Post by: monsteryz125 on April 30, 2012, 03:35:10 AM
Post by: ruskee on April 30, 2012, 04:51:23 AM
Post by: cnrcpla on April 30, 2012, 12:14:26 PM
Post by: MetalMike1982 on April 30, 2012, 01:06:28 PM
Post by: Shawn36 on April 30, 2012, 01:14:18 PM
Post by: Premixed on April 30, 2012, 01:32:36 PM
Post by: Marco810 on April 30, 2012, 02:18:02 PM
Post by: SachsGS on April 30, 2012, 03:13:12 PM
Post by: Premixed on April 30, 2012, 04:18:22 PM
Post by: MetalMike1982 on April 30, 2012, 05:13:36 PM
there is a gray area in the late 80s early 90s where it isn't old enough for vintage class racing, but it isn't new enough to be worth a shit. i think super vintage is conventional forks and drum rears.
Just because a bike isnt up to date dosent mean it isnt worth a shit . My 88 kx250 was one of the most reliable bikes I ever rode and had no problem running with 00+ machines in the woods or at hard rock . Its all in rider ability as to what you can do with an older bike . They may be a little harder to ride consistantly than modern bikes but if you want the easy way out buy a 4stroke
Keeping the older bikes alive seems pretty important to me as far as keeping 2 strokes alive in general .
This bike cost me almost nothing other than fresh tires and air filter,a few adjustments and she was a beast . I had a guy out at tanglewood try to take off and leave me down a 2 mile long whoop trail on a yzf426 and I stayed right next to him the entire way . This bike cleared the water tower jump at hardrock more than a couple times also . I still miss it wish I would kept it as a 2nd bike
Post by: Marco810 on May 01, 2012, 12:14:31 AM
there is a gray area in the late 80s early 90s where it isn't old enough for vintage class racing, but it isn't new enough to be worth a shit. i think super vintage is conventional forks and drum rears.
Just because a bike isnt up to date dosent mean it isnt worth a shit . My 88 kx250 was one of the most reliable bikes I ever rode and had no problem running with 00+ machines in the woods or at hard rock . Its all in rider ability as to what you can do with an older bike . They may be a little harder to ride consistantly than modern bikes but if you want the easy way out buy a 4stroke
Keeping the older bikes alive seems pretty important to me as far as keeping 2 strokes alive in general .
This bike cost me almost nothing other than fresh tires and air filter,a few adjustments and she was a beast . I had a guy out at tanglewood try to take off and leave me down a 2 mile long whoop trail on a yzf426 and I stayed right next to him the entire way . This bike cleared the water tower jump at hardrock more than a couple times also . I still miss it wish I would kept it as a 2nd bike
Nice bike, I like that year. looks like a 500 minus the big jug, infact i think they share body parts. I'm a kawi man myself, seems people around here like the orange ones..
Post by: Premixed on May 01, 2012, 12:31:16 AM
there is a gray area in the late 80s early 90s where it isn't old enough for vintage class racing, but it isn't new enough to be worth a shit. i think super vintage is conventional forks and drum rears.
Just because a bike isnt up to date dosent mean it isnt worth a shit . My 88 kx250 was one of the most reliable bikes I ever rode and had no problem running with 00+ machines in the woods or at hard rock . Its all in rider ability as to what you can do with an older bike . They may be a little harder to ride consistantly than modern bikes but if you want the easy way out buy a 4stroke
Keeping the older bikes alive seems pretty important to me as far as keeping 2 strokes alive in general .
This bike cost me almost nothing other than fresh tires and air filter,a few adjustments and she was a beast . I had a guy out at tanglewood try to take off and leave me down a 2 mile long whoop trail on a yzf426 and I stayed right next to him the entire way . This bike cleared the water tower jump at hardrock more than a couple times also . I still miss it wish I would kept it as a 2nd bike
and like i said, if you are going to trail ride it, then it's a good bike.
Post by: cnrcpla on May 01, 2012, 02:02:18 AM
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Just because a bike isnt up to date dosent mean it isnt worth a shit . My 88 kx250 was one of the most reliable bikes I ever rode and had no problem running with 00+ machines in the woods or at hard rock . Its all in rider ability as to what you can do with an older bike . They may be a little harder to ride consistantly than modern bikes but if you want the easy way out buy a 4stroke EvilNice bike. I completely agree, I think people over look bikes that aren't recent. They still pull with the modern bikes and have that old school tank-like structure. Like an old phone, reliable, but it doesn't have all the bells and whistles of the latest and greatest. And to some people that's just fine. Not to mention, give it ten years and even the 2012 yz250's will be "out dated"
Keeping the older bikes alive seems pretty important to me as far as keeping 2 strokes alive in general .
This bike cost me almost nothing other than fresh tires and air filter,a few adjustments and she was a beast . I had a guy out at tanglewood try to take off and leave me down a 2 mile long whoop trail on a yzf426 and I stayed right next to him the entire way . This bike cleared the water tower jump at hardrock more than a couple times also . I still miss it wish I would kept it as a 2nd bike
Post by: TMKIWI on May 01, 2012, 05:45:51 AM
Not to mention, give it ten years and even the 2012 yz250's will be "out dated"
What do you mean " give it 10 years".
Post by: VintageBlueSmoke on May 01, 2012, 09:56:21 AM
Had my dealer not sold the business that year, I probably would have bought one (well, the 125 anyway).
Post by: factoryX on May 01, 2012, 10:32:06 AM
I would personally love to have this over my yz.
Post by: cnrcpla on May 01, 2012, 12:10:08 PM
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What do you mean " give it 10 years". TongueWhat, it wouldn't take that long?
Not to mention, we all know according to the Mayans that 2012 will be the last year to make bikes anyways 
Post by: factoryX on May 01, 2012, 12:54:01 PM
Post by: MetalMike1982 on May 01, 2012, 01:13:24 PM
there is a gray area in the late 80s early 90s where it isn't old enough for vintage class racing, but it isn't new enough to be worth a shit. i think super vintage is conventional forks and drum rears.
Just because a bike isnt up to date dosent mean it isnt worth a shit . My 88 kx250 was one of the most reliable bikes I ever rode and had no problem running with 00+ machines in the woods or at hard rock . Its all in rider ability as to what you can do with an older bike . They may be a little harder to ride consistantly than modern bikes but if you want the easy way out buy a 4stroke
Keeping the older bikes alive seems pretty important to me as far as keeping 2 strokes alive in general .
This bike cost me almost nothing other than fresh tires and air filter,a few adjustments and she was a beast . I had a guy out at tanglewood try to take off and leave me down a 2 mile long whoop trail on a yzf426 and I stayed right next to him the entire way . This bike cleared the water tower jump at hardrock more than a couple times also . I still miss it wish I would kept it as a 2nd bike
and like i said, if you are going to trail ride it, then it's a good bike.
It did just as good on the track as any trail . you said you knew hardrock pretty well and this bike shredded hard rock and had no problem clearing any of the jumps . Seems like there might be a grey area between not worth a shit and good trail bike. just sayin .
Post by: Premixed on May 01, 2012, 02:01:59 PM
Post by: cnrcpla on May 01, 2012, 03:41:29 PM
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Ha, he's pointing out that the bike is already outdated.. The only difference with 2002 model and 2012 is the aluminum frame and better suspension. If I buy an 2012 yz250 frame, everything off my 03 yz250 will literally bolt on, even the sub frame despite different part numbers.Good point. I wish the factories would put some more effort in 2T's... I'm sure someone has some ideas that can make the displacement rule somewhat fair as far as power vs. power, instead of rigged BS like it is now.
Post by: Premixed on May 01, 2012, 04:30:10 PM
Ha, he's pointing out that the bike is already outdated.. The only difference with 2002 model and 2012 is the aluminum frame and better suspension. If I buy an 2012 yz250 frame, everything off my 03 yz250 will literally bolt on, even the sub frame despite different part numbers.
Ask Charles how bolting parts from an 05 to an 11 worked for them at midnight in the pits at VMP.
Post by: MetalMike1982 on May 01, 2012, 05:04:45 PM
Boils down to personal opinion then really. No doubt you can huck the water tower, at least on the left side on an 89, but isn't it more fun on an 09? To me it is. To each his own, I like the ergonomics and stiffer frames, lighter weight of the newer bikes. the build quality and finish has only improved with time. Remember the bars these bikes came with? Remember the oem plastics and graphics? I remember nightmares of brand new early 90s bikes looking completely hammered after 2 rides. These days, you just put numbers on them. You have pro tapers and all the goodies, especially the KTMs.
I agree 100%. The bikes have without a doubt improved over the years . I love bikes in general and working a little harder to smoke newer bikes on an old 88 model is what I loved the most . Proving that its rider ability and not having the best bike money can buy in order to go fast .
my main concern is keeping 2 strokes alive and all the bikes that make their legacy what it is today . Without the mxer's of the past we wouldnt have the new bikes we have out today . Honestly dont feel a huge difference in handling going from my 91 cr125 to my 03 rm125 . Both bikes are flickable and fast .
I've never cleared the water tower from the left side on any bike including the 88 , right side launching into blue sky for me .
Post by: Premixed on May 01, 2012, 06:00:11 PM
Post by: MetalMike1982 on May 01, 2012, 06:13:58 PM
this guy just about gets all the way over the 3rd hump on a 125 @ :45
That guy is letting off the gas way to much , the 2nd lap around looked like he cleared a little bit better . Last time I was there a kid was killing that jump on an 85 . was pretty impresive to say the least. I'm not gonna lie the shadiest part of launching that 88 off that jump was slowing down for the turn on the other side . Dam man I feel like loading the bike up and going to Ocala now .
Post by: Premixed on May 01, 2012, 06:20:36 PM
Post by: MetalMike1982 on May 01, 2012, 06:27:01 PM
5 lap dash, last place pays the bill at the Cracker Barrel at the Lakeland exit off I-4.
lol 5 is about all I'm good for . If you change cracker barrel to olive garden in ocala i'm down . I'm planning a trip to go to High point in Ga with a couple of bud's that want to buy some orange bikes within the next month or so . When are you coming to FL?
Post by: factoryX on May 01, 2012, 06:28:41 PM
Ha, he's pointing out that the bike is already outdated.. The only difference with 2002 model and 2012 is the aluminum frame and better suspension. If I buy an 2012 yz250 frame, everything off my 03 yz250 will literally bolt on, even the sub frame despite different part numbers.
Ask Charles how bolting parts from an 05 to an 11 worked for them at midnight in the pits at VMP.
Just checked parts numbers on frames, 2011+ have a different part number, 2010-05 are exactly the same. Odd.
Post by: Premixed on May 01, 2012, 06:30:50 PM
5 lap dash, last place pays the bill at the Cracker Barrel at the Lakeland exit off I-4.
lol 5 is about all I'm good for . If you change cracker barrel to olive garden in ocala i'm down . I'm planning a trip to go to High point in Ga with a couple of bud's that want to buy some orange bikes within the next month or so . When are you coming to FL?
june 4-8 to orlando, but im flying, so I wont have my bike. i will get down there with my bike this year though, for sure.
hey, memorial day weekend, there is a big event at south of the border MX, which is jimmy weinerts new facility. i am going, and im trying to talk Charles into it. Why don't you come up for that? i made that drive 2 months ago, its not that bad from Tampa, and youre in Brookesville, so thats almost an hour closer.
saturday practice, bonfire at night, sunday racing. jimmy weinert.
Post by: MetalMike1982 on May 01, 2012, 06:35:27 PM
Post by: Premixed on May 01, 2012, 06:38:02 PM
That sounds like a sweet idea where is it located ? I'm actually in crystal river so I'm north of brooksville a little bit
I used to bang an italian chick there named Libby DiSimone. took her to Dade city a few times.
here. round up your boys and head up to this.
Post by: factoryX on May 01, 2012, 06:52:57 PM
Post by: Premixed on May 01, 2012, 06:58:07 PM
Okay then, just talked to Charles and he said the only problem was the 2011 front wheel wouldn't bolt up with the 05 forks/triples.
i think the parts differences in the YZ250s are largely dependent on the 250Fs. I think they wan to machine one part, rather than two different parts, wherever they can. so, somewhere between 05 and 11, the 250F probably got a new front wheel or hub spacers. something.
Post by: factoryX on May 01, 2012, 07:00:39 PM
Post by: MetalMike1982 on May 06, 2012, 01:46:52 PM
Post by: scotty dog on May 06, 2012, 11:23:23 PM
Post by: MetalMike1982 on May 07, 2012, 02:05:20 PM
Yea what happened to the dude askin bout the 93 KX? I owned one from new in 94, was a pretty good bike for a KX, it broke the powervalve off but thats it from what i remember, if its free get it, free shit is good!!
Good bike? Are you kidding me these things will break footpeg springs just from stareing to hard at them . The frames bend and crack after the 2nd ride . You didnt know? lol . I'm joking Kawi's are good bikes , I loved the ones I had and never had any problems with any of them . i might go pick up a 98 kx250 for $250 from this guy I know . Basket case deal
Post by: scotty dog on May 07, 2012, 11:07:29 PM
Notice i wrote "for a KX" in there..Yea what happened to the dude askin bout the 93 KX? I owned one from new in 94, was a pretty good bike for a KX, it broke the powervalve off but thats it from what i remember, if its free get it, free shit is good!!
Good bike? Are you kidding me these things will break footpeg springs just from stareing to hard at them . The frames bend and crack after the 2nd ride . You didnt know? lol . I'm joking Kawi's are good bikes , I loved the ones I had and never had any problems with any of them . i might go pick up a 98 kx250 for $250 from this guy I know . Basket case deal
Its too far back for me to remember too much detail 
Post by: monsteryz125 on May 08, 2012, 12:43:29 AM
Post by: Premixed on May 08, 2012, 04:15:44 PM