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Two Stroke Motocross Forum => General Two Stroke Talk => Topic started by: Suzuki TS250/185 on January 07, 2012, 04:08:52 PM

Title: As one of your biggest fans ever, I have to say it....
Post by: Suzuki TS250/185 on January 07, 2012, 04:08:52 PM
I hope all the "F" money's worth it to you , James.....



Are we REALLY supposed to believe that we're seeing the best possible machines in today's races??? Did anyone catch the 10 inch whoops on that track last night? It was like the track was built for the Kiddie KTM round...

The industry can keep trying to push the junk any way they want. Lame tracks, expensive talking heads, slack jumps, tiny whoops...

Personally, I have to wonder how much it would have cost a bunch of sponge companies to make sure Van Gogh, Da Vince, and Picasso would paint with sponges?

 
Title: As one of your biggest fans ever, I have to say it....
Post by: motoman356 on January 07, 2012, 05:04:34 PM
i liked how different the track was but the dificulty of some parts as the whoops was pretty disappointing. as far as james goes he is boring to watch these days. he no where near aggresive as he was on kawi's or maybe its just the rider having issues setting the bike up. whatever the cause he hasnt been the same on the yamadog and you can expect him to either win or crash all while feet are off pegs.
Title: As one of your biggest fans ever, I have to say it....
Post by: Suzuki TS250/185 on January 07, 2012, 05:20:00 PM
Right, but it's not just him... The whole level of the racing/riding and negotiation of the obstacles is slack...

The racing itself is a less appealing product now with the Foopers.

I think it's time to try to revolt and look into a new series.
Title: As one of your biggest fans ever, I have to say it....
Post by: Dirtsaw on January 07, 2012, 05:46:45 PM
I'd have to say that last night's show was probably the most boring 3 hrs I've ever sat through.  Track was shit, bikes were lame, racing was non existent.  Bout the only interesting thing was the new gear offerings.  Think I'll look for re-runs of bowling for dollars as well..  Maybe Fantasy Island repeats...
Title: As one of your biggest fans ever, I have to say it....
Post by: Suzuki TS250/185 on January 07, 2012, 06:17:36 PM
Title: As one of your biggest fans ever, I have to say it....
Post by: snook620 on January 07, 2012, 06:27:22 PM
Last nights track sucked, no doubt about it. But it had nothing to do with the motorcycles.

James' crash didnt surprise me a bit either  :P
Title: As one of your biggest fans ever, I have to say it....
Post by: Suzuki TS250/185 on January 07, 2012, 06:47:42 PM
The motorcycles just contribute to make the overall racing much more boring to watch. Becasue of the fact that 250 and 450 Foopers aren't capable of the same level of performance as Pre 2005 Race Bikes, everything about the tracks they race on must be downgraded so it's not problematic for them to negotiate.

That's why the general amplitude of last nights action is so dull. The bikes are dull, so the track must be dull... and everyone in the announcer's booth must be paid to talk about the track and the bikes as if they are exciting...

Compared to racing like this, Foopercross is just boring... no doubt about it. And it's because the motorcycles can't and don't perform at the same high level.


Title: As one of your biggest fans ever, I have to say it....
Post by: EJ on January 07, 2012, 07:00:53 PM
Quote from: Suzuki TS250/185 on January 08, 2012, 01:20:00 AM
I think it's time to try to revolt and look into a new series.

X 2.
I agree!!!

P.s. this is one of my personal favourites;







Title: As one of your biggest fans ever, I have to say it....
Post by: twosmoke595 on January 07, 2012, 07:50:35 PM
even the 125's back then have more corner speed than the 450's do now
Title: As one of your biggest fans ever, I have to say it....
Post by: EJ on January 07, 2012, 07:53:16 PM
Very nice 1st. post :) Welcome here!  :D
Title: As one of your biggest fans ever, I have to say it....
Post by: cnrcpla on January 07, 2012, 09:39:06 PM
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even the 125's back then have more corner speed than the 450's do now
  That's because 125's are lighter, more ballsy, and just better all around than the foopers.
Title: As one of your biggest fans ever, I have to say it....
Post by: twosmoke595 on January 07, 2012, 09:58:13 PM
Quote from: EJ on January 08, 2012, 03:53:16 AM
Very nice 1st. post :) Welcome here!  :D

haha i just put in a introduction in another thread, please go read and tell me your thoughts  ;D
Title: As one of your biggest fans ever, I have to say it....
Post by: twosmoke595 on January 07, 2012, 10:00:11 PM
Quote from: cnrcpla on January 08, 2012, 05:39:06 AM
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even the 125's back then have more corner speed than the 450's do now
  That's because 125's are lighter, more ballsy, and just better all around than the foopers.

i personally like the racing, not so much the bikes, but just the racing and the people. Honestly i wish they would have the old class structure back, 125's (see if honda has the balls to put their feeble 150r in this class), 250's (regardless of stroke), and open (up to 500cc)
Title: As one of your biggest fans ever, I have to say it....
Post by: Recovered on January 07, 2012, 10:03:09 PM
WOW seems the only racer that everybody disses now days is JS7 even when anyone of the other 41 racers might go down nobody says a word about them. IMO JS7 hasen't had a real mechanic to speak of since he's been gone from Kawi. J-Bone was the only one that could get things done and set his bike up to where JS7 had any real confidence to ride to the level he needed to ride. If the bike isn't set up 110% perfect the bike isn't going to perform like it should be either. Saturday night was only the first race of the SX season it's not all rider that causes crashes the bikes now days are as safisticated as a F1 race car so if it's not set up properly it's not going to perform either.
Title: As one of your biggest fans ever, I have to say it....
Post by: cnrcpla on January 07, 2012, 10:04:34 PM
Yeah... The racing has gone down in quality with all the arrogant new generation four strokers out there who think that their 250f's with a slip on FMF are faster than the speed of light... I have shut quite a few up with my yz though  ;D