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Two Stroke Motocross Forum => General Two Stroke Talk => Topic started by: keeptwostrokesalive on July 23, 2011, 01:53:51 PM

Title: Mike Horban Qualified for Washougal on a yz250
Post by: keeptwostrokesalive on July 23, 2011, 01:53:51 PM
When the gate was about to drop i heard the amazing sound of a two stroke along with a white puff of smoke coming out of a bike sorrounded by four bangers.  Mike was running 26ish before he went off the track unfortunately.  Lets hope he is able to make it out for the 2nd moto to do some damage on those japanese companys and there beloved four strokes. 
Title: Re: Mike Horban Qualified for Washougal on a yz250
Post by: factoryX on July 23, 2011, 02:40:59 PM
Whats with YZ250's at washougal? So far all they do there is break down lol.

Note to self, stay away from Washougal.
Title: Re: Mike Horban Qualified for Washougal on a yz250
Post by: keeptwostrokesalive on July 23, 2011, 02:59:13 PM
He could have just crashed and tweaked his bars, but you could be right too.  Atleast it didnt break during qualifying.
Title: Re: Mike Horban Qualified for Washougal on a yz250
Post by: DESERTFOX19 on July 23, 2011, 03:54:49 PM
I saw that to.
Title: Re: Mike Horban Qualified for Washougal on a yz250
Post by: keeptwostrokesalive on July 23, 2011, 06:43:42 PM
Im guessing his bike broke because he didnt race the second moto. :(
Title: Re: Mike Horban Qualified for Washougal on a yz250
Post by: ACMX on July 23, 2011, 09:13:55 PM
Well that doesnt look good for two strokes!!
Title: Re: Mike Horban Qualified for Washougal on a yz250
Post by: snook620 on July 23, 2011, 09:38:01 PM
What!? A 2 stroke breaking down in a fooper national??  :o   

Haha just kidding. It could have been a broken wheel for all I know. Sucks he had some bad luck after making it in.
Title: Re: Mike Horban Qualified for Washougal on a yz250
Post by: Shawn36 on July 24, 2011, 03:29:32 AM
The bike blew up a couple laps into the moto.  He actually had no intention of racing that bike, he brought a brand new 2012 KX450F to tech and the AMA told him to take it home, wasn't legal.  Kawi hadn't submitted the bike for the homoligation rule yet so he was forced to unload the YZ.  Thankfully it wasn't a newer YZ because those aren't submitted or legal either even though it's the same freaking bike. 
Title: Re: Mike Horban Qualified for Washougal on a yz250
Post by: IllusionGrafix on July 24, 2011, 03:23:53 PM
Actually he did intend on riding it because he has been talkin to me about it for weeks now.
Title: Re: Mike Horban Qualified for Washougal on a yz250
Post by: top gun on July 24, 2011, 07:51:41 PM
he wanted to race it!
Title: Re: Mike Horban Qualified for Washougal on a yz250
Post by: JOSH422 on July 30, 2011, 01:09:09 PM
The bike blew up a couple laps into the moto.  He actually had no intention of racing that bike, he brought a brand new 2012 KX450F to tech and the AMA told him to take it home, wasn't legal.  Kawi hadn't submitted the bike for the homoligation rule yet so he was forced to unload the YZ.  Thankfully it wasn't a newer YZ because those aren't submitted or legal either even though it's the same freaking bike. 

He definitely intended on racing the YZ.

The 2012's are up to speed as far as being legal to race without a doubt.

Technically if they turned him away on a 2012 kx450f and he wanted to race the YZ in place of- he'd still be racing a illegal bike since it was a 2005 model.
Title: Re: Mike Horban Qualified for Washougal on a yz250
Post by: jaggerdss on August 13, 2011, 06:10:20 AM
The bike blew up a couple laps into the moto.  He actually had no intention of racing that bike, he brought a brand new 2012 KX450F to tech and the AMA told him to take it home, wasn't legal.  Kawi hadn't submitted the bike for the homoligation rule yet so he was forced to unload the YZ.  Thankfully it wasn't a newer YZ because those aren't submitted or legal either even though it's the same freaking bike. 

Yes and no! He did seize the bike a couple of laps in but he did fully plan on riding the bike. He was scheduled to pick up his new KX fro his sponsor Power Motorsports of Sublimity on Wednesday before the race. Not sure of what bike he was going to have and the time frame he sign up with his own play bike a YZ250. He actually wanted to ride the 2 stroke though and it was already setup suspension-wise for outdoor. Other that that it was BONE STOCK! No pipe or anything. The homogolation deal on the KX is not correct. They are Homogolated.
Title: Re: Mike Horban Qualified for Washougal on a yz250
Post by: coblefutch on August 13, 2011, 03:12:35 PM
I know that a YZ 250 is down on HP vs the 450 but why everyone who tries to race a national on one thinks they have to tune it on the very ragged edge to compete.
You can't win if you don't finish.
Title: Re: Mike Horban Qualified for Washougal on a yz250
Post by: monsteryz125 on August 14, 2011, 06:32:59 AM
Everyone always speaks of the HP numbers but id like to see a torque comparison between say a 2012 250sx and a new 450
Title: Re: Mike Horban Qualified for Washougal on a yz250
Post by: TMKIWI on August 14, 2011, 09:20:36 AM
Everyone always speaks of the HP numbers but id like to see a torque comparison between say a 2012 250sx and a new 450

There would not be much in it. 2-3ft/lbs.
Main difference is the curve on the 450 is flatter.
Title: Re: Mike Horban Qualified for Washougal on a yz250
Post by: TMKIWI on August 14, 2011, 10:31:00 AM
Correction.

MXA 2010 test.

Q: HOW DOES THE 2010 KTM 250SX RUN ON THE DYNO?
A: Itâ??s a rocket ship! This is the most powerful 250cc motocross bike sold. On the dyno, the 2010 250SX made 49.05 horsepower at 8600 rpm and 30.95 foot pounds of torque at 8100 rpm.

For comparison purposes, here is how the 2010 KTM 250SX compares to the Honda CRF250, Honda CRF450 and Yamaha YZ250 two-stroke.

CRF250: The KTM 250SX makes 12.7 horsepower and 11 foot-pounds of torque more than the 2010 CRF250.

CRF450: The KTM 250SX makes 1.8 horsepower and 1.75 foot-pounds of torque less than the CRF450.

YZ250: The KTM 250SX makes 3.5 horsepower and two foot-pounds of torque more than the YZ250.

Title: Re: Mike Horban Qualified for Washougal on a yz250
Post by: TotalNZ on August 14, 2011, 11:45:07 PM
Everyone always speaks of the HP numbers but id like to see a torque comparison between say a 2012 250sx and a new 450

There would not be much in it. 2-3ft/lbs.
Main difference is the curve on the 450 is flatter.
Yep and it's that flat curve that makes all the difference to lap times.
Title: Re: Mike Horban Qualified for Washougal on a yz250
Post by: oldschoolmx on August 17, 2011, 06:55:50 PM

[/quote]Yep and it's that flat curve that makes all the difference to lap times.
[/quote]

No, it's the rider that makes all the difference to lap times.
Title: Re: Mike Horban Qualified for Washougal on a yz250
Post by: ktm150rippa on August 17, 2011, 07:12:50 PM
no doubt RC would give poto and dungey all they could handle on that bike and would beat them in sx
Title: Re: Mike Horban Qualified for Washougal on a yz250
Post by: ACMX on August 18, 2011, 12:38:52 AM
Not with his new respiratory problems :/
Title: Re: Mike Horban Qualified for Washougal on a yz250
Post by: chump6784 on August 18, 2011, 01:02:11 AM
watch this video of RC on a 250 2 stroke. One of the first things he says when he gets off is how much grip the 4 strokes have and how far they have come
Ricky Carmichael Rides Again! 2.stroke (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCMnnr9riBc#ws)
Title: Re: Mike Horban Qualified for Washougal on a yz250
Post by: VintageBlueSmoke on August 18, 2011, 01:34:31 AM
http://www.amaproracing.com/assets/AMAProApprovedMX.pdf (http://www.amaproracing.com/assets/AMAProApprovedMX.pdf)

Link to the AMA Approved Bikes list.

It is not comming up right now but maybe it is my typing... >:(
Title: Re: Mike Horban Qualified for Washougal on a yz250
Post by: EJ on August 18, 2011, 02:12:31 AM
The link works just fine.
It's a shame the USA is so reluctant towards non-japanese bikes...
Title: Re: Mike Horban Qualified for Washougal on a yz250
Post by: jaggerdss on August 18, 2011, 09:49:55 PM
I know that a YZ 250 is down on HP vs the 450 but why everyone who tries to race a national on one thinks they have to tune it on the very ragged edge to compete.
You can't win if you don't finish.

This bike was bone stock. Not " tuned on the ragged edge". It was his own play bike and it had hours on it. Might have helped to put a fresh bore on it before the race but in the end it was just bad luck!