Two Stroke Motocross
Two Stroke Motocross Forum => General Two Stroke Talk => Topic started by: helfrick15205 on January 23, 2011, 08:43:31 AM
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has any one ever raced a gncc? their are going to be three rounds held within two hours of where i live and i was thinking about doing one or two of them. their are so many classes i don't know where to start. if anyone has raced one, any info on where to start would be appreciated. im 31 and have been riding for 16 years.
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Ride the class you normally ride, and prepare to have your a$$ whooped.
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If my back is up to it I plan to ride some hare scrambles in District 5. I have been riding for 31 years and never raced anything other than BMX, we were always too broke/poor.
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Ah, the days of double goosenecks, V bars, honeycomb mags and snake belly tires.
\I almost forgot the Ever stylish Oakley 3 grips. Man I'm old.
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For those of you that don't know, this is the oakley 3, coolest least functional grip ever ;D
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HAHAH
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never raced in any class.kinda hard to just jump in one.
2011 Bike Classes
Revised 1.11.11
SUNDAY Displacement Plate Number
1 PM PRO RACE (3hr)
XC1 Pro 122cc-Open Red White
XC2 Pro Lites 122-250cc Green White
Open A 251cc-Open White Black
250 A 201-250cc White Black
200 A 122-200cc White Black
4-Stroke A Lites 122-300cc 4-Strk White Black
Vet A (30+) 122cc-Open White Black
Senior A (40+) 122cc-Open White Black
Open B 251cc-Open Yellow Black
250 B 201-250cc Yellow Black
200 B 122-200cc Yellow Black
4-Stroke B Lites 122-300cc 4-Strk Yellow Black
Vet B (30+) 122cc-Open Yellow Black
Senior B (40+) 122cc-Open Yellow Black
10 AM AMATEUR RACE (2 hr)
Women 105cc-Open Blue White
Women Junior (25+) 105cc-Open White Blue
Masters A (50+) 122cc-Open White Black
Masters B/C (50+) 122cc-Open Yellow Black
Golden Masters (58+) 122cc-Open White Black
Super Senior A (45+) 122cc-Open White Black
Super Senior B (45+) 122cc-Open Yellow Black
Open C College (14-21) 251cc-Open Black White
Open C Junior (22+) 251cc-Open Black White
250 C 201-250cc Black White
200 C Schoolboy (12-15) 122-200cc Black White
200 C (16+) 122-200cc Black White
4-Stroke C Lites 122-300cc 4-Str Black White
Vet C (30+) 122cc-Open Black White
Super Vet C (35+) 122cc-Open Black White
Senior C (40+) 122cc-Open Black White
Super Senior C (45+) 122cc-Open Black White
Sportsman A Non-points paying class White Black
Sportsman B Non-points paying class White Black
Trail Rider Casual Competitor; Non-points paying class Black White
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If you have never raced before i would recomend entering the Trail rider class first and just see how you go.
If you kick ass you can then enter a higher class like Vet Cfor the next round. ;)
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Run one of the mourning races, they are 2 hrs and have about 500 people, so you get to pass a lot of people or get passed by a lot of people .If you run the afternoon race with the pros be prepared to be passed like you never been passed before!! i have run them both, the afternoon when i was younger and the am classes now, but untill you have scott summers past you mowing down trees yellin at the top of his lungs u havent been passed!! :D on a true TANK xr600
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yeah the vet c class will be really competitive, if you've never raced before go with the trail class, and check it out.
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ah bmx, don't do it.. ;D
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I used to race BMX, not just ride street... :D. I actually still have a DK Cruiser I ride occasionally.
Ok back on topic. Seems like some good advice here, keep us posted and make sure you post what class you decide and pictures when you do race.
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don't know if i want to any more. its amazing what people will come up with. 2011 ama rule book section 2.3 off road meets
F. Claiming
1. All sanctioned meets are claiming meets. The claiming
price shall be 30 percent over manufacturer suggested
retail price using the Black Book AMA Official Motorcycle
Value Guide, Kelly Blue Book or NADA appraisal guide
and include the complete motorcycle or minicycle. Vintage
and ATV class equipment will be excluded from the
claiming rule.
2. Any rider (claimant) may enter a claim for a motorcycle (or
minicycle) ridden in an event in which the claimant has
competed. A claim must be entered with the referee after
the meet has been completed, but no later than 30
minutes afterward. The referee then notifies the owner of
the claimed motorcycle and may take possession of it.
3. Cash, certified check or bank draft must accompany a
claim. The owner of the claimed machine must
immediately deliver it intact, along with a clear title or bill of
sale.
4. If more than one claim is received for the same
motorcycle, the meet referee will hold a drawing to
determine the successful claimant.
5. If a rider whose motorcycle is claimed refuses to comply,
he must forfeit his trophy, is disqualified from the meet and
will be suspended for one year.
6. A rider may not enter a claim on his own equipment.
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wait, I am so confused. Can someone explain this?
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i think its saying if someone wants your bike they can buy it and you have to give it to them.
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Pretty sure that rule is for pro races only, it's been around since the 70's, I remember Honda almost lost Marty Smith's factory bike back then. The factories were so scared of losing their expensive factory bikes they made their riders ride production bikes.
An excerpt from an article about the '76 Nationals
"It was also the year that the claiming rule went haywire. Almost everyone knows that Mickey Boone tried to claim Bob Hannahâ??s works Yamaha, but hardly anyone knows that another privateer also tried to claim one of Marty Smithâ??s works Hondaâ??s. Another little known fact is that at mid-season Honda came out with a brand new, designed from the ground up, works bike that had Yamaha actually thinking they might lose their grip on the championship. This caused Yamaha to make a very bold move and risk losing their super exotic OW27."
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its a pretty bs rule. i was talking with the old lady and she is up for doing rounds 2,3,and 4 gonna start in the vet c. maybe do one up north. i have til march to get ready.
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I kind of like the rule, because it equals out the playing field by keeping you from dumping money into a bike that might be sold against your will. However, its still bogus, and f-ed up.
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Back in the 70's the claiming fee was $2500 now it's 30 percent of msrp, you'll notice they can't claim vintage bikes ;D
from what I've heard horse races are also claiming races
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...now it's 30 percent of msrp...
Close, not 30% of msrp, but 30% OVER msrp:
1. All sanctioned meets are claiming meets. The claiming
price shall be 30 percent over manufacturer suggested
retail price using the Black Book AMA Official Motorcycle
Value Guide, Kelly Blue Book or NADA appraisal guide
and include the complete motorcycle or minicycle. Vintage
and ATV class equipment will be excluded from the
claiming rule.
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That's the AMA for you.
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If you want to gauge your class/speed just google some vids and judge your speed accordingly as for what class you'd fit.Ill post one over in the vid section.
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Ignore the claiming rule. Pretty much obsolete & has been banned by some race organizations. I don't believe it's even enforceable. In any case, no one is going to want your bike. As for the racing. Do the trail riders class first. In this series the age classes, Vet, Senior, Super Senior, etc., are filled with seasoned racers. Even some of the +50 guys are turning laps faster than the younger B riders. If you doubt that check here & look at the lap times from last year. http://www.racer-results.net/results/gncc/2010/results.asp (http://www.racer-results.net/results/gncc/2010/results.asp) The fact is you can sign up in any class you want. You'll just finish we you're going to finish. That is why the trail rider class makes more sense. Personally, if you've never raced at all, I suggest hitting some local races in your AMA district or CRA, etc. It's cheaper & you'll gain experience. If you're anywhere near district 5 it looks like they are going to have a full schedule for Hare Scrambles this year. And last but not least, relax & have fun. Your not going to be the next David Night or Shane Watts. And you have to work tomorrow, right. :o
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oh yeah, work, :(
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Your first race is kind of like bungy jumping,scary as h*ll at first,and then so much fun once you've taken that first step.Change can be very uncomfortable but I will bet after that first race you'll be hooked.My first race was as a young teenager on a friend's XL250,I entered the beginner's class,got lost and had a great time.
A friend of mine pitted for me at one race,I was 18 at the time.While I was racing my family Boxer broke into this guy's tent and ate his entire KFC meal - bucket of chicken,gravy,fries - everything! At the end of the race this huge guy came over and asked if Shawny was my dog.We became the best of friends and raced everywhere, you meet the nicest people at motorcycle events. ;D
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Didn't Marty Moats make this fameous?? I may be mixed up but I think he was the one who claimed a factory bike.
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Mickey Boone made the first claim on Bob Hannahs bike, the next time a claim was made was by a guy named Bill Barlow for Marty Smiths bike. Those are the only times there has been a claim as far as I know, this was during the '76 National series.
Excerpt from the same article,
"The reason for the claim on Marty Smith's Type 2 by Bill Barlow was in stark contrast to the reason Mickey Boone claimed Bob Hannah's OW27. Boone was a former Honda factory rider who rode works bikes and was now on a production bike and knew the difference that a works bike would make in his results. Barlow on the other hand was a rookie So Cal rider in his first year on the Nationals and had never ridden a works bike before to know the difference."