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Two Stroke Motocross Forum => Non-Moto => Topic started by: ford832 on October 20, 2010, 03:54:08 PM

Title: Edision and The Invention of the Light Bulb
Post by: ford832 on October 20, 2010, 03:54:08 PM
Canada is well known for it's contribution to the advancement of technical excellence  ;) :o

Now there's something I forgot.The light bulb was invented by a Canadian,who then sold the rights to Edison who,naturally,took credit for the invention-the patent says different though.Anyhoo,just think-if not for a Canadian,you Kiwi's would be even more in the dark than you are now-if that's possible :D ;)
Title: Edision and The Invention of the Light Bulb
Post by: JETZcorp on October 21, 2010, 12:44:31 PM
Arrogant Worms - Canada is Really Big (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8ju1Z6o3eY#)
Rocks and Trees-By the Arrogant Worms (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asqWMKju-0A#)
Title: Edision and The Invention of the Light Bulb
Post by: opfermanmotors on October 21, 2010, 10:51:56 PM
The patent says Edison as Inventor
 :D

http://www.google.com/patents?id=IhdhAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4&source=gbs_overview_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false (http://www.google.com/patents?id=IhdhAAAAEBAJ&printsec=abstract&zoom=4&source=gbs_overview_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false)
Title: Edision and The Invention of the Light Bulb
Post by: factoryX on October 21, 2010, 11:44:38 PM
rriigghht, Edison making his own inventions, rofl.
Title: Edision and The Invention of the Light Bulb
Post by: opfermanmotors on October 22, 2010, 08:51:13 AM
Canadians have made some great inventions though.


Red Green Show - A Handy Computer Desk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xP3xiLKJ9_4#)


The Red Green Show Red customizes a car (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGM3-WiEZco#)
Title: Edision and The Invention of the Light Bulb
Post by: factoryX on October 22, 2010, 01:57:12 PM
Red Green - Window Winder (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHBdiEhfNxs#)
Title: Edision and The Invention of the Light Bulb
Post by: ford832 on October 22, 2010, 04:30:32 PM
Right you are opfermanmotors,Edison did get the American patent for it.Largely,I suspect,because he was an American. :D
Rofl all you want factory X,but if you are a history buff at all,you'd realize that people back then and even farther back  in the day of Isaac Newton were likely even more predatory with regards to inventions and ideas than they are today.To have the "idea of the year" or latest invention was often the difference between prosperity and abject poverty.Stealing others ideas and trying to be the first to publish it was rampant.No such thing with regards to the light bulb though,just basic economics.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBYQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.collectionscanada.gc.ca%2Fcool%2F002027-2003-e.html&rct=j&q=canadian%20inventions%20%22light%20bulb%22%22cool%20canada%22&ei=ahvCTJCwMsH98AbCntziBA&usg=AFQjCNEVpMNueoohxtxdryJb8KbBG4qI-Q&sig2=6DIwmro3edl_TByGA4XHZA&cad=rja (http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CBYQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.collectionscanada.gc.ca%2Fcool%2F002027-2003-e.html&rct=j&q=canadian%20inventions%20%22light%20bulb%22%22cool%20canada%22&ei=ahvCTJCwMsH98AbCntziBA&usg=AFQjCNEVpMNueoohxtxdryJb8KbBG4qI-Q&sig2=6DIwmro3edl_TByGA4XHZA&cad=rja)

Now then,I typically get excited when someone dares question my astounding all knowingness,but as you-all Americans typically have a myopic view of the world outside your borders,I'll give you a pass-this time.Just don't let it happen again. :D ;)
Title: Edision and The Invention of the Light Bulb
Post by: factoryX on October 22, 2010, 04:37:21 PM
excuse me? I was simply stating that almost everything Edison said he did, he really didn't do. Nikola Tesla the worlds most famous inventor is unknown because this fool.  I wasn't challenging you or anyone, was simply stating fact.
Title: Edision and The Invention of the Light Bulb
Post by: ford832 on October 22, 2010, 04:53:12 PM
Oops,sorry factory X,I misread-it happens when you get to my advanced years and failing eyesight-among other things:(
Title: Edision and The Invention of the Light Bulb
Post by: factoryX on October 22, 2010, 05:04:08 PM
no biggie dude, at least you know what your talking about.
Title: Edision and The Invention of the Light Bulb
Post by: ford832 on October 22, 2010, 05:16:16 PM
That's not what my wife says :-[ :D
Title: Edision and The Invention of the Light Bulb
Post by: factoryX on October 22, 2010, 05:53:46 PM
lol
Title: Edision and The Invention of the Light Bulb
Post by: JohnN on October 23, 2010, 07:58:57 AM
A little more about Edision and the light-bulb.... seems that the light-bulb was around for nearly 50 years before Edision "invented" it, or more accurately he developed the systems surrounding the light bulb to make it marketable...

Electricity and Lightbulb - History

Thomas Edison's greatest challenge was the development of a practical incandescent, electric light. Contrary to popular belief, he didn't "invent" the lightbulb, but rather he improved upon a 50-year-old idea. In 1879, using lower current electricity, a small carbonized filament, and an improved vacuum inside the globe, he was able to produce a reliable, long-lasting source of light. The idea of electric lighting was not new, and a number of people had worked on, and even developed forms of electric lighting. But up to that time, nothing had been developed that was remotely practical for home use. Edison's eventual achievement was inventing not just an incandescent electric light, but also an electric lighting system that contained all the elements necessary to make the incandescent light practical, safe, and economical. After one and a half years of work, success was achieved when an incandescent lamp with a filament of carbonized sewing thread burned for thirteen and a half hours.

There are a couple of other interesting things about the invention of the light bulb: While most of the attention was on the discovery of the right kind of filament that would work, Edison actually had to invent a total of seven system elements that were critical to the practical application of electric lights as an alternative to the gas lights that were prevalent in that day.

These were the development of:

   1. the parallel circuit,
   2. a durable light bulb,
   3. an improved dynamo,
   4. the underground conductor network,
   5. the devices for maintaining constant voltage,
   6. safety fuses and insulating materials, and
   7. light sockets with on-off switches.

Before Edison could make his millions, every one of these elements had to be invented and then, through careful trial and error, developed into practical, reproducible components. The first public demonstration of the Thomas Edison's incandescent lighting system was in December 1879, when the Menlo Park laboratory complex was electrically lighted. Edison spent the next several years creating the electric industry.

The modern electric utility industry began in the 1880s. It evolved from gas and electric carbon-arc commercial and street lighting systems. On September 4, 1882, the first commercial power station, located on Pearl Street in lower Manhattan, went into operation providing light and electricity power to customers in a one square mile area; the electric age had begun. Thomas Edison's Pearl Street electricity generating station introduced four key elements of a modern electric utility system. It featured reliable central generation, efficient distribution, a successful end use (in 1882, the light bulb), and a competitive price. A model of efficiency for its time, Pearl Street used one-third the fuel of its predecessors, burning about 10 pounds of coal per kilowatt hour, a "heat rate" equivalent of about 138,000 Btu per kilowatt hour. Initially the Pearl Street utility served 59 customers for about 24 cents per kilowatt hour. In the late 1880s, power demand for electric motors brought the industry from mainly nighttime lighting to 24-hour service and dramatically raised electricity demand for transportation and industry needs. By the end of the 1880s, small central stations dotted many U.S. cities; each was limited to a few blocks area because of transmission inefficiencies of direct current (dc).

The success of his electric light brought Thomas Edison to new heights of fame and wealth, as electricity spread around the world. His various electric companies continued to grow until in 1889 they were brought together to form Edison General Electric. Despite the use of Edison in the company title however, he never controlled this company. The tremendous amount of capital needed to develop the incandescent lighting industry had necessitated the involvement of investment bankers such as J.P. Morgan. When Edison General Electric merged with its leading competitor Thompson-Houston in 1892, Edison was dropped from the name, and the company became simply General Electric.

The above is copied from - http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/bledison.htm (http://inventors.about.com/library/inventors/bledison.htm)

As for Nikola Tesla, he was a genius...


Born an ethnic Serb in the village of Smiljan, Croatian Military Frontier in Austrian Empire, Tesla was a subject of the Austrian Empire by birth and later became an American citizen. Because of his 1894 demonstration of wireless communication through radio and as the eventual victor in the "War of Currents", he was widely respected as one of the greatest electrical engineers who worked in America. He pioneered modern electrical engineering and many of his discoveries were of groundbreaking importance. In the United States during this time, Tesla's fame rivaled that of any other inventor or scientist in history or popular culture. Tesla demonstrated wireless energy transfer  to power electronic devices as early as 1893, and aspired to intercontinental wireless transmission of industrial power in his unfinished Wardenclyffe Tower project.

Because of his eccentric personality and his seemingly unbelievable and sometimes bizarre claims about possible scientific and technological developments, Tesla was ultimately ostracized and regarded as a mad scientist by many late in his life. Tesla never put much focus on his finances and died with little funds at the age of 86, alone in the two room hotel suite in which he lived, in New York City.

In addition to his work on electromagnetism and electromechanical engineering, Tesla contributed in varying degrees to the establishment of robotics, remote control, radar, and computer science, and to the expansion of ballistics, nuclear physics, and theoretical physics.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikola_Tesla)
Title: Re: Edision and The Invention of the Light Bulb
Post by: SachsGS on October 23, 2010, 09:42:03 AM
Alexander Graham Bell was at various times a resident of the British Isles, Canada and the U.S.. He is buried in the Maritimes of Canada.

Boeing initially set up shop in Vancouver, British Columbia before moving to Seattle, Washington.
Title: Re: Edision and The Invention of the Light Bulb
Post by: ford832 on October 24, 2010, 04:43:48 AM
Now THERE'S some good info-thanks for posting John.
I took the little one to the A Graham Bell museum in Cape Breton last year.Very interesting.Amazingly smart,far sighted man who had his hands in more projects at the same time than you could imagine.
Title: Re: Edision and The Invention of the Light Bulb
Post by: TMKIWI on November 05, 2010, 03:58:16 PM
Another Canadian invention thats improved the quality of life. :D

Red Green Show - One Man - Two Man Saw (2) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-4AiMzvqrA#)
Title: Re: Edision and The Invention of the Light Bulb
Post by: ford832 on November 08, 2010, 01:33:54 PM
Yet another example of typical Canadian ingenuity  8) :D
Title: Re: Edision and The Invention of the Light Bulb
Post by: JohnN on November 08, 2010, 02:30:13 PM
I love it....

Is that some kind of shoe on tv or something? He's very funny....
Title: Re: Edision and The Invention of the Light Bulb
Post by: ford832 on November 08, 2010, 03:00:17 PM
It's a show up here called "The Red Green Show"His name is Steve Smith.He and his wife,Morag,are comedians and used to have a show on a number of years ago called "Smith and Smith"
Title: Re: Edision and The Invention of the Light Bulb
Post by: factoryX on November 08, 2010, 03:04:13 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Red_Green_Show (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Red_Green_Show)
Title: Re: Edision and The Invention of the Light Bulb
Post by: JohnN on November 08, 2010, 04:34:28 PM
 I said shoe!!! Ha ha ha ha!!
Title: Re: Edision and The Invention of the Light Bulb
Post by: Hondacrrider on November 08, 2010, 06:15:34 PM
Haha gotta love the Red Green show.
Title: Re: Edision and The Invention of the Light Bulb
Post by: Hondacrrider on November 08, 2010, 09:19:47 PM
Oh and I do believe our tracks are gnarlier..
http://www.youtube.com/user/cmrcracing#p/u/48/KkMAzfnoVVs (http://www.youtube.com/user/cmrcracing#p/u/48/KkMAzfnoVVs)
Title: Re: Edision and The Invention of the Light Bulb
Post by: factoryX on November 08, 2010, 10:10:40 PM
lol, does that moron think thats a yz450f?   :o
Title: Re: Edision and The Invention of the Light Bulb
Post by: Coop on November 09, 2010, 04:54:16 AM
It's a show up here called "The Red Green Show"...

They play it here too. It's funny. I never seem to catch it on because I don't watch much TV anymore. But when I do stumble upon it, I always end up watching it LOL.
Title: Re: Edision and The Invention of the Light Bulb
Post by: snowboarderro on November 09, 2010, 07:36:18 AM
bet you didin't knew this about my nation

A World Without Romania (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1SVTsqdhedM#)
Title: Re: Edision and The Invention of the Light Bulb
Post by: IPoopPickles on December 05, 2010, 08:14:29 PM
Tesla's inventions are of course immense... but I was always amazed by the inventions of Joseph Henry.  He is the guy who discovered magnetic self induction, although I think Farady is credited with it... In testing his theories about self induction, he had to make a coil.  Back in his days wire didnt have insulation, so he had to make his own insulation for his conductors.  He took one of his wifes silk coats, stripped the silk strands off of it and by hand wound silk around his conductors that he used in a coil.  That just blows me away that the guy would go through all that trouble, basically for the hell of it; to see if it would work.  Amazing. 

His induction motors, and coils to me are some of the most important inventions in the electrical field, as are the principles behind them.
Title: Re: Edision and The Invention of the Light Bulb
Post by: msmola2002 on December 05, 2010, 09:19:37 PM
Frank McEncroe holds a special place in my heart.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiko_Roll (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chiko_Roll)