Two Stroke Motocross
Two Stroke Motocross Forum => Technical => Topic started by: keeptwostrokesalive on September 03, 2010, 04:27:48 AM
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I previously used gas to clean my no toil air filter, now all of a sudden its tearing up my filter. What can i use to clean my air filter with out tearing it up, and i dont want to order the no toil cleaner or anything like that. I need something that i can use now so i can go riding this weekend. Please let me know what you guys use
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I unfortunately am having the same problem, so bad in fact that my filter separated. The two parts of the filter(the red and the cream colour) must have lost their glue. So, as a quick fix, I stuck it back together with grease. As for what you could use to prevent this again, my can of No toil oil says that you must use their cleaner, but I say forget that. What I have been finding to work is if you quickly dip your filter in varsol or gas just simply to get rid of the oil(not clean it completely), and then soak it in hot soapy water. This does not eat up your filter as much, and your filter comes out really clean. But from personal experience, don't clean the filter in your Mom's sink... :D
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Never use gas to clean your filter,gas eats filters. The cheapest cleaner is kerosine,it doesn,t eat filters,you still use soapy water after to clean.
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I had a problem with No Toil cleaner as well. There formula works great as long as you use their filters. If you use any other brand filter it will affect the glue used to hold the filter together. Rendering your filter DOA.
When you use gasoline it's a pain to get rid of the dirty gas, unless you dump it in your yard or put it into a container to recycle at the parts store along with your used oil.
I have found a product from England that does great job using a water based cleaner.
One of the reasons I have been noticeably absent from the forum is because I am the new distributor of Pro Clean products for the US and Canada. There is so much that must get done very quickly, including building the web site, which is not yet complete.
I have the products in stock and ready to ship. Since I have not completed the shopping cart yet, if anyone from this forum orders these products in the continental USA I will ship your order FREE!
We tested the Filter Cleaner and it works really well.. is safe for filters and is easy to dispose of.
Feel free to poke around the site. http://www.proclean-racingusa.com (http://www.proclean-racingusa.com)
I'd love to hear your feedback and constructive criticism.
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Thanks for your inputs guys. I took the filter over to a friends house today and used kerosine on the filter. It worked pretty good and so far it hasnt fallen apart. :P
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Way back when I bought Twin Air filter cleaner and paid mucho dinero for it.When I used it,it smelled like kerosene,felt like kerosene-and was kerosene-only with blue dye.When I mentioned it to the guy I bought it from he said-yeah,but it's a pretty blue isn't it :D Never use gas-as stated it eats the glue.After the Kerosene treatment,wash and rinse with soapy water and let dry.Bio stuff like Johns sounds ideal though.
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I use Maxima filter cleaner in a spray can,just spray it on and hose it off,then i clean the filter in Dawn dishwasing soap throughly,let it dry then i use Maxima spray on filter oil to finish it off......easiest way i've found and it works really well for me....... ;D Oh and all NoToil stuff sucks,i've always run Twin Air Filters on all my bikes with 0 problems ever
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Oh and all NoToil stuff sucks,i've always run Twin Air Filters on all my bikes with 0 problems ever [/b][/i][/font][/color]
I agree ;D
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Spray on oil is ok if you're in a real hurry but the bottled stuff is better for consistent coverage.
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Well I'm really good with the spray and I don't have a very big work area. I use twinair filters clean it with
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Then rinse with warm water
After it dries, (or using an already dried filter)
I treat it with
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Yep, I use the spray on oil and cleaner.
Best option avaliable.
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Easiest option,not the best. :)
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Easiest option,not the best. :)
Oh Ford,
A simple mantra of mine.
Easiest, so therefore, by default the Best ;D ;D
I own a two stroke, so by nature I'm lazy.
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I fill a bucket with HOT water and dish soap. Then I spray the filter generously with Simple Green, work it into the filter, and then it soak 10-15 minutes. Then I put it in the bucket and clean it well. Works for me and it's cheap.
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Easiest option,not the best. :)
Oh Ford,
A simple mantra of mine.
Easiest, so therefore, by default the Best ;D ;D
I own a two stroke, so by nature I'm lazy.
Lol :D
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I fill a bucket with HOT water and dish soap. Then I spray the filter generously with Simple Green, work it into the filter, and then it soak 10-15 minutes. Then I put it in the bucket and clean it well. Works for me and it's cheap.
Interesting.I always use simple green automotive(same as household only not diluted)when I wash the bike but never thought about using it as filter cleaner-I must try it.I doubt it's cheaper than kerosene(around here anyway)but more enviro for sure.As for dish soap-Dawn is by far the best as a bike wash.
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I am always hesitant to use things like gas, kero, etc., as cleaner. One is the smell (I HATE it on both) and two is disposal. I almost got fined about 5 years ago. We ran out of heating oil and I was pouring some in out of 5 gallon cans, I accidentally spilled a very small amount, maybe a 2-3 cups at most. I actually came home to a note on my door that said to find a way to clean it up (NO idea who saw me or turned me in) and if happens again I will be fined. So I am very paranoid now about disposing anything like gas, oil, or kero because I obviously have a busy-body neighbor.
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I am always hesitant to use things like gas, kero, etc., as cleaner. One is the smell (I HATE it on both) and two is disposal. I almost got fined about 5 years ago. We ran out of heating oil and I was pouring some in out of 5 gallon cans, I accidentally spilled a very small amount, maybe a 2-3 cups at most. I actually came home to a note on my door that said to find a way to clean it up (NO idea who saw me or turned me in) and if happens again I will be fined. So I am very paranoid now about disposing anything like gas, oil, or kero because I obviously have a busy-body neighbor.
Why would anyone care if it is in your own yard? It's your yard, you can do with it as you please, can you not?
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Not really,1l of oil contaminates 100,000l of ground water.While coops little mishap is really neither here nor there,if it happened to everyone,it's a big problem.As for disposal,I guess I'm fortunate as I just take my used stuff in to work.We have a disposal tank that the recyclers pump out.
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Why would anyone care if it is in your own yard? It's your yard, you can do with it as you please, can you not?
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Only if you are BP. :-X
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Why would anyone care if it is in your own yard? It's your yard, you can do with it as you please, can you not?
Only if you are BP. :-X
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Lol. :D
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The truth is that using toxic chemicals for air filters is not the best way to go anymore.
If there are better ways to accomplish the same goal out there, why don't you try them for yourself and see what you think?
If you like it, you can adopt it and if you don't like it, look for something better.
Sticking with the saying, "well that's just the way we did it in the past" is no longer a good enough reason to keep your head buried in the sand.
As for BP and the oil spill... it will go the same way that stuff like this seems to go... the government will fine BP. Then BP will do one of two things, raise prices to pay for the fine or threaten the government that they will go out of business unless they get tax incentives and breaks to pay the fines. Either way the taxpayer will pay the bill...
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I was at the gas station about a month ago and my friend had some old gas he needed to get rid of so he asked the gas station about it. They said dump it in the grass behind the garbage bins. This was about 5 gallons worth of gas, BTW.
I believe this one was a Shell gas station.
I've always used hot soapy water for my air filters and then let them dry out.
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I was at the gas station about a month ago and my friend had some old gas he needed to get rid of so he asked the gas station about it. They said dump it in the grass behind the garbage bins. This was about 5 gallons worth of gas, BTW.
I believe this one was a Shell gas station.
Well just because a gas station employee said to do that does not make it ok. You would not get Shell to endorse that as an official disposal technique :D
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Ya, I thought gas stations were supposed to have disposals for old gas.
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any of the filter cleaners that are on the market, or you can use break clean