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Two Stroke Motocross Forum => General Two Stroke Talk => Topic started by: JohnN on January 21, 2010, 05:11:08 AM

Title: Seem's that two-stroke fans are not the only ones unhappy with the AMA!!!
Post by: JohnN on January 21, 2010, 05:11:08 AM
Here's a quote from Chad Reed from Racer X. He was talking about the knee jerk reaction of the AMA penalizing him for pushing Stewart's head after the Pheonix crash. Of course it turns out that in the crash Reed's hand was broken and he was pushing him to get off his hand!!

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And then the fact that the AMA reacted the way they did is really disappointing, and really quite embarrassing to be a part of it. I have no respect for their decision, and I think Ricky Carmichael summed it up best in 2006, that he was ready to walk away [after losing points due to a fuel violation]. After what happened on the weekend, it makes me count the days ?? months, really, because I have a two-year deal. I??ll be here for two years, and then I??ll be quite happy to walk away from that pathetic governing body.

But ultimately it did get overturned. Cooler heads prevailed. That doesn??t make it all right, but at least you??re not stuck with the penalty...
Yeah, but when you look at the reality of what really happened, and you judge it for what really happened and nothing else, and you don??t have any personal involvement, I think that??s what the head guy is supposed to do at the AMA. I think the head guy at the AMA acted inappropriately and judged based on a previous situation, and I think he judged the whole situation by who it was and who it involved. If it hadn??t have been James or I, it would??ve never been mentioned, but because it was James and I, and it was going to be on TV, and the people jumped up and down and screamed and yelled, then that??s why it got treated that way. I??m just so stunned and blown away with the fact that they could potentially give me a season-ending penalty, along with a $5000 fine, for something that anybody naturally would do with a broken hand, and a bike, and somebody lying on it. Your immediate reaction is to move them off. If it had been a motorcycle on me, and I was getting burned, what do I do? Do I say, ??Oh, my gosh, that??s James Stewart??s motorcycle, so I??d better not touch that aggressively.? At that point, the natural reaction takes over, and you just get that thing off of you. Whether it??s James, or his motorcycle, or his head, at that point, something told me to get it off of me. So I??m disappointed, and maybe in a week or so, I??ll cool down and think otherwise, but at this point, I??m pretty disappointed in the AMA, and I??m not real happy about their decision to penalize me. Remember, this penalty was decided before they even knew I had a broken hand or that I couldn??t race the next race anyway. To potentially take me out of a race for a non-existent violation, I think that??s really inappropriate, and it made them look silly. And they??re consistent at that.

Let's see, the AMA is angering fans, privateer racers and now the top level pros.... does anyone else think it's time for a change???

Title: Re: Seem's that two-stroke fans are not the only ones unhappy with the AMA!!!
Post by: Cable Stretcher on January 21, 2010, 06:36:35 AM
I am thankful that our series is not under the AMA, I love to race but I will not give the American Mafia Association one penny of my money.  They have been currupted for as long as I have been involved with MX.  The sadest part is how they treat privateers and that the poor privateers are so blinded by the excitement that they are PRO riders that they dont even see it.  I also enjoy how it was not even a issue that James knocked over Chads bike in the pits.  If that had been a privateer or anyone else and it had been J$'s bike they would have been band for life.  That child can slam into Kevin or whoever he wants and there is not a word said but let someone start to give some of wat he is serving and oh no they are just out to get him.


.......... I'm stepping off of my soap box, sorry for the rant.
Title: Re: Seem's that two-stroke fans are not the only ones unhappy with the AMA!!!
Post by: 2smoker on January 21, 2010, 03:23:37 PM
http://www.vurbmoto.com/audiolab/shows/dmxs-radio/21/dmxs-post-show-highlights/ (http://www.vurbmoto.com/audiolab/shows/dmxs-radio/21/dmxs-post-show-highlights/)
hahahaha  :D

Listen to the interview! CHad Reed is saying that AMA is completely incompetent and useless.!LOL
Title: Re: Seem's that two-stroke fans are not the only ones unhappy with the AMA!!!
Post by: 2smoker on January 21, 2010, 03:54:00 PM
AMA! LOL! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C42W0dyBC8&feature=player_embedded# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_C42W0dyBC8&feature=player_embedded#)

Al Ludington AMA Pro Racing Technical Director. LOL!
Title: Re: Seem's that two-stroke fans are not the only ones unhappy with the AMA!!!
Post by: offroader on January 21, 2010, 03:59:37 PM
That rider is a lot better person then me.I would knocked that guy out ama ref or not. >:D
Title: Re: Seem's that two-stroke fans are not the only ones unhappy with the AMA!!!
Post by: westsiderippa on January 21, 2010, 04:11:04 PM
here is an interview with bubba from transworld.

http://motocross.transworld.net/videos/james-stewart-speaks/ (http://motocross.transworld.net/videos/james-stewart-speaks/)
Title: Re: Seem's that two-stroke fans are not the only ones unhappy with the AMA!!!
Post by: Cable Stretcher on January 21, 2010, 05:26:12 PM
That video is exactly what I am talking about.  Privateers in the eyes of the AMA are less than the dirt (or in his case the pavement) that they ride on.  Here is a fun fact that the AMA doesn't pay attention to, that privateer paid the same entry fee that the factory rider did, and most of the time it came out of that privateers own pocket not some huge corprate fund that they will write off as advertising when it comes time for taxes.

The rider should have put a wrench to that jerks head, it would have been his last race but one of the most satisfying too.
Title: Re: Seem's that two-stroke fans are not the only ones unhappy with the AMA!!!
Post by: Cable Stretcher on January 21, 2010, 05:30:27 PM
Oh yeah, I watched Jame's so called apology, "like I was like trying to avoid hitting windam (which he did in the main) and thats what caused my first wreck, it was really no ones fault"  "I might of over reacted and let my emotions get the best of me when I went into reeds pits and """bumped""" over his bike, that was the first time that I have ever done that" (BS) 
Title: Re: Seem's that two-stroke fans are not the only ones unhappy with the AMA!!!
Post by: westsiderippa on January 22, 2010, 09:08:12 AM
found this post on another site, great interview with ricky johnson about his thoughts on these 2 babies after phoenix, lol.

http://www.racerxonline.com/article/5-minutes-with-ricky-johnson-1-21-10.aspx (http://www.racerxonline.com/article/5-minutes-with-ricky-johnson-1-21-10.aspx)
Title: Re: Seem's that two-stroke fans are not the only ones unhappy with the AMA!!!
Post by: JohnN on January 22, 2010, 09:20:02 AM
I read the RJ interview and remember the video of the AMA "official".... it really doesn't show our sport in the best light.

Honestly when I watched the crash of Reed and Stewart, my first reaction was ... oh no! This is bad. I may not be popular for saying so, but Reed didn't do anything wrong in that corner. It was just racing... I did ask, why would Reed push Bubba's head like that? But didn't think too much of it, because it wasn't like he punched him or anything.

Plus I remember when Bubba crashed into the back of RC at Unadilla, and RC basically picked up Bubba's bike and threw it... you could tell he was really mad.

This whole situation has been made ridiculous by all the arm chair quarterbacks here on the Internet. It's amazing that folks project so much into a simple race accident. Too bad they didn't use all this energy to do something positive for motocross racing instead.

In this case the AMA has shown itself to be extremely biased. The unfortunate part is that it is not the first, nor will it be the last time they do something so blatantly, biased. No questions asked, if any other racer in the series did what James did in the pits they would have been suspended and fined.

How about applying the rules fairly for all??
Title: Re: Seem's that two-stroke fans are not the only ones unhappy with the AMA!!!
Post by: Helmut Clasen on January 22, 2010, 11:36:03 AM
Here's a quote from Chad Reed from Racer X. He was talking about the knee jerk reaction of the AMA penalizing him for pushing Stewart's head after the Pheonix crash. Of course it turns out that in the crash Reed's hand was broken and he was pushing him to get off his hand!!

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And then the fact that the AMA reacted the way they did is really disappointing, and really quite embarrassing to be a part of it. I have no respect for their decision, and I think Ricky Carmichael summed it up best in 2006, that he was ready to walk away [after losing points due to a fuel violation]. After what happened on the weekend, it makes me count the days ?? months, really, because I have a two-year deal. I??ll be here for two years, and then I??ll be quite happy to walk away from that pathetic governing body.

But ultimately it did get overturned. Cooler heads prevailed. That doesn??t make it all right, but at least you??re not stuck with the penalty...
Yeah, but when you look at the reality of what really happened, and you judge it for what really happened and nothing else, and you don??t have any personal involvement, I think that??s what the head guy is supposed to do at the AMA. I think the head guy at the AMA acted inappropriately and judged based on a previous situation, and I think he judged the whole situation by who it was and who it involved. If it hadn??t have been James or I, it would??ve never been mentioned, but because it was James and I, and it was going to be on TV, and the people jumped up and down and screamed and yelled, then that??s why it got treated that way. I??m just so stunned and blown away with the fact that they could potentially give me a season-ending penalty, along with a $5000 fine, for something that anybody naturally would do with a broken hand, and a bike, and somebody lying on it. Your immediate reaction is to move them off. If it had been a motorcycle on me, and I was getting burned, what do I do? Do I say, ??Oh, my gosh, that??s James Stewart??s motorcycle, so I??d better not touch that aggressively.? At that point, the natural reaction takes over, and you just get that thing off of you. Whether it??s James, or his motorcycle, or his head, at that point, something told me to get it off of me. So I??m disappointed, and maybe in a week or so, I??ll cool down and think otherwise, but at this point, I??m pretty disappointed in the AMA, and I??m not real happy about their decision to penalize me. Remember, this penalty was decided before they even knew I had a broken hand or that I couldn??t race the next race anyway. To potentially take me out of a race for a non-existent violation, I think that??s really inappropriate, and it made them look silly. And they??re consistent at that.

Let's see, the AMA is angering fans, privateer racers and now the top level pros.... does anyone else think it's time for a change???




I used to be a AMA member for many years because of racing in the USA.
To race Vintage I am a member in the AHRMA organisation as well.After I learnt what the AMA did to the AHRMA I quit the AMA and will not be a member anymore until drastic changes are happening.