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Title: Yz 250 hard clutch pull
Post by: thepope on June 29, 2011, 10:05:25 AM
Hey there! i have a pretty hard clutch pull on my yz 250.i replaced the stock lever and perch with works connection stuff. also i replaced the clutch cable.the cable runs freely and smooth.You think there is something wrong inside the clutch? i have never open the clutch cover so i dont have a clue really.
i dont have any other problems with my clutch. only that it is pretty hard to pull :(
Title: Re: Yz 250 hard clutch pull
Post by: ACMX on June 29, 2011, 02:49:46 PM
I'm confused on what you mean here, does the bike try to pull when you have the clutch in, or is your clutch difficult to pull in?
Title: Re: Yz 250 hard clutch pull
Post by: ford832 on June 29, 2011, 03:33:09 PM
250's have a reasonably hard pull.Is it harder than other YZ250's you've tried?Mine pulled fairly hard at first but I threw the shorty lever and put on a longer one.I lubed the pivots both on the lever and under the case.I cleaned the cable out with a power luber and brake clean then used the power luber and cable life to lube it.I also moved the lever in towards the center so my two fingers  pulled on the outer end of it rather than the middle so I have more leverage.After that,it's almost as light a pull as my 125-well,maybe not but not too far off anyway.If you try all that and it's still hard you may have a clutch issue but it's not that likely.
Title: Re: Yz 250 hard clutch pull
Post by: SachsGS on June 29, 2011, 04:22:52 PM
Ditch the prehistoric cable and put a hydraulic clutch on your bike. ;D
Title: Re: Yz 250 hard clutch pull
Post by: TMKIWI on June 29, 2011, 05:33:04 PM
Ditch the prehistoric cable and put a hydraulic clutch on your bike. ;D

Thats what I thought. ;D
Title: Re: Yz 250 hard clutch pull
Post by: thepope on June 30, 2011, 12:11:44 AM
The lever is difficult to pull in. its hard. i have not compared it to another yz. but i felt the clutch of an 08 rm 125 and it was smooth as butter. but as you say the 250s might be a bit harder to pull in than a 125.
There is nothing wrong with the cable. it moves smooth when i havnt attached the lever and stuff. And its brand new.
I think i have tried the most things to get my clutch a bit lighter but nothing seems to work.I will however try to move it closer to the center of the bike to get more leverage and see if that helps.

Does anyone have replaced clutch springs before? or you dont think that is the problem.(if there is something wrong in there that is)

i hydraulic clutch would be nice yes :)
Title: Re: Yz 250 hard clutch pull
Post by: Coop on June 30, 2011, 04:24:24 AM
Ford gave good advice. A properly lubed cable eases pull somewhat. Moving the lever will help. It is also possible someone replaced your clutch springs with heavy ones. I had a YZ125 that the guy woods raced, and he installed heavy springs. That bike had he hardest clutch pull of any 125 I ever felt, or 250 for that matter  ;D.

Title: Re: Yz 250 hard clutch pull
Post by: Tom on June 30, 2011, 07:18:46 AM
Maybe a former owner of the bike had some clutch slipping and he solved that with +1 clutch plate and harder springs. Anything can happen...
Title: Re: Yz 250 hard clutch pull
Post by: thepope on June 30, 2011, 01:00:50 PM
you mean 1 extra clutch plate?  whats the downside with softer springs? also ive heard that someone replaced 3 of the springs with softer spring and left 2 with hard springs..
Title: Re: Yz 250 hard clutch pull
Post by: ford832 on June 30, 2011, 02:57:58 PM
As coop says,get a cable luber,some cable life and properly lube it-it does make a difference.
My RM 125 had a clutch pull that a baby could handle-so did both KTM's and the Berg.The YZ250's are considerably harder(250's always pull harder than 125's).Before I did what I posted to mine,I found I couldn't two finger it consistently as the pull was too stiff.
Worn clutch springs will make it pull easier.A hydro clutch is no guarantee of an easy pull or a good feel,it all depends on the ratio.
You may have to just deal with it somewhat.YZ's are a man's bike.If you need something more girly-look at the Euro's  ;D  ;)
Title: Re: Yz 250 hard clutch pull
Post by: TMKIWI on June 30, 2011, 05:27:00 PM
I found I couldn't two finger it consistently as the pull was too stiff.

What ? ??? ;)
Title: Re: Yz 250 hard clutch pull
Post by: ford832 on June 30, 2011, 05:29:19 PM
Lol,that's all I can say or the wife would get mad at me for telling secrets  ;D
Title: Re: Yz 250 hard clutch pull
Post by: yo_marc on August 04, 2011, 05:19:16 AM
I wanted to ask in that direction too -- did you buy your YZ new, or was it used?  I'm thinking the previous owner may have installed "HD" springs.

I just wanted to make a quick note too -- I have a Magura hydraulic clutch on my RM250 -- it's pull is the same as a cable operated setup.  I bought mine years back -- maybe 7-8 years ago.  I hear they may have changed things up a bit for an easier pull on their aftermarket kits.
Title: Re: Yz 250 hard clutch pull
Post by: hack-man162 on August 10, 2011, 08:40:11 PM
The problem is the Works Connection perch.  Their "pull ratio" is off from stock, and not in a good way.
Title: Re: Yz 250 hard clutch pull
Post by: eprovenzano on August 12, 2011, 02:01:29 PM
My 2000 KTM with a hydro clutch had a stiff clutch pull... I switched out the master cylinter for a newer one and now its like butter....
Title: Re: Yz 250 hard clutch pull
Post by: factoryX on August 14, 2011, 08:15:54 AM
my yz clutch is mild if anything, but its not hard to pull.