post by: Suzuki TS250/185 on June 22, 2012, 01:27:42 AM
Post by: Jeram on June 22, 2012, 02:17:02 AM
Post by: SachsGS on June 22, 2012, 03:16:26 AM
Post by: Suzuki TS250/185 on June 22, 2012, 04:36:21 AM
BUT
It's still not as good as the real thing, UNLESS the thrill for you is the fact that your bike is environmental. If you are looking for the best performance... then it's not so great.
Post by: Jeram on June 22, 2012, 05:24:18 AM
Let's agree to disagree
Post by: TotalNZ on June 22, 2012, 06:02:51 AM
Post by: 2T Institute on June 22, 2012, 10:56:12 AM
Post by: scotty dog on June 22, 2012, 11:13:03 AM
Sounds and looks pretty awesome pretty awesome to me........What a beast
I want one
Post by: citabjockey on June 22, 2012, 03:22:03 PM
Also relative to the comments about a FI bike not being a "real" two stroke, I don't buy that either. The fuel will burn properly at 15:1 -- it doesn't care one wit about how it is mixed as long as its at the spark plug at that ratio. FI can provide more accurate metering at all rpms and throttle settings if done right but replacing a carb with a proper FI should just make a bike run all around incrementally better (again, if its done right with all the appropriate sensors, yada yada).
And yes, FI/DI is more complex. But then again so are power valves, water pumps, disk brakes and all the stuff my 1973 yamaha 360 doesn't have and still seem to have been made to work ok on today's bikes. Just my $0.02...
Cleaning up a 2T motor would allow it to be a modern dual sport "smoker" and that is MY holy grail.
for the record I still prefer my Carb... cos I love the hit, each to their own though hey..
the cool thinig about the fi is that you can tune it the way you want, so whoever buys a bike can have it hit hard, or have it smoothed out
Post by: SachsGS on June 22, 2012, 03:26:23 PM
Direct injection will greatly reduce scavenging losses and you will see a significant improvement in performance.
Post by: citabjockey on June 22, 2012, 04:15:30 PM
The guy keeps talking about keeping the front end down. wonder if its possible to put some sort of accelerometer and/or gyro system in it so it would not let the front end higher than a set amount (45 degrees?) before it starts cutting power. Then you could pin it all you want and never worry about a loop. Wonder if anyone has ever tried that before?
Post by: twosmoke595 on June 22, 2012, 05:00:38 PM
One idea for the real gizmo geek on this bike...
The guy keeps talking about keeping the front end down. wonder if its possible to put some sort of accelerometer and/or gyro system in it so it would not let the front end higher than a set amount (45 degrees?) before it starts cutting power. Then you could pin it all you want and never worry about a loop. Wonder if anyone has ever tried that before?
sounds like some sort of traction control to me lol
but i think that would be kinda hard to do, i'm surprised something like that isn't on the street legal sport bikes
Post by: MXLord327 on June 22, 2012, 06:56:38 PM
Post by: metal_miracle on June 22, 2012, 08:17:05 PM
One idea for the real gizmo geek on this bike...
The guy keeps talking about keeping the front end down. wonder if its possible to put some sort of accelerometer and/or gyro system in it so it would not let the front end higher than a set amount (45 degrees?) before it starts cutting power. Then you could pin it all you want and never worry about a loop. Wonder if anyone has ever tried that before?
Nice idea But it would only be useful on starts. It would be real scary jumpin nose high, and having bike die
Post by: Jeram on June 23, 2012, 01:50:26 AM
when this value is reached the ignition switches to a second programable ignition map which is usually retarded to kill power
Post by: citabjockey on June 23, 2012, 03:55:09 AM
Citibjockey - I work in electronics, and one of my customers makes accelerometers for applications from kid's toys to missile guidance, so I am absolutely sure it could be done through a programmable digital ignition fairly simply. I'm just not sure you would want something that would cut off your thrust when you did not expect it. Maybe on a road racer, but I could see some problems on a dirt bike.
Post by: Stusmoke on June 23, 2012, 04:06:08 AM
Post by: SachsGS on June 23, 2012, 04:12:01 PM
If you coupled the rear brake with the "angle modulator" the wheelies would be endless.
Post by: Stusmoke on June 24, 2012, 01:39:28 AM