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Two Stroke Motocross Forum => General Two Stroke Talk => Topic started by: JohnN on August 29, 2010, 05:51:59 PM

Title: Southwick update - Project Two 50
Post by: JohnN on August 29, 2010, 05:51:59 PM
By now you all must know that we did not make it into the Main event.

We experienced so more "gremlins" in the first practice... it seems that Mike lost 4th gear on the third lap of the first qualifier.

The team performed a heroic engine swap in less than an hour. Switching out the bottom end from the practice bike to the race bike and installing the race bike top end.

Mike went out but shortly after he started to get going the rear brake guard came loose and scraped on the rear disc, filling the rear caliper with plastic. Which slowed the bike considerably....

More news to follow.....
Title: Re: Southwick update - Project Two 50
Post by: 2smoker on August 29, 2010, 06:01:47 PM
argghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :(
Title: Re: Southwick update - Project Two 50
Post by: keeptwostrokesalive on August 29, 2010, 06:42:22 PM
I swear honda has got to be sending someone to screw up your bike while yall arent looking.  Why does this keep happening to you guys.  Man this freakin sucks.
Title: Re: Southwick update - Project Two 50
Post by: JETZcorp on August 29, 2010, 06:48:05 PM
It could be worse.  Way back in the days of yore, Ake Jonsson was in an epic battle with Roger DeCoster for the world Championship.  Whoever won this race was guaranteed to take the overall victory for the planet.  DeCoster was already "The Man" with multiple trophies but Jonsson, riding for a small German factory had the lead and was going to take the championship.

Then the spark plug wire came loose, and he lost it all.  The spark plug wire!  That's like the motocross equivalent of being in a gun duel with Wild Bill, and losing because you slipped on a banana peel.  After this set-back, Jonsson went out again later, competed in two classes simultaneously, and set a record for the sheer number of first-place wins in a season for one man (spread across two classes, remember), which I believe has yet to be broken.

Moral of the story is, don't beat yourselves up over this, it's not your fault.  Apparently the metal simply can't take the amount of raw awesomeness that P250 is putting out.  All you can do is go back to that big dial of P250 awesomeness that goes on a scale of one to ten, and then stencil in a little number eleven and point the dial to that!  Things can fail when your awesomeness is 10/10, but that bottom-end wouldn't dare mess with an 11/10!

You might also try mixing in some nitroglycerin with your fuel, I find 50:1 is a good mix.  Not nitromethane, nitroglycerin's your stuff.
Title: Re: Southwick update - Project Two 50
Post by: RideRedMx2 on August 29, 2010, 06:52:22 PM
I swear honda has got to be sending someone to screw up your bike while yall arent looking.  Why does this keep happening to you guys.  Man this freakin sucks.


 :-X
Title: Re: Southwick update - Project Two 50
Post by: JETZcorp on August 29, 2010, 06:58:46 PM
I swear honda has got to be sending someone to screw up your bike while yall arent looking.  Why does this keep happening to you guys.  Man this freakin sucks.


 :-X

Nah, it's not Honda.  It's the engine Gremlins!

(http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/attachments/international-automotive-scene/118634d1238526307-day-automotive-history-amc-gremlin-small-.jpg)

Hold on... is it the engine Gremlins... or the Gremlin engines... I don't know?
Title: Re: Southwick update - Project Two 50
Post by: maicoman009 on August 29, 2010, 09:37:13 PM
I know after seeing the recent video of Mike here on TSM that it's definetly NOT his fault! That guy is one heck of a GREAT MX rider & I just know that his "glory day"is coming soon! Project250 deserves a podium finish & if Mike keeps riding as well as he's been he WILL get there....... ;)
Title: Re: Southwick update - Project Two 50
Post by: SwapperMX on August 29, 2010, 09:42:29 PM
MAN,

You guys deserve some luck. I am hoping like crazy that it comes this week. Put in a solid week of testing and go and show the world how good you guys really are  !!!!!!

 ;)
Title: Re: Southwick update - Project Two 50
Post by: 2smoker on August 29, 2010, 09:44:36 PM
I know after seeing the recent video of Mike here on TSM that it's definetly NOT his fault! That guy is one heck of a GREAT MX rider & I just know that his "glory day"is coming soon! Project250 deserves a podium finish & if Mike keeps riding as well as he's been he WILL get there....... ;)

I totally support that sentence! ;D
Title: Re: Southwick update - Project Two 50
Post by: 2smoker on August 29, 2010, 09:44:53 PM
I swear honda has got to be sending someone to screw up your bike while yall arent looking.  Why does this keep happening to you guys.  Man this freakin sucks.


 :-X

hahahahaha!!!!
Title: Re: Southwick update - Project Two 50
Post by: Coop on August 30, 2010, 03:10:23 AM
Man I thought I had bad luck...

The 4th gear thing was a fluke, as far as the brake guard it sounds like maybe the vibes from the tranny issue probably caused a few bolts to work loose. With the excitement of the hurried engine swap it would be easy to not the have time/forget to take the normal "one last pass" race mechanics take to make sure all the fasteners are tight.

When I saw the YZ125 turned faster laps than the Project Two50 bike I knew something had to have happened again. You poor guys can't buy a break this year.
Title: Re: Southwick update - Project Two 50
Post by: Paul P on August 30, 2010, 05:34:34 AM
Jetz, you must be pretty young, info you have has been second handed quite a few times.
  AKe's bike had the short reach plug fall out near the end of a 45 minute moto. They tried spot welding the plug for the second moto, but it failed again. ( from an interview in 72) The win streak was the 72 Trans-Am. He won 9 overalls out of 11 proving the bikes were not fragile like the magazines were hyping them to be.
      Sorry to hear about the problems from Southwick. I had a bummer year like that back in the 70's. I went to the first 6 events in NESC 250 expert and got taken out in qualifiers in every one after very promising speed in practices, even flat out passing the point leaders. Then the bike blew and that was it for my season.
      Use every event as a learning experience.
                           Paul
Title: Re: Southwick update - Project Two 50
Post by: JohnN on August 30, 2010, 06:10:26 AM
as far as the brake guard it sounds like maybe the vibes from the tranny issue probably caused a few bolts to work loose.

You know it would be alright if that were the case, but the bolt was still tight in the frame!! The guard broke off the mount and pulled off right around the bolt.

Crazy strange stuff!
Title: Re: Southwick update - Project Two 50
Post by: Coop on August 30, 2010, 08:42:25 AM
You know it would be alright if that were the case, but the bolt was still tight in the frame!! The guard broke off the mount and pulled off right around the bolt.

Crazy strange stuff!

Wow! That is really weird. When you said it came loose in your first post I wrongly assumed the bolts came loose, haha.
Title: Re: Southwick update - Project Two 50
Post by: Watson777 on August 30, 2010, 08:39:00 PM
Man John, sounds like you guys are having the same luck as me on a typical weekend
Title: Re: Southwick update - Project Two 50
Post by: Super Trucker on August 30, 2010, 09:48:15 PM
Dam you guys are having bad luck, I know the YZ 125 likes to blowup gears, I never heard about the 250 blowing gears though, riders like to keep it a secret, so they can sell there bikes. Truth is all bikes blow gears up, Honda is the least likely though. Have you guys thought about building a 125 for arenacross, the riders are testing right now for the up coming season.
Title: Re: Southwick update - Project Two 50
Post by: SwapperMX on August 30, 2010, 10:02:27 PM
Dam you guys are having bad luck, I know the YZ 125 likes to blowup gears, I never heard about the 250 blowing gears though, riders like to keep it a secret, so they can sell there bikes. Truth is all bikes blow gears up, Honda is the least likely though. Have you guys thought about building a 125 for arenacross, the riders are testing right now for the up coming season.

Dude,

Not having a go at you, but you do have some sketchy ideas from time to time. A 125 to race arenacross on, is virtual moto suicide. There is only one class that gets any attention, and you would get smoked on a 125, no matter who was riding it. Sponsors would run for the hills faster than it takes to do one arenacross lap.
Title: Re: Southwick update - Project Two 50
Post by: Super Trucker on August 30, 2010, 10:22:09 PM
Back when arenacross was 125 and 250 2-st. the 125,s had faster lap times.
Title: Re: Southwick update - Project Two 50
Post by: 2smoker on August 30, 2010, 11:08:45 PM
Back when arenacross was 125 and 250 2-st. the 125,s had faster lap times.

he is right.. Raced both classes Arenacross .
Title: Re: Southwick update - Project Two 50
Post by: SwapperMX on August 30, 2010, 11:58:12 PM
Two important words, "Back when"

 :-X
Title: Re: Southwick update - Project Two 50
Post by: JETZcorp on August 31, 2010, 02:16:01 AM
I always kind of figured the 125 would have its best shot on really tight tracks where it could put the on/off power and featherweight characteristics to bear.  Sounds like that's incorrect, though?
Title: Re: Southwick update - Project Two 50
Post by: Super Trucker on September 02, 2010, 12:10:21 PM
I had crazy bad Luck also, way too many things went wrong to list. But I know my speed is decent yet, last year I got 3 laps in, this year 1st ride my speed is top 3 30A, everything went wrong and the season is a wash. I  made a semi PRO basketball team in 98, and had numerous breaks in my back,bone spurs grew out of the cracks, and grew into the ruptured disk and nerve canal. So after 15 years of not touching a basketball, I worked on a drill rig 9.5 yrs. and other rotten jobs. In 10th grade I had numerous div.1 scouts at my games, and packed the gym, strangers in the hall yelling my name, and the field house was crazy-with screaming the whole game. In 11 th grade I wanted spending money, so I got a job at a gas station,and was having so much fun that I never went out for the team in 11 th grade. So in 98 I got the fever,I got a free membership at a div.1 university from a atheletic director from a diff. school, and worked with other players that had pro contracts. I,m 6,1 .5 and 170 way under size,and white, extremely quick 1st step,and can shoot the lights out, 75 baseline 3 pointers in a row, good enough to get payed being a shooting coach for the girls team, who lead UCONN at half time in the sweetsixteen, Borseth the coach is now at Michigan st. A full ride d.1 scharlorship is just like a factory ride, but you hv. coaches,etc. riding your butt everyday,etc. Even in h.s. there school staff meetings, because I would be in trouble after shool, having 1/2 barrell parties,etc.,they wanted me to live at the athelitic directors house, to keep an eye on me.My Mom worked 3to 11pm and my dad wasn,t in the picture at all, so I did what I wanted to do.I didn,t like the pressure the school put on my Mom,I Loved the game pressure that everyone puts on you to win. Even in 5th grade playing other schools,the school and community expects you to win, I had a huge Indian guy on the flour during a game,cursing at me and saying he,s going to beat me,that just makes me play better,my favorite games were away games, skipping down the flour pointing at there coach or fans after a shot, they boo and yell at you and at a time out, they yell negative stuff at you, it,s funny. I  wanted to do the same in MX,but there so much organizing,parts to break and buy, you drive out of town to ride and  it,s pouring rain, just so many things to go wrong.
Title: Re: Southwick update - Project Two 50
Post by: ford832 on September 02, 2010, 01:32:32 PM
I don't do drugs :o
Title: Re: Southwick update - Project Two 50
Post by: TxTechRedRider on September 02, 2010, 04:19:40 PM
ST hows the back.
You been able to ride lately?
Title: Re: Southwick update - Project Two 50
Post by: Super Trucker on September 02, 2010, 11:05:18 PM
The back is better  the nerve pain is gone, just sore. My hip is messed up, that effects everything to the knee. I still tried to ride last sat., the track was unrideable basketball size rock clay balls, so I  just rode the whoops-small doubles,and  a couple starts on the 06. Thanks for asking  TX. , how is your 125 have you been riding recently. I  posted that basketball stuff, to give hope. Sometimes you can step away from  your sport and step back in and make your mark.
Title: Re: Southwick update - Project Two 50
Post by: SwapperMX on September 03, 2010, 04:36:37 AM
I don't do drugs :o

 ???     ???      :P

Haha, Me neither !!
Title: Re: Southwick update - Project Two 50
Post by: TxTechRedRider on September 03, 2010, 04:07:55 PM
ST,
I hope the hip and leg gets better. Sounds like that last track you rode was in not-so-good shape. :o
I havent been riding yet, yep had the bike for, what?, 4 weeks?  Been busy working side jobs and any employment possible
to pay the bills and for the bike. It also has been in the triple digits here seemingly every day until just recently.
Thought this weekend would be the one, but it has been raining for 3 straight days.
Perhaps sunday or monday if it dries out some.
Do you ever put a rail behind the cab and stick one of those cr125 back there and take it with you on the long hauls around the country.
Do they even make a track you can mount behind the cab and put your bike on? would be cool if possible.
Get well and keep on riding red.  :D

Todd
Title: Re: Southwick update - Project Two 50
Post by: Super Trucker on September 04, 2010, 11:14:02 AM
Tx. your lucky to have a new cr125, in a perfect world it would be great to ride everyday. At least you have the equipment and a long riding season, it will all work out for you eventually. I like riding in the hummid weather,it loosens  you up, sat. and sunday here the high is only 62 degrees and windy,some rain,freezing. A  bike on the back of the truck, wouldn,t work, a  bicycle maybe,were loaded over weight alot of the time. I,m stuck here for another month,dental apts. 14 th and 29th, if it was April I would drive a tour bus for a band,that would be very diff. from trucking-pulling 4,800 lb. palletts out and finger print every case, 45,000. I got a big loan, that,s security for maybe buying a truck, so I,m looking for a co. that,s paying good rates, then I could claim the interest and many other things, and drive a truck that I love,it makes everyday awesome,driving a truck that sounds great,looks killer and your extremely proud of.
Title: Re: Southwick update - Project Two 50
Post by: TxTechRedRider on September 07, 2010, 08:12:14 PM
ST,
I hope you are able to get the truck and I know things will come around for you and start looking up for all of us.
I got to take my new 07 Cr125 out sunday to a local place, mostly trails, a pretty muddy track and some other small cleared areas to practice corners and simulated whoops.  There were more 2ts than 4ts which was great.  3 Cr250, 1 Cr125, 1 Ktm 150, 2 Yz250's and perhaps five 4 strokes and most
of those were xr's a couple 450r's .
I changed the oil, drained the gas, put in a 420, 2-1/4 turns out, filled the tank with 32:1, 927 maxima, let it warm up, shut it off waited a while then let it warm up again, shut it off, waited a while then took off. Oh boy, my face was all smiles.  It took about 15 minutes to get used to the bike, but after that I was on the pipe as much as possible.  That Maxima(first time using it), was awesome.  I  honestly think this bike, 07 Cr125 handles better than my stolen, 06 Cr125 did, is it that possible?   It corners like its on a rail and the power coming out of the turn put me back in the seat.
What a blast I had, and I didnt foul a plug. What a concept, riding without fouling a plug and pushing the bike back to camp.  ;D 
I'm looking forward to next sunday.