Two Stroke Motocross
Two Stroke Motocross Forum => Technical => Topic started by: SSGHopkins on May 04, 2012, 08:22:37 PM
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OK so I havent been on a 2 stroke since LL's back in 1994. I had a horrible crash shortly after and didnt ride for 9 years due to the Ex wife (noticed I said ex lol) I have been riding 4 Strokes since I got back on bikes about 4 years ago. I sold my last 4 stroke (2010 RMZ450) before I left to get stationed in Italy. Before I left I did find an AMAZING deal on a project bike.
The bike. The guy I sold the RMZ to had a 2003 YZ250 sitting in his garage and after some talking I got it for 300 bucks. The only thing really wrong with it was a grenaded top end. Here are some pics.
The Bike

The Cylinder

The Piston

Box o' parts

I have decided to do more than just get the bike ridable, I am going to make it AWESOME.
So far I have gotten the frame powder coated black

I have also rebuilt the bottom end with a weisco crank and bottom end kit.
So now I am trying to decide what to do with the top end, keep it stock or bore it over. Also where is the best (read cheapest) place to get a full bearing kit? I am also looking for some Kite, Talon or DNA hubs, anyone know where to get those the cheapest. My Pegs and grips will come from TORC1 racing (I get a pretty good discount. Any help or advice would be appreciated. Also as I understand it a 250 2 stroke races 250 4 strokes in amateur racing, correct? Also if I go big bore how big until I cant run with the 450's? Thanks everyone. It will be a few months before I can finish since I wont be able to finish until I get back from Italy.
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Sweeeeettttttt,I'll give you $400 just the way she sits.

Can't wait to see how it turns out as I'm still mulling over colour combo's for mine.
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Nice
Can't wait until your done, I love YZ projects
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also does anyone know where i can get Yellow plastics for it? I have looked all over and I cant find them
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I think UFO does them. I was looking a couple of years ago.
Some of the part numbers are the same for YZF & YZ.
In 06' Yamaha did the yellow aniversary model. I like the look.
You should be able to make the 06' plastics fit.
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yeah I am going to go for a Hannah look. I will check out UFO, thanks. I do know that Clarke makes a yellow stock sized tank.
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For the BB I'd look for Eric Gorr.
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Second on Eric Gorr, he does the best work and it is very reasonable for what you get. Even if you don't get a big bore have him do the resleeve and have him port it for how you ride, you will pick up some ponies there. Also if you are making it awesome and money allows consider sending the crank and transmission parts to micro blue to make them almost completely frictionless, it makes them last longer and it also frees up some power that gets lost in the gears. Check out G-Force complete wheel sets at rocky mountain, they are lighter than stock and in my opinion look really cool, they say every pound of unsprung weight saved is like saving 3 to 5 pounds of sprung weight. I can't wait to see it when it is finished!
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ONE Industries had a Hurricane kit a while back, not sure if they are still available, Clarke plastics make the tank in all colors.
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Where is the best place to get the cylinder repaired if I leave it stock and don't go big bore?
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I used Millennium Technologies for my cylinder on my YZ. They did a great job on my cylinder.
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I used Millennium Technologies for my cylinder on my YZ. They did a great job on my cylinder.
Contact info?
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Phone: 920-893-5595
Fax: 920-893-4830
Address: 1404 Pilgrim Road ? Plymouth WI 53073
Site: http://www.mt-llc.com/
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Has anyone used US Chrome? They will give me a big discount since I am in the Army.
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Ok what about the 295 kit for this bike? Anyone rode one? I will be racing MX and Hare Scrambles down in Georgia
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ebay yellow plastics. there is tons of new ones on there
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Go the 295 kit, that would be awesome, Im wondering if you can get a 360 kit for the YZ like ya used to for the older 89/90's n stuff, i would love an 89 YZ 360
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Ok what about the 295 kit for this bike? Anyone rode one? I will be racing MX and Hare Scrambles down in Georgia
I've heard of a couple of people running the 295 kit and their fifth gear going off consistently. Not sure if its the same model or same kit or anything but I'm pretty sure I heard it somewhere on here not sure who from.
When Dogger did his (godlike) CR project he sent basically his entire engine off to be cryogeniclly insert-technical-phrase-here anyway the outcome was major loss in friction, less wear and twice as strong.
I can understand the fifth gear going its putting a tremendous load on it. Anyway as I said this is just something I've heard and is possibly inaccurate. Just something to consider if you're gonna go the 295 kit.
Good luck mate going really nicely so far
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Didn't Ohlins make a 360 kit for this bike?
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I think I saw a 2004 YZ250 with a 360 kit on it somewhere. Not on here but somewhere.
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Just a thought here, I know transmissions can take a beating, and I know gears are pretty tough, but keep in mind the gear boxes are meant to handle 250 cc's of power, maybe a little more, but I don't think that a 250 trans is designed to handle the torque and power of an additional 110 cc's. I'm no engineer (yet, I'm going to school for it) but you wont catch me running a 360 kit on a stock 250 trans. Just my 2 cents though.
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Just a thought here, I know transmissions can take a beating, and I know gears are pretty tough, but keep in mind the gear boxes are meant to handle 250 cc's of power, maybe a little more, but I don't think that a 250 trans is designed to handle the torque and power of an additional 110 cc's. I'm no engineer (yet, I'm going to school for it) but you wont catch me running a 360 kit on a stock 250 trans. Just my 2 cents though.
Yeah that was my point too. You could swap it out for a long ratio tranny maybe but that wouldn't do much for mx. If you do find a 360 kit, I'd look for ways to get your gears treated and strengthened. As I said Dogger had some pretty sweet **** happening inside his powerplant so you might want to contact him
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At the moment I'm content with my 250. When I feel the need for a bigger engine, I will buy a cheap roller and put a 500 in it hahaha.
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No no no I was talking about the 360 cc kit I wasn't suggesting you do anything to your bike crncpala. my bad
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Oh ok, hahaha, Yeah I would say only run the 360 kit if you can replace a few trans parts just in case something goes wrong.
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The engineers at Yamaha would have designed a safety factor into the transmission so it would probably handle the additional torque of the 360 kit.Ohlins would have had this in mind.
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The engineers at Yamaha would have designed a safety factor into the transmission so it would probably handle the additional torque of the 360 kit.Ohlins would have had this in mind.
Maybe but I wouldn't stake too much on it. google Ohlins 360cc kit problems or issues or something like that, see how frequent they are. Sachs may be right, he usually is. 360 cc's is alot of load on the gears though
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Yeah not planning on a 360 kit, but i am trying to decide on the Eric Gorr 265 or the 295 kit. I am now back in the states now and getting everything together to get this back on track. The frame is here and everything else is on the way, except the cylinder which is still in the decision process lol. I will post pictures soon.
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I have a Eric Gorr 295 with mo' better power band set up for high test pump gas. Added a flywheel weight, V-Force reeds, Pro Circuit pipe and silencer. It has sick down low, mid range hit is manageable and still pulls on top. I also have a FMF Fatty pipe and a Gnarly pipe as well as various FMF silencers. Truthfully changing the pipe does not make a notable difference, they are all good. Bike is absolutely sick in the woods, it is hard to stall and the power is about as close to 4T as a 2T can get, very smooth, hooks up great in hard pack conditions and still rips on top and steers with the rear as a 2T should. I highly recommend it for woods riding, and it does great at MX too!