Post by: coblefutch on June 09, 2012, 03:20:07 PM
So I thought it would be a good thing for everyone to post one thing that they bought that worked beyond expectations and one thing that was a big disapointment.
I will get it started. I race enduro and hare scrambles in the midwest, it gets super humid late in July August. I had yet to finish a race with my goggles still on my head due to steaming up so badly. After getting a tree limb in my eye my wife bought me that little Haber Eliminator fan that goes in your goggles, the price was kinda steep was my first though and I was going to return them and get a new front tire instead but at her insistance I tried them out and I have been very pleasantly suprised the keep the steam in check and I have finished every race since with my goggles on. GOOD STUFF http://www.habervision.com/product/HaberEliminator.aspx
For my disapointment, Michelin Starcross intermediate rear tire, Great grip but it chunked off over half the knobs in the FIRST race.
For a added bonus I will throw in another good Item. Although I didn't purchase, it was on my bike when I bought it. It has proven worthwhile and I would buy it. Toyko Mods 10x ignition. For woods riding it is a very cool thing. I can switch between 2 differnt map with a handlebar switch One map is allways the aggressive map but you can choose the other from 9 different settings. Unlike many other things you can actually feel a big difference between the mild and aggressive map. I use the mild map in the tight gnarly stuff and the agressive in the open. Makes the yz easier to manage in the tight stuff especialy late in the race when this old man gets tired. Pricey but like I said it is a differnce that you will actualy feel. http://www.tokyomods.com/igntions/igntions.html#ecuign
Post by: gpnewhouse7 on June 09, 2012, 08:47:18 PM
For my negatives have two, one being the set of arttrax tyres I bought which were absolutely rubbish giving poor traction to start with followed by being worn out completely after 2 days hard riding and the other negative is for the full fmf fatty pipe and shorty silencer I bought for my old rm125 which made no difference what so ever compared to the stock pipe also it wouldn't interchange with the stock pipe at all so I could only have all fmf or all stock.
Post by: SachsGS on June 10, 2012, 12:36:06 AM
Post by: coblefutch on June 10, 2012, 12:48:16 AM
Post by: coblefutch on June 10, 2012, 02:21:05 AM
Well I'll start on a positive note. When I ride it tends to be for a long time, either when I'm racing at my local hare an hound enduros or when I go on practice days at motocross tracks with friends. Anyways I always used to get really bad blisters which ruined the fun of the day however I recently switched to the protaper pillow top grips, I haven't had a blister since (sometimes I'll wear them down to the throttle tube on where my thumb goes in one day though so that's a bit of a downer) so big plus for me.
For my negatives have two, one being the set of arttrax tyres I bought which were absolutely rubbish giving poor traction to start with followed by being worn out completely after 2 days hard riding and the other negative is for the full fmf fatty pipe and shorty silencer I bought for my old rm125 which made no difference what so ever compared to the stock pipe also it wouldn't interchange with the stock pipe at all so I could only have all fmf or all stock.
Pro Taper pillow tops are the only grips I will use too.
Post by: racer142 on June 10, 2012, 02:43:53 AM
Post by: SachsGS on June 10, 2012, 02:45:08 PM
Post by: rmpilot on June 10, 2012, 06:27:58 PM
something thats work is is metzler mc 4 tires. they just last and last.
Post by: lauterbacher on June 10, 2012, 07:57:15 PM
Post by: ford832 on June 10, 2012, 09:17:25 PM
Stuff that doesn't work?I dislike Michelin tires.
Have you ever tried an s12 rear?My favorite combo is an S12 rear with an M12 front.That said,an M12 rear is quite possibly the worst tire made in the history of dirt biking.The rest of the Michelin line is nothing to write home about imo,but i swear by the m12f/s12r combo.
As for stuff that doesn't work around here-most of the aboriginals
Post by: scotty dog on June 10, 2012, 10:55:44 PM
Here tooStuff that doesn't work?I dislike Michelin tires.
Have you ever tried an s12 rear?My favorite combo is an S12 rear with an M12 front.That said,an M12 rear is quite possibly the worst tire made in the history of dirt biking.The rest of the Michelin line is nothing to write home about imo,but i swear by the m12f/s12r combo.
As for stuff that doesn't work around here-most of the aboriginals
......... i dont think i've bought anything that hasnt worked to my satisfaction, maybe coz i dont buy much, the only gripe i suppose would be my kick start hits my FMF pipe, Tried to adjust it but it only goes on one way really and can be a bit annoying as it vibrates a bit.Oh! Pre oiled filters are shit i think, the cheap ones ya buy at your local auto parts store, not worth two knobs of goat shit
Post by: SachsGS on June 11, 2012, 12:43:15 AM
I'm definitely old school,Bell helmets,Sidi boots,Metzler/Pirelli/Dunlop tires,Bel Ray filter oil etc.The Euro bikes I ride typically come with all the high end components so don't need a lot there.
I've got a CZ 125 that I traded for a case of beer over a decade ago and I love that thing warts and all.The Checz's got it right so many years ago.
Post by: beaner on June 11, 2012, 12:54:32 AM
Ignition (brand) air filters. They're cheaper than even the cheap preoiled ones, but when you take it out of the bag for the first time, you can feel that it's a good filter, and they last. It's also a Canadian company, so I don't mind supporting them.
I bought a $20 pair of ARC padded riding shorts for a little extra protection. The padding is well done, and the added bonus is no monkey butt or sore cheeks after a few hours in the woods. I'm very happy with them.
What I didn't like was a sixsixone pressure suit. I got a good deal on it, but if I paid full price, I wouldn't be too happy. Fit wasn't good, it was heavy and uncomfortable, and that back protection was ridiculous. I sold it for what I paid and bought something else.
Post by: ford832 on June 11, 2012, 01:19:14 AM
I've got a CZ 125 that I traded for a case of beer over a decade ago and I love that thing warts and all.The Checz's got it right so many years ago.
The other guy got the best part of the deal
.Years ago I traded a Mercedes 190 that needed a master cylinder,a 230d with a blown engine,a 230 d with a rotten frame but a good engine and a 190 4cyl gas engine that had been rebuilt by Isnor Motors Benz in Halifax for.............a bag of pork chops. There's a story behind it..........but the chops were gooooooodddd.
Post by: coblefutch on June 11, 2012, 02:50:42 AM
Post by: twosmoke595 on June 11, 2012, 03:14:46 AM
2. Alpinstar tech 7's are a great boot, kinda pricey as well 299.99 when i bought them, they brake in pretty fast i think, very comfortable, and have metal buckles that dont snap off in 2 uses like the crappy fox boots i had before
3. Oneal gear/helmet - Series 5/7/8 helmets, hardware/mayhem gear all reasonably priced, good fit, looks great even after many many washes, holds up really well, colors dont fade
my personal product reviews i've done
https://www.facebook.com/notes/tcg-racin/tcg-racin-product-review-maxima-foam-filter-treatment/354634324590746
https://www.facebook.com/notes/tcg-racin/tcg-racin-product-review-oneal-series-5-zombie-helmet/354632431257602
https://www.facebook.com/notes/tcg-racin/tcg-racin-product-review-leatt-adventure-pro-chest-protector-white/354630664591112
4. lucas low smoke premix works well, reasonably priced, never had any problems running it, even though smokers are cool, we try and keep the smoke down as much as possible, even though it only reduces it a little, also it makes the fart riders perk up their noses and come see what's smelling so good!!
Post by: TMKIWI on June 11, 2012, 08:37:13 AM
Bad stuff. S12 rears. Sorry ford but I lost so many knobs on 1 ride I am not going back. Whinging Yamaha riders
.Fly gloves. Fly boots.
Post by: VintageBlueSmoke on June 11, 2012, 11:33:59 AM
I truely buy into the old Bell ad "If you have a $10 head, wear a $10 helmet..." but the past few years, I've had a $10 head. Last year, I got an One Industries helment, the cheapest they have and on sale. I think it is the Carbon series. It is surprisingly good quality, I like it better than my new, very expensive Answer. I will be wearing them back to back this weekend (two days of racing). This isn't really a bad so much as a I couldn't get it to work for me but , andy M2R helmet. I just couldn't get it to fit, andy size, andy model.
Chest protectors are all the same THESE DAYS (vintage stuff varied widely. My 25 year old MSR is the same as my 2.5 year old Ocelot. If you don't want your friends to see you wear Ocelot gear, peal the stickers or wear it under your jersey.
Speaking of Vintage, I swear by the Moose EZ clutch. Sure, it's ugly but it is a simple device that makes the clutch of an old bike pull like a modern YZ125 with a bad cable. I can 2 finger pull my RM400 and Penton and all my Husky's are single finger!
I am very unhappy with my EVS RS8 knee braces. They work great, are comfortable, and weight about nothing but...the traps connect with crappy little buckles that broke the first lap! My short term solution was duct tape but long term was to poprivit the buckle and just thread the velcro. It is a little more difficult but they don't come off or shift position any more. What is worse was I tried to contact EVS about it and have not had a reply which brings me to my other thing with EVS...they contacted ME about their new neck brace several years ago and I put an order in except it wasn't out yet and didn't get out for 6 more months. When it finally did, I was (am) very happy with it but they could have told me that I'd be waiting so long. I went the entire season without it.
That's enough from me for now...
Post by: Stusmoke on June 11, 2012, 11:48:08 AM
Post by: 2T Institute on June 11, 2012, 12:15:52 PM
For a added bonus I will throw in another good Item. Although I didn't purchase, it was on my bike when I bought it. It has proven worthwhile and I would buy it. Toyko Mods 10x ignition. For woods riding it is a very cool thing. I can switch between 2 differnt map with a handlebar switch One map is allways the aggressive map but you can choose the other from 9 different settings. Unlike many other things you can actually feel a big difference between the mild and aggressive map. I use the mild map in the tight gnarly stuff and the agressive in the open. Makes the yz easier to manage in the tight stuff especialy late in the race when this old man gets tired. Pricey but like I said it is a differnce that you will actualy feel. http://www.tokyomods.com/igntions/igntions.html#ecuign
A fancy way of moving the stator.
Post by: rmpilot on June 11, 2012, 02:21:54 PM
I bought MSR riding underware 25 years ago, and I still use them. I bought Shift riding underware last year to replace them and they are trashed and I had to go back to my 25 year old MSR. The padding folds up in them and it takes 15 minutes to flatten it out to wear them but the elastic is still good and they support the important parts well...still.
I truely buy into the old Bell ad "If you have a $10 head, wear a $10 helmet..." but the past few years, I've had a $10 head. Last year, I got an One Industries helment, the cheapest they have and on sale. I think it is the Carbon series. It is surprisingly good quality, I like it better than my new, very expensive Answer. I will be wearing them back to back this weekend (two days of racing). This isn't really a bad so much as a I couldn't get it to work for me but , andy M2R helmet. I just couldn't get it to fit, andy size, andy model.
Chest protectors are all the same THESE DAYS (vintage stuff varied widely. My 25 year old MSR is the same as my 2.5 year old Ocelot. If you don't want your friends to see you wear Ocelot gear, peal the stickers or wear it under your jersey.
Speaking of Vintage, I swear by the Moose EZ clutch. Sure, it's ugly but it is a simple device that makes the clutch of an old bike pull like a modern YZ125 with a bad cable. I can 2 finger pull my RM400 and Penton and all my Husky's are single finger!
I am very unhappy with my EVS RS8 knee braces. They work great, are comfortable, and weight about nothing but...the traps connect with crappy little buckles that broke the first lap! My short term solution was duct tape but long term was to poprivit the buckle and just thread the velcro. It is a little more difficult but they don't come off or shift position any more. What is worse was I tried to contact EVS about it and have not had a reply which brings me to my other thing with EVS...they contacted ME about their new neck brace several years ago and I put an order in except it wasn't out yet and didn't get out for 6 more months. When it finally did, I was (am) very happy with it but they could have told me that I'd be waiting so long. I went the entire season without it.
That's enough from me for now...
So those ez pulls work? ive been debating trying one on my yz 490
Post by: VintageBlueSmoke on June 11, 2012, 05:26:08 PM
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So those ez pulls work? ive been debating trying one on my yz 490
Yep. And pretty good too. I zip tie 'em to the handlebars to keep them from flapping about and to keep the cable in a nice bend. They have 3 settings but I always put it on the easiest. I don't know why you wouldn't want it on the easiest.
Post by: snook620 on June 11, 2012, 05:47:24 PM
Post by: eprovenzano on June 11, 2012, 06:05:08 PM
Post by: ford832 on June 11, 2012, 11:30:17 PM
Good stuff: Shark helmets. Very Comfy, light and have very good ventilation. TCX boots. XC12 front tyres.
Bad stuff. S12 rears. Sorry ford but I lost so many knobs on 1 ride I am not going back. Whinging Yamaha riders
Fly gloves. Fly boots.
Really?Wow,I've never seen anyone have that issue and lots of people here run them-on lots of shale and granite too.I regularly got almost a full season out of one.Bizarre.Maybe you shouldn't run 25 psi in it
The maxxis and Kenda's most rave about I find shed most of their knobs in 1 or 2 rides
Post by: TMKIWI on June 13, 2012, 08:22:24 AM
Really?Wow,I've never seen anyone have that issue and lots of people here run them-on lots of shale and granite too.I regularly got almost a full season out of one.Bizarre.Maybe you shouldn't run 25 psi in it
Yep. But to be honest at the time Michelin had changed the factory in the Philipeans where they were built.
The quality control was crap. This was about 5 years ago and everyone in NZ was having problems.
Michelin sorted the problem but I have just not had the urge to try 1 again. Maybe I should.
Post by: coblefutch on June 13, 2012, 10:26:55 AM
For a added bonus I will throw in another good Item. Although I didn't purchase, it was on my bike when I bought it. It has proven worthwhile and I would buy it. Toyko Mods 10x ignition. For woods riding it is a very cool thing. I can switch between 2 differnt map with a handlebar switch One map is allways the aggressive map but you can choose the other from 9 different settings. Unlike many other things you can actually feel a big difference between the mild and aggressive map. I use the mild map in the tight gnarly stuff and the agressive in the open. Makes the yz easier to manage in the tight stuff especialy late in the race when this old man gets tired. Pricey but like I said it is a differnce that you will actualy feel. http://www.tokyomods.com/igntions/igntions.html#ecuign
A fancy way of moving the stator.
Yes but, with the switch on the bars you can instantly change between 2 different stator positions! Retarded and advanced..
On a motocross track, not much of an advatage in a gnarly 3 hour national enduro after 3 days of rain, it's a big deal..
Post by: beaner on June 13, 2012, 01:51:33 PM
I like a quick throttle. The quicker, the better, and roll on throttle seems to be the only one that makes one for a 2 stroke race bike.
http://www.rollonthrottle.com/
He says it's only 10%, but it makes the difference I was looking for.
Post by: TotalNZ on June 14, 2012, 12:15:27 AM
Yeah give them another shot, S12's front and rear or MS3's both great tyres i reckon. Along with Pirelli MXextrasReally?Wow,I've never seen anyone have that issue and lots of people here run them-on lots of shale and granite too.I regularly got almost a full season out of one.Bizarre.Maybe you shouldn't run 25 psi in it
Yep. But to be honest at the time Michelin had changed the factory in the Philipeans where they were built.
The quality control was crap. This was about 5 years ago and everyone in NZ was having problems.
Michelin sorted the problem but I have just not had the urge to try 1 again. Maybe I should.
Post by: ford832 on June 14, 2012, 01:48:00 AM
Yep. But to be honest at the time Michelin had changed the factory in the Philipeans where they were built.
The quality control was crap. This was about 5 years ago and everyone in NZ was having problems.
Michelin sorted the problem but I have just not had the urge to try 1 again. Maybe I should.
Around here most that use them use the S12-XC.I'm certainly no Michelin fan and it took a lot for me to try one.Back in my RZ days I switched from Pirelli Demons to Dunlop K591's to Michelin Hi Sports and swore afterwards I'd never use another Michelin tire.Dirt wise though,I've yet to find a tire I like more than an S12 rear.The M12 rear is the worst tire ever built imo.
Like totalnz,I like the s12 front but here there is alot of goo but also a lot of hardpack and i find the s12 front knobs walk and tend to want to let go on harder surfaces.The M12 front doesn't do this and works well in the soft as well.S12 rear,M12 front-I always try different stuff but keep coming back to that.Here's a review I'd take with a grain of salt,the guys a bit of a cheerleader.
http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=8&ved=0CG0QtwIwBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dhk8f8NlUD-4&ei=h3_aT4P7BMbf0QGEq-C9Ag&usg=AFQjCNHg952v1sq4YV-jPpr3XqODdEfYcA
Post by: conbread on June 14, 2012, 01:51:21 AM
Post by: teampryor on June 14, 2012, 01:56:06 AM
Works Connection clutch perches and their radiator braces.
No Toil air filter oil and cleaner
Motul 800 2T premix
Motul Transoil 10w 40 with esther
Suprisingly good Outlaw/Pit Posse super seal air filters
Bridgestone M203/204
Vortex sprockets RK chains either MXZ or MXU
V Force 3 reeds
Bad
anything made by PC Racing, but especially their air filters.
Outlaw/ Pit Posse clutch perch they use a proprietary lever that breaks off easily.
MGX graphics peel and delaminate
Sloow to complete too.HOUR METERS doesnt seem to matter which brand they just quit when they are ready
Anyone try the GET hour meters?
Post by: racer142 on June 14, 2012, 02:40:56 AM
Post by: scotty dog on June 14, 2012, 03:49:52 AM
Shift pants, ripped the arse out on the first ride
Fox boots, cant remember the ones but all the stitching came apart and the plastic bit started crackin up and kept catchin on the frame
and any form of roll off!! maybe i just have bad luck with those but, even sticky tape wouldnt keep the covers on and the film in
Post by: factoryX on June 14, 2012, 04:22:59 AM
Pro Taper Contour bars
Pro Taper pillow top grips
Works Connection oil cap/Rad braces
ATF type F (Gear and fork Fluid, lmfao)
Regina chain
Primary Drive sprockets? lmfao.
Thor Gear seem to work out great.
Aplinestar tech 7's Gel, they're older but extremely comfortable.
Tusk Front Rotor
Bad:
MSR Perch/levers
Tusk clutch
Fox = Crap
MSR gear, seems to getting cheaper as of late, but then again everything is.
And as of today Ebay's new look.
Post by: TotalNZ on June 14, 2012, 04:24:19 AM
Try the MS3 front with the S12 rear, the MS front works well over wide range of terrain.
Yep. But to be honest at the time Michelin had changed the factory in the Philipeans where they were built.
The quality control was crap. This was about 5 years ago and everyone in NZ was having problems.
Michelin sorted the problem but I have just not had the urge to try 1 again. Maybe I should.
Around here most that use them use the S12-XC.I'm certainly no Michelin fan and it took a lot for me to try one.Back in my RZ days I switched from Pirelli Demons to Dunlop K591's to Michelin Hi Sports and swore afterwards I'd never use another Michelin tire.Dirt wise though,I've yet to find a tire I like more than an S12 rear.The M12 rear is the worst tire ever built imo.
Like totalnz,I like the s12 front but here there is alot of goo but also a lot of hardpack and i find the s12 front knobs walk and tend to want to let go on harder surfaces.The M12 front doesn't do this and works well in the soft as well.S12 rear,M12 front-I always try different stuff but keep coming back to that.Here's a review I'd take with a grain of salt,the guys a bit of a cheerleader.
http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=8&ved=0CG0QtwIwBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dhk8f8NlUD-4&ei=h3_aT4P7BMbf0QGEq-C9Ag&usg=AFQjCNHg952v1sq4YV-jPpr3XqODdEfYcA
Post by: TMKIWI on June 14, 2012, 09:11:48 AM
Gives good confidence in forest terrain.
Other good things.
RK Chains.
Renthal dual compound grips.
Ariete Goggles, Seam to fit in helmet ports a bit better because they are a bit smaller then Scott/Smiths etc. Good roll off system too.
Bel-Ray foam oil.
Post by: scotty dog on June 14, 2012, 09:26:50 AM
Post by: Stusmoke on June 14, 2012, 09:28:02 AM
after reading a few i remembered,
Shift pants, ripped the arse out on the first ride
Fox boots, cant remember the ones but all the stitching came apart and the plastic bit started crackin up and kept catchin on the frame
and any form of roll off!! maybe i just have bad luck with those but, even sticky tape wouldnt keep the covers on and the film in
I can vouch for the shift pants. My buckle broke itself apart on a tumble so I ended up holding my pants up with a piece of string. Held her up with bailing twine... But then the zipper came off. So yeah, I'd avoid the entry level shift pants.
On a more positive note: My new Oneal Mayhem Oozey pants and jeresy are really well made, really comfortable and durable. Easy to clean aswell. The Oneal element boots I've got had 2 faulty buckles that snapped the pin in them. Might have just been bad luck
Post by: Stusmoke on June 14, 2012, 09:32:06 AM
anyone tried Fasst Flexbars???
Those are the ones for like 400 bucks or something taht you can adjust? I'm not sure but I remember a whole heap of customers raving about them.
Protaper contour bars I can vouch for. My bike flipped, smacked front first into solid dirt then flipped again and landed on its side with forward motion. Not a bend in sight. Really strong bars. The RXT helmet that I'm using and have been using for years is just great. Comfortable, perfect fit and its hit the dirt with enough force to kill me without it. Not a crack. Lots of scratches though
I can also say that Renthal 7/8 bars that I had on my fooper were crap. One minor stack and they were bent to buggery.
Post by: TMKIWI on June 14, 2012, 10:05:41 AM
i dont think anyone could complain about Bel-Ray filter oil could they? apart from the fact its a pain in the arse to get off ya hands
That is why it is so good.
Imagine what it does to dust.
Post by: Stusmoke on June 14, 2012, 10:12:41 AM
Post by: coblefutch on June 14, 2012, 10:33:18 AM
Seems with all brands of pants you get what you pay for.
Post by: Stusmoke on June 14, 2012, 10:42:53 AM
Ditto on the entry level pants. I have had pairs from both MSR and Thor not go the distance. Both were new and the MSR after the first race were shredded not much left but the waistband with some stips of fabric blowing in the wind (good for cooling though) Thor made it to the 2nd race before the ass seam split, and they were baggy to begin with.
Seems with all brands of pants you get what you pay for.
Yeah I hear that. My new Oneal stuff wasn't expensive though and its just fantastic. It airs really well it really hit all the nails on the head. Not out of this world price for a few threads either. Seems everything is built to a price. Except foopers... They're expensive but still a joke right?
Post by: scotty dog on June 14, 2012, 12:55:53 PM
Ditto on the entry level pants. I have had pairs from both MSR and Thor not go the distance. Both were new and the MSR after the first race were shredded not much left but the waistband with some stips of fabric blowing in the wind (good for cooling though) Thor made it to the 2nd race before the ass seam split, and they were baggy to begin with.It is true but there are exceptions, i bought a pair of 180 Fox in 98, cheap as chips, just over $100 lasted me 2 full seasons, only had to replace em coz i actually wore out the arse, not split the stitching..
Seems with all brands of pants you get what you pay for.
Post by: racer142 on June 14, 2012, 01:27:17 PM
Post by: Stusmoke on June 14, 2012, 01:33:22 PM
Speaking of cheap gear I got a set of fly gear for $100 and it actually seam to be holding up pretty well. Got the pants Hersey and gloves combo. I'll admit it's not the most comfortable gear I've ever owned but it no where near uncomfortable and I've got probably 6 rides out of them and apart from the stains in the jersey from me being an idiot it's all still together. Oh and the Only reason I bought the fly gear is the answer gear I've had since late 07 the butt finally gave out. And I had no money to buy a $300 set of gearMoneys a bit of a bitch hey? Dare I ask what the stains are?
Post by: SachsGS on June 14, 2012, 02:56:56 PM
Post by: racer142 on June 14, 2012, 03:32:03 PM
Post by: Stusmoke on June 15, 2012, 12:45:29 AM
Only mud and grease. The mud was from when I blew my bike up. The track was a red clay sand mix and I was so mad when I got home that I tore the bike apart and forgot about my uniform for 4 weeks or so. The other was grease. I rode my bike last weekend for the first time in 3 months minus break in rides and the first thing it did was foul a plug. So got it taken apart only to find out the girl who was with me left my spare spark plugs at the house.(she picked them up from the cycle shop for me bc she lives 5 min away and I live 35. They were supposed to be in her purse. Well bc of that I used break clean to try to clean it off and the oil/break clean got all over my jersey.
Those sound like some fun race days
Hey if it makes you feel better, I know a woman who lost her plane tickets to Canada. No shes not related... Thankfully.Lets see what other great stuff have I used.
Of course. Oneal Element gloves. These things are cheap. I mean cheap. But you know what? They beat the $40 fox dirt paws that I originally got by a mile. The Oneals are comfortable, durable (relatively) and airy. Good product.
OZtrail camel back: Hard to the core. I had a pretty sick Chad Reed style endo crash a while back and this thing shrugged it off and asked for more. It wasn't even expensive. Its comfortable, not encumbering at all and I can fit 2 reserve bottles of water in there too. Really nice. If nothing else, check it out for being indestructible.
Scott racing hand grips: I had these on my fooper and WOW. My gloves never slipped, not when smothered in black soil mud and not when they weren't probably dry after a wash. They look sweet and are very durable too. I was a crap rider on the fooper before I went to a 2 stroke so I stacked even more than I do now (hard to believe right?). But they were good to go after every tumble. Good stuff.
This ones kind of intermediate but I'll throw it in anyway: Haynes YZ manual (1986-2006, I think, don't quote me on that). Now its good, step by step instructions. Don't get me wrong on that its a hell of alot better flying blind. BUT: it will occasionally refer you to the chapters technical specifications to turn a screw in our out the x number of turns. The x number of turns isnt in the specs. Annoying. I'm absolutely sure I'm doing it right too. But hey, heres someone writing a whole how-to book on several different motorcycles throughout 20 years. So I say well done anyway.
The bad: Fox dirt paws. Absolutely insulting. I got blisters at three different points on my left hand (clutch finger and two on the palm) and another two on the palm of the right hand. But wait, theres more: They fell apart in about 4 rides. Not worth their weight in dog crap.
I'll surely think of more soon and post it up when I do.
Post by: nom de guerre on June 15, 2012, 01:09:01 AM
I hate my MSR Elite boots... I bought them as a back up/mud boot and they are the stiffest boot I have ever used. Impossible to break in... I will never use them again.
Post by: ford832 on June 15, 2012, 02:23:29 PM
I'll be due for a new front later this year.I'll give that a shot,thanks total nz.Try the MS3 front with the S12 rear, the MS front works well over wide range of terrain.
Yep. But to be honest at the time Michelin had changed the factory in the Philipeans where they were built.
The quality control was crap. This was about 5 years ago and everyone in NZ was having problems.
Michelin sorted the problem but I have just not had the urge to try 1 again. Maybe I should.
Around here most that use them use the S12-XC.I'm certainly no Michelin fan and it took a lot for me to try one.Back in my RZ days I switched from Pirelli Demons to Dunlop K591's to Michelin Hi Sports and swore afterwards I'd never use another Michelin tire.Dirt wise though,I've yet to find a tire I like more than an S12 rear.The M12 rear is the worst tire ever built imo.
Like totalnz,I like the s12 front but here there is alot of goo but also a lot of hardpack and i find the s12 front knobs walk and tend to want to let go on harder surfaces.The M12 front doesn't do this and works well in the soft as well.S12 rear,M12 front-I always try different stuff but keep coming back to that.Here's a review I'd take with a grain of salt,the guys a bit of a cheerleader.
http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=8&ved=0CG0QtwIwBw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dhk8f8NlUD-4&ei=h3_aT4P7BMbf0QGEq-C9Ag&usg=AFQjCNHg952v1sq4YV-jPpr3XqODdEfYcA
Post by: chump6784 on June 17, 2012, 12:26:25 AM
I will add one more disapointment. I got a pair of Fox comp5 boots for Xmas this year and they already have holes in the sole and instep of the boot from the kick starter. Will not buy them again. Any ideas about a good 200 dollar pair of boots that LAST....Bought a pair of diadora boots off eBay 2 years ago, they have lasted very well, still going strong. Only problem is they are very thin around the legs, if you have big calves like I do you won't fit knee braces or even knee guards in them
Hate list. Michelin tyres and Rock Oil. Michelin tyre didn't last and blew up 3 bikes when running Rock Oil, was paying for silkolene the got Rock oil for free. After 3 blow ups gave it back and paid for silkolene again until I got motorex for free
Also love o'neal gear. Shit looks good and lasts well
Post by: Stusmoke on June 17, 2012, 12:42:29 AM
I will add one more disapointment. I got a pair of Fox comp5 boots for Xmas this year and they already have holes in the sole and instep of the boot from the kick starter. Will not buy them again. Any ideas about a good 200 dollar pair of boots that LAST....Bought a pair of diadora boots off eBay 2 years ago, they have lasted very well, still going strong. Only problem is they are very thin around the legs, if you have big calves like I do you won't fit knee braces or even knee guards in them
Hate list. Michelin tyres and Rock Oil. Michelin tyre didn't last and blew up 3 bikes when running Rock Oil, was paying for silkolene the got Rock oil for free. After 3 blow ups gave it back and paid for silkolene again until I got motorex for free
Also love o'neal gear. Shit looks good and lasts well
Yeah it does
Thats really not cool about that rock oil though, I'll avoid it. I'll avoid michelin tyres too.Hey what do people have to say about Scorpion mid soft?
Post by: racer142 on June 17, 2012, 01:01:07 AM
Post by: Stusmoke on June 17, 2012, 01:26:12 AM
Loved my scorpion mid soft tires. Hooked up great but I guess got a bad batch a couple years ago and had 2 come apart at the seam where the tread meet the sidewall. haven't had one since but I honestly believe those were bad luck I ran 3 before those that were fine and my brother and best friend ran them without problems. I would honestly suggest them to anyone that rides in soft conditions to mild hard pack
Cheers racer. I'm making plans for next year after I get out of school. 1 whole year to myself to ride and I need the kit to be moderately competitive. The track i'll be hitting has a few soft sections but is mainly sticky red dirt. And the scorpions have really been hitting off lately it would seem. I guess theres a reason for that. Thanks mate. Can anyone recommend a cheap tool for splitting 2001 YZ250 cases?
Post by: queen of spodes on June 17, 2012, 04:14:52 AM
Loved my scorpion mid soft tires. Hooked up great but I guess got a bad batch a couple years ago and had 2 come apart at the seam where the tread meet the sidewall. haven't had one since but I honestly believe those were bad luck I ran 3 before those that were fine and my brother and best friend ran them without problems. I would honestly suggest them to anyone that rides in soft conditions to mild hard pack
Another vote for the Pirelli mid/softs. I've been using these front & back for over 5 years.. they wear pretty decent in hard stuff, too.
Post by: chump6784 on June 17, 2012, 04:25:47 AM
Post by: Stusmoke on June 17, 2012, 07:32:03 AM
What are peoples experiences here?
Thanks guys
Post by: factoryX on June 17, 2012, 09:26:27 AM
Post by: dbf498 on June 17, 2012, 11:38:50 AM
I'm getting my research together to put a new bottom end in my YZ250 so heres my question: Hot rods or wiseco? They are the two most available to me but I'm leaning towards the wiseco. They have a reputation for being super in all areas.
What are peoples experiences here?
Thanks guys
In all honesty, it all depends on what you prefer, OEM, Hot Rods or Wiseco as well as what's available. I've been running Hot Rods cranks for the past couple of years without any issues. I can't speak for Wiseco cranks but I've heard some folks had issues, journals out of tolerance, but that was a some time ago and I'd think they'd sorted that out by now. Every other Wiseco product I've used has been top notch with no complaints; their inner clutch hub is a work of art.
Post by: Stusmoke on June 17, 2012, 12:04:14 PM
Post by: coblefutch on June 17, 2012, 10:56:32 PM
I will add one more disapointment. I got a pair of Fox comp5 boots for Xmas this year and they already have holes in the sole and instep of the boot from the kick starter. Will not buy them again. Any ideas about a good 200 dollar pair of boots that LAST....Bought a pair of diadora boots off eBay 2 years ago, they have lasted very well, still going strong. Only problem is they are very thin around the legs, if you have big calves like I do you won't fit knee braces or even knee guards in them
Hate list. Michelin tyres and Rock Oil. Michelin tyre didn't last and blew up 3 bikes when running Rock Oil, was paying for silkolene the got Rock oil for free. After 3 blow ups gave it back and paid for silkolene again until I got motorex for free
Also love o'neal gear. Shit looks good and lasts well
Yeah it does
Hey what do people have to say about Scorpion mid soft?
I have a Scorpion mxtra mid soft. good grip and holding up pretty good. Would buy another one.
Post by: coblefutch on June 17, 2012, 11:00:39 PM
I'm getting my research together to put a new bottom end in my YZ250 so heres my question: Hot rods or wiseco? They are the two most available to me but I'm leaning towards the wiseco. They have a reputation for being super in all areas.
What are peoples experiences here?
Thanks guys
In all honesty, it all depends on what you prefer, OEM, Hot Rods or Wiseco as well as what's available. I've been running Hot Rods cranks for the past couple of years without any issues. I can't speak for Wiseco cranks but I've heard some folks had issues, journals out of tolerance, but that was a some time ago and I'd think they'd sorted that out by now. Every other Wiseco product I've used has been top notch with no complaints; their inner clutch hub is a work of art.
I believe that the Hot Rods & Wiseco are made in Tiawan, while the OEM is made in Japan. If that sort of thing matters to you..
Post by: Swimr2DaResQ on June 17, 2012, 11:16:59 PM
Good stuff: Pro Taper contour bars, Pro taper pillow top grips, Easton 1-3/8" fat bars are awesome, pirelli mx extra tires are very durable and last the longest of tire I have run, pirelli mxms tires have great traction but didn't last more than three rides before chunking and losing knobs, Boyesen water pump with super impeller works great and dropped my engine temps by 12-15 degrees F, Maxima Castor 927 premix works awesome and smells great, Twin Air fliters hold up great and work well, Amsoil super tacky air filter oil is great, One indusries Carbon jersey and pants are comfortable and have held up to a year of abuse, Sunline multi-flex pivoting levers are life savers!, CYCRA plastics seem to be more durable than any other brands I have tried, V-Force 3 Reed system has worked well for me!, Dragon Vendetta moto goggles with laminated tear off's are very nice, Fox V2 helmet fits true to size and has lasted several years, RK x-ring chains!, Grip donuts work wellfor me and no blister to this day since using them, Thor moto gloves slip on's don't have a wrist strap and breath very well!, there is alot more, I;m just drawing a blank on the other stuff.
Bad Stuff: Renthal Kevlar grips are not worth the money, they tear just as easily as most other brands and look like crap after the first ride. Enjoy Graphics, the glue they use will not hold up and will delam after a few rides, make sure your graphics use 3M adhesive!. Kenda tires, did not hold up and were a pain in the a## to mount. Wiseco bottom end kit, blew out the bearings at less than 40 hrs. Tusk Gaskets are crap, go with OEM or maybe Cometic.
Post by: Lolerbabop on June 17, 2012, 11:46:36 PM
Progrip grips are abit overrated. Gets really slippery and doesn't last very long.
Post by: metal_miracle on June 17, 2012, 11:59:18 PM
but the grips that helped my hands was progrip 791
I just off set the gel so that i right place when twisted the throttle
I had 2 fly chest protectors. fits good.. (but both broke allmost new, bad plastic)
my ufo protector lasted 10years
Post by: ford832 on June 18, 2012, 12:23:56 AM
Post by: beaner on June 18, 2012, 03:28:42 AM
I'm going to try those pillow top grips. I have a 2 hr hare scramble coming up then a 6 hr after that. Although I don't wear gloves when I race, I've never had a blister, but could use a little more comfort.
Post by: cnrcpla on June 18, 2012, 04:55:30 AM
Other than that, cool product.
Post by: eprovenzano on June 18, 2012, 12:55:38 PM
Stay away from Wiseco!!! rebuilt my KX250 last year with all internal wiseco parts. I thought with wiseco's reputation for their products, mainly pistons, that there bottom end components would be great as well. However, at 38.1 hours from complete rebuild, the main bearings on the crank blew out and shredded my cylinder and piston. Wiseco pistons are great and I stand by them, but anything else they produce I would be very skeptical about. OEM, IMO, is always the way to go for engine components, especially the crank, rod, and bearings. I went with wiseco because of the price difference of the OEM crank, but in the end it would have saved me a lot of money to buy the OEM crank assembly.
x2.. Hotrod cranks have a pretty good reputation, stay away from Wiseco. Go OEM if you can, if not I'd use Hotrod.
Post by: Stusmoke on June 19, 2012, 01:38:08 AM
Stay away from Wiseco!!! rebuilt my KX250 last year with all internal wiseco parts. I thought with wiseco's reputation for their products, mainly pistons, that there bottom end components would be great as well. However, at 38.1 hours from complete rebuild, the main bearings on the crank blew out and shredded my cylinder and piston. Wiseco pistons are great and I stand by them, but anything else they produce I would be very skeptical about. OEM, IMO, is always the way to go for engine components, especially the crank, rod, and bearings. I went with wiseco because of the price difference of the OEM crank, but in the end it would have saved me a lot of money to buy the OEM crank assembly.
x2.. Hotrod cranks have a pretty good reputation, stay away from Wiseco. Go OEM if you can, if not I'd use Hotrod.
Hot rods crank and wiseco top end it is. No way I'm running OEM, Yamaha OEM parts are bollocks expensive its about 500 for the crank assembly off motosport. OEM is definitely OFF the list.
Cheers guys I appreciate it.