Two Stroke Motocross
Two Stroke Motocross Forum => General Two Stroke Talk => Topic started by: eprovenzano on September 08, 2011, 05:36:27 AM
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In the October issue of Motocross Action magazine they rebuilt a roached 250F and wanted to see what it would take to "make it a reliable stocker"... They bought a 06 YZ250F that was said to have 25 hours on it but dropped a valve for $500.00. It had been sitting in a barn for years. The parts list included a new crank, crank bearings, seals, and a complete gasket set. The cylinder needed to be welded as did the head. The head also needed all new valves, springs, seals, clips, etc, etc... plus fitted with a new piston and rings. Since the bike had been sitting for so long, a new chain, sprockets, grips, tires and of course all new plastic, and graphics. They also had the suspension serviced. Of course this would happen to any used bike so we??ll call that a wash.
The total cost was $3,650.00... Yes some of that was replacement of wear items, chain, sprockets, tires, grips, but they also did also did all of the engine disassembly and reassembly in-house? for free.... I'm going from memory, but I cannot remember if they changed the timing chain and tensioner. I'll assume they did...
Let??s put this into the real world for a normal rider... A normal rider on a tight budget may have skimped an a few things on Motocross Action's list, so lets deduct $500.00 (I'm feeling generous), but he had to have the engine rebuild by a shop, plus $800.00 for labor. The total spent is now close to $4,000.00 for in their words ??a 6 year old bike...? (My bike, a 2000 model, is now going on 12 years old, so that statement rubs me the wrong way). Of course they say what a wonderful bike it is, the torque is great, blah, blah, blah?
What they are missing is that for 1ess than ½ the cost, a smoker can be purchased and completely rebuilt? No wonder so many that drank the Kool-Aid are looking for a different beverage.
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Can you trust a rebuilt 250F?
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^^depends on who built it.
Im sure MXA didnt spare any expense, bringing back a ragged out motocross bike is expensive. Id like to see an actual retail dollar amount it would cost to duplicate the bad ass YZ125 Charles built.
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^ probably still $1000 short of what they spent ;D. Another thing to remember is that shops are raising their rates up as well, and with the extra labor involved with 4t's the price they spent is not at all far fetched. The little stuff mentioned is simple maintenance, which every bike needs at certain time. Hell I've just spent $400 on little stuff on my yz250 and still have stuff to fix/update like plastics and suspension(06 and up sss yamaha forks/shock ;D).
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That's why I was being generous by deducting $500.00 for items most of us may not repair, plus I only added $800.00 for labor. True some items needed updated, but was a full set of plastics and graphics really needed to get the bike running? Could the suspension have been cleaned up just fluid changes. I agree that they didn't list what I feel was the total cost, but it's a fair representation of what someone would have to spend to fix their bike after a catastrophic failure.
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Yeah, the project bike was close to what MXA spent to get the 4 stroke going. :)
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Hah, my total overhauled 250 costs me 1500?.
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I just bought a 2006 yz 250 in great condition for $1,800 and got new crank bearings, crank, rod, top end kit, cylinder replated, new head for $850 in parts and $250 in labor.
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^^depends on who built it.
Im sure MXA didnt spare any expense, bringing back a ragged out motocross bike is expensive. Id like to see an actual retail dollar amount it would cost to duplicate the bad ass YZ125 Charles built.
Charles' total investment into that bike, tricking it out and everything that he did to make it the rocket ship it is today... Cost less than it did to rebuild this 250f...
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Charles' total investment into that bike, tricking it out and everything that he did to make it the rocket ship it is today... Cost less than it did to rebuild this 250f...
Yeah I guess its kind of apples and oranges. Either way 2 or 4 its probably pretty easy to spend several thousand dollars to completely rebuild a bike. There would definitely be a price difference though, the cylinder head and exhaust is quite a bit more to replace on a 4t.