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Two Stroke Motocross Forum => General Two Stroke Talk => Topic started by: rookie on July 11, 2011, 07:37:08 AM

Title: does the smoker idles nowaday?
Post by: rookie on July 11, 2011, 07:37:08 AM
i used to own a 92 RM125, 02 YZ125 and both smokers does not idle

however, the used 10 150SX i got recently, it does idle, is it suppose to idle?
or could be the previous owner turn up the idling screw to keep it running?

please advice.



Title: Re: does the smoker idles nowaday?
Post by: streaks383 on July 11, 2011, 08:14:05 AM
My Yz idles, every 2 smoke I have ever owned idles, if your jetting is perfect and your fuel is good it will idle properly.
Title: Re: does the smoker idles nowaday?
Post by: eprovenzano on July 11, 2011, 01:58:19 PM
If properly adjusted, any two stroke will idle.
Title: Re: does the smoker idles nowaday?
Post by: ford832 on July 11, 2011, 04:22:35 PM
You can turn the idle screw up so they will idle but properly set without your hand on the throttle,they will idle for a few seconds and then stall.
Title: Re: does the smoker idles nowaday?
Post by: msambuco on July 11, 2011, 08:23:15 PM
You can turn the idle screw up so they will idle but properly set without your hand on the throttle,they will idle for a few seconds and then stall.

Ford is correct. This way when you want to be off the throttle it will not give a little suprising surge. Four strokes idle fine, just like my truck.
Title: Re: does the smoker idles nowaday?
Post by: factoryX on July 12, 2011, 02:28:51 AM
A carbureted 4 stroke doesn't idle so nice either.  ;) Why I sold my XR250R.
Title: Re: does the smoker idles nowaday?
Post by: eprovenzano on July 12, 2011, 06:51:25 AM
My KTM will idle all day if I let it.  It's all in how you want it set-up.  Some prefer no idle, others (like me) prefer it to idle.  It's a personal choice.
Title: Re: does the smoker idles nowaday?
Post by: rookie on July 13, 2011, 01:00:41 AM
thanks guys for the advice !!

Title: Re: does the smoker idles nowaday?
Post by: maicoman009 on July 14, 2011, 07:27:40 AM
thanks guys for the advice !!


Rookie it's all about how you want your bike jetted. I like eprovenzano like my Katoom to have a steady idle & no stalling!  :)
Title: Re: does the smoker idles nowaday?
Post by: ford832 on July 14, 2011, 02:54:03 PM
thanks guys for the advice !!


Rookie it's all about how you want your bike jetted. I like eprovenzano like my Katoom to have a steady idle & no stalling!  :)

It all depends.For best response,it should idle for a few seconds then die.If you're just learning or have troubles putting the clutch/throttle/shift thing together,by all means,idle it up. ;D  ;)
Title: Re: does the smoker idles nowaday?
Post by: eprovenzano on July 14, 2011, 06:03:59 PM
OK Ford, I used to think you were OK.... not anymore...  just keep your idle down low so it will stall when the power of the smoker scares you.... so by all means idle down   ;D :P ;D 8)
Title: Re: does the smoker idles nowaday?
Post by: ACMX on July 15, 2011, 12:03:37 AM
I have mine set to idle shortly. It dies after a minute or so after it's warm.
Title: Re: does the smoker idles nowaday?
Post by: ford832 on July 15, 2011, 12:01:27 PM
OK Ford, I used to think you were OK.... not anymore...  just keep your idle down low so it will stall when the power of the smoker scares you.... so by all means idle down   ;D :P ;D 8)

Lol,I never have an issue with stalling.On the other hand,I rarely sit there and let the bike idle as that's not really what they're made for.
I do tend to be crash prone though and I do like the fact that when I do,the engine quits-and so does the rear wheel.
Oh yeah,I'm not OK,you really should have guessed that already  :D ;)
Title: Re: does the smoker idles nowaday?
Post by: eprovenzano on July 15, 2011, 12:10:16 PM
Your not the only one thatâ??s crash prone...   ;D   I recently had to have an appendectomy (my appendix had ruptured), so I've been on the sidelines this summer...  so because of that, I haven't crashed once this season...   :D  but... I'll be on the bike in two weeks, and I will make up for the zero crashes
Title: Re: does the smoker idles nowaday?
Post by: ford832 on July 16, 2011, 04:39:43 AM
Making up for lost time is good ;D
I always liked the bike to stall when it crashes.The first time I crashed my Berg(in third gear) my hand and head/neck came down about an inch from a wildly spinning rear wheel,chain and sprocket.After that I installed a tether that attached to my chest protector.I initially had it attached to my wrist but branches loved to claw at it and shut the bike off at the worst moments :( :D
Title: Re: does the smoker idles nowaday?
Post by: SachsGS on July 16, 2011, 10:49:24 AM
I was once riding a SWM 320 at a vintage trials meet and in one section I fell off the bike only have my boot or something else get hung up on the footpeg.The bike idled off into the bush dragging me for about 20 or 30 feet before I could unhook myself.

I always set up my big bore 2Ts not to idle.There's nothing worse then a 500 2T going DING,DING as you're trying to navigate some steep and twisty downhill single track.
Title: Re: does the smoker idles nowaday?
Post by: TotalNZ on July 16, 2011, 04:58:53 PM
I was once riding a SWM 320 at a vintage trials meet and in one section I fell off the bike only have my boot or something else get hung up on the footpeg.The bike idled off into the bush dragging me for about 20 or 30 feet before I could unhook myself.

I always set up my big bore 2Ts not to idle.There's nothing worse then a 500 2T going DING,DING as you're trying to navigate some steep and twisty downhill single track.
Ummm isn't that what the clutch is for?
Title: Re: does the smoker idles nowaday?
Post by: SachsGS on July 16, 2011, 07:57:07 PM
Not my riding style. ;D
Title: Re: does the smoker idles nowaday?
Post by: ACMX on July 16, 2011, 11:51:33 PM
I was once riding a SWM 320 at a vintage trials meet and in one section I fell off the bike only have my boot or something else get hung up on the footpeg.The bike idled off into the bush dragging me for about 20 or 30 feet before I could unhook myself.

I always set up my big bore 2Ts not to idle.There's nothing worse then a 500 2T going DING,DING as you're trying to navigate some steep and twisty downhill single track.
Ummm isn't that what the clutch is for?
Unless you want to use all four fingers, you probably wont be able to pull it all the way in. I wouldn't want to take more than two fingers off the bars while navigating down a tricky hill on a big bore. And if it's not all the way in, you will certainly feel that DING, DING.
Title: Re: does the smoker idles nowaday?
Post by: eprovenzano on July 17, 2011, 10:32:29 AM
I can fully appreciate the clutch of a big bore...  If gotten spoiled with the hydro clutch on my Katoom...  itâ??s like butter.