Post by: SachsGS on November 23, 2012, 05:23:22 PM
Post by: _X_ on November 23, 2012, 05:58:20 PM
Post by: gpnewhouse7 on November 23, 2012, 07:08:48 PM
Post by: Uniflow on November 23, 2012, 10:29:26 PM
Post by: motoxr377 on November 23, 2012, 11:01:04 PM
Post by: 2T Institute on November 23, 2012, 11:15:30 PM
I wonder how much the control module will cost if it craps out...
very expensive
http://au.suntekstore.com/goods.php?id=14002219&utm_source=gbau
3 axis
http://www.freetronics.com/products/3-axis-accelerometer-module
Post by: gpnewhouse7 on November 23, 2012, 11:53:23 PM
If people didn't keep modernising stuff then we would all still be riding air cooled foopers with girder forks and short travel twin shocks.
Post by: 2SEVEN3 on November 24, 2012, 12:19:43 AM
Post by: _X_ on November 24, 2012, 12:21:38 AM
Post by: gpnewhouse7 on November 24, 2012, 12:45:50 AM
I used to quite enjoy rebuilding my bikes and generally aintaining and fixing things on them while I was at home but when I got to a track I wanted to ride not mess around with clickers and jetting.
Post by: Uniflow on November 24, 2012, 02:20:02 AM
In saying that I can't wait for this reed valve "flash in the pan" to finish and we can revert back to Rotary Valve!
Post by: Dirt Addict on November 24, 2012, 02:29:28 AM
Post by: factoryX on November 24, 2012, 02:48:47 AM
Post by: 2SEVEN3 on November 24, 2012, 04:35:42 AM
Like i said, more danger for SERIOUS injury. No doubt that some of the technology could help safety, but When you have to go bigger and bigger to push it to the limits it just makes your mistakes that much more serious.
Post by: factoryX on November 24, 2012, 08:21:12 AM
Post by: shanes on November 24, 2012, 09:37:07 AM
Average off road rider? Yes. Professional racing? No. Where is the fine line of who actually is doing the riding? The bike or the rider? F1 had this suspension in the early 90's and was removed due to this fact. It will simply allow people to ride faster, and that isn't always a good thing. Modern GP has 135lb(If not lighter) riders on 200hp 1000cc bikes. How? Traction control...
i have a 200hp 1000 cc full superbike with out traction control , its a lot of fun to ride
Post by: gpnewhouse7 on November 24, 2012, 10:34:04 AM
All of the technology is cool, and will make bikes go even faster... even with less skilled riders. Todays bikes are fast enough, take out the "fight" for traction and add "auto adjust suspension" and the tracks will just get more crazy to keep up. This would both add cost to an already expensive sport, and add more danger for serious injuries when it becomes common for your local track to have 4th gear 160ft quads... like this one
Like i said, more danger for SERIOUS injury. No doubt that some of the technology could help safety, but When you have to go bigger and bigger to push it to the limits it just makes your mistakes that much more serious.
Jumps have been getting bigger and bigger ever since motocross began. Modern bikes can do much larger jumps than the old short travel suspension and they do them more safely. Besides as bikes develop so will the safety gear that is used when riding them.
Post by: factoryX on November 24, 2012, 10:44:23 AM
Average off road rider? Yes. Professional racing? No. Where is the fine line of who actually is doing the riding? The bike or the rider? F1 had this suspension in the early 90's and was removed due to this fact. It will simply allow people to ride faster, and that isn't always a good thing. Modern GP has 135lb(If not lighter) riders on 200hp 1000cc bikes. How? Traction control...
i have a 200hp 1000 cc full superbike with out traction control , its a lot of fun to ride
Post by: factoryX on November 24, 2012, 11:06:12 AM
All of the technology is cool, and will make bikes go even faster... even with less skilled riders. Todays bikes are fast enough, take out the "fight" for traction and add "auto adjust suspension" and the tracks will just get more crazy to keep up. This would both add cost to an already expensive sport, and add more danger for serious injuries when it becomes common for your local track to have 4th gear 160ft quads... like this one
Like i said, more danger for SERIOUS injury. No doubt that some of the technology could help safety, but When you have to go bigger and bigger to push it to the limits it just makes your mistakes that much more serious.
Jumps have been getting bigger and bigger ever since motocross began. Modern bikes can do much larger jumps than the old short travel suspension and they do them more safely. Besides as bikes develop so will the safety gear that is used when riding them.
This would be due to modern suspension. Old bikes can be launched as well. And as for safety gear, sure didn't help Jantz out any...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=snXBBpl3oEw
Post by: shanes on November 24, 2012, 11:35:22 AM
Jumps have been getting bigger and bigger ever since motocross began. Modern bikes can do much larger jumps than the old short travel suspension and they do them more safely. Besides as bikes develop so will the safety gear that is used when riding them.
there are some other videos on youtube , one on board view and yes the jump is big but its not huge and has a safe landing
Post by: ford832 on November 24, 2012, 03:27:20 PM
Post by: SachsGS on November 24, 2012, 04:33:15 PM
Back around 1997 KTM introduced the PDS system and it was lighter,cheaper,easier to maintain and allowed for a better airbox design (more power). The rate rise in this system was achieved hydraulically rather then mechanically as in a conventional single shock rising rate set up. I wonder if with a system like the Sachs we'll see a rear suspension that is non linkage with programmable electronic/hydraulic rate rise?
Post by: factoryX on November 24, 2012, 09:01:02 PM
Post by: ford832 on November 24, 2012, 09:59:03 PM
Post by: Jeram on November 24, 2012, 10:44:49 PM
?Post by: msmola2002 on November 25, 2012, 01:50:14 AM
Am I the only one who thinks that advancing technology is a good thing?
I disagree. I believe every automobile/motorcycle owner should adjust their ignition advance manually with a lever. If it is good enough for a Ford Model T, or an old Indian, it should be good enough for you or those highfalootin perfessional racers.
Electronics are the devil!
/getoffmylawn
Post by: SachsGS on November 25, 2012, 01:58:41 AM
Post by: TMKIWI on November 25, 2012, 07:44:16 AM
Post by: shanes on November 25, 2012, 07:48:13 AM
Im pretty sure these forks have been around for a while now, the pikes peak multistrada's had these forks last year didnt they?
No they are not , they have only 3 setting that you can change for different conditions , they are not self correcting or does the system have a brain to work out the best setting