Two Stroke Motocross
Two Stroke Motocross Forum => Photos & Videos => Topic started by: JETZcorp on May 02, 2010, 08:43:20 PM
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Sorry, Opferman if you were waiting to post this, but I just had to share your video as soon as I saw it. This, ladies and gentlemen, is why no one can shut up about 490s.
Trask - Ankur Rides the 1982 Maico 490 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwz-BXC0Kyc&playnext_from=TL&videos=sEQt_6LIcQs&feature=sub#ws)
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Maybe he needs to get a PW80 instead. LOL
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What happened? Were they testing the camera? :-*
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Talking about cameras, does anyone know of a good helmet cam that records good sound.
I was going to get a Vholdr but the reports are all they record is massive wind noise.
I want to record my rides with decent audio so i can hear that big TM scream.
Cheers for any advice.
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Gopro seems to be about as good as any though you do get noise when branches and such wack it.Maybe if you did what they do on regular mics when in windy condition-like a piece of air filter foam over the mic inlet.Worth a shot anyway.
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Where was the guy riding the Maico?It seemed after he "broke down" alongside the road we didn't see him until the end. :o ;D
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My recommendation for a camera would be a ContourHD, and then get an independent mic to get your sound. The GoPro is a good unit, but I personally don't like that wacky make-the-earth-look-like-it's-half-a-mile-across lens. And if I recall correctly, you either have to buy the standard GoPro or get the full-on mega 1080p monster camera of death. They also tend to look a little goofy compared with the sleek ContourHD. With the Contour, you can get a much cheaper 720p option, or go all the way to 1080p. I don't know how much an independent mic would cost, but it's something to consider. I haven't done any riding with my 720p ContourHD, so I can't say just how bad the audio is (I know it's WAY better than the original VholdR). We'll just have to see.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the video above was filmed with a VIO POV.1, which is very nice in that you have a preview screen and all that, but there is a cable to deal with, and they're extremely expensive given that the ContourHD is half the price and twice the resolution.
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beside's someone raving about how much power the bike had, the vid did not show the bike going hard once
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That wasn't the point. We're not trying to show that the Maico 490 is teh ultimate demonz at motocross!!1! but that it's a FUN bike that makes a powerful instant impression on those who experience it.
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Haha, ya, he's not doing motocross and this wasn't a race track, it's just trail riding and he's trying the bike out. I had a helmate cam and he went and he rode the bike by himself I didn't have to hold him and I wasn't filming him riding! He didn't break down at the front, he was turning around, he was a bit scared of the bike at first I think and the bike is a bit tall so prolly why he got off.
To put into some context, he just test rode a 2001 CR500 and the day before a 1998 KX500 and his normal ride is a 1990 YZ250. Needless to say he was most impressed with the Maico and actually didn't like the CR. He is buying the KX though, Maico is out of his price range.
When I ask him about the KTM, he rode my KTM 495 before.
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Yup POV .1 helmate camera, there are pros and cons to all the cameras. I got it a year before the Contour HD came out. The POV .1 takes AA batteries and they last all day riding. The Countour has a special battery and the charge isnt as long. The POV .1 has a cable and the Contour does not. The Contour HD has higher resolution than the POV .1 but the POV .1 has quite good resolution, of course the higher the resolution the more space the files start to take.
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I'm not a big fan of huge resolution, myself. When I use my camera, I'm going to keep it on the lower-res setting. Not only does that double the time you can spend filming, but the Contour records at 60fps at that setting, which means I'll be able to do good slow-mo if I need to. It also means a narrower FOV, which I like because... well I just don't like big fish-eye videos. Really looking forward to getting this bad boy mounted (so to speak.)
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When you say the POV has a cable ,do you mean for a Mic ?
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It's a two-part unit. The main unit has your controls, preview screen, storage, batteries, etc. You carry that in a backpack or fanny pack or, if you're too practical for your own good, a flight vest. That's connected by a cable to the camera itself which is mounted on your helmet. I believe the mic is in the main unit, but I'm not totally sure on that.
http://helmetcameracentral.com/2007/09/26/the-holy-grail-of-helmet-cams-the-new-vio-pov1-integrated-video-system/ (http://helmetcameracentral.com/2007/09/26/the-holy-grail-of-helmet-cams-the-new-vio-pov1-integrated-video-system/)
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they are some big bike's that you guys are talking about!!! i guess its all about power to weight ratio.... maybe a diet would be a good upgrade for u guys ? :P
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These things look big, but they're really no taller than a modern bike, and not particularly heavier. A big-bore can get a little beefy, sometimes in the 240 range, but really not all that big. New bikes just tend to look small, and I suspect it's largely because of the rear fender. I once saw a picture of a 490 Maico which had one of those hangnail-style modern rear fenders, and the thing looked like it was 60lbs lighter, even though it obviously was not. It's interesting, and I think it explains the weird fenders y'all use nowadays. Interestingly, the new fenders are almost the same shape as the old fiberglass ones that Maico used until 1975 (although straight instead of curved), which the magazines HATED like the plague. Now you can't even think of selling a bike without one. It's weird.
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Haha, judging by the title I was expecting some dude pinned on a Maico, with the rear end swapping over some natural sand whoops killing it. And then I play the vid and I get a slap to the face with some spode looking like it's his first time on a bike.
I was honestly hoping for the best, like you old guys were right all along... but no
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The mic is mounted on the cable itself for the POV.
Ya, he's not doing supercross.
Actually, the title of this website is motocross, perhaps I should create a website messageboard for trail riders? TwoStrokeTrailRiders.COM? I see something agitation setting in when people discuss bikes in the context of trail riding instead of motocross.
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Cheers Opfermanmotors.
I didnt want to splash out any cash until i find one that works.
I thought of fords idea about rapping foam around the end of the Contour camera to shield the mic.
Would like someone else to prove it works first.
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Well, I'll certainly be testing it for you. I've heard whisperings of a fairly simple mod that can be done by opening up the camera and putting some foam around the actual internal mic, but that does unfortunately void the warranty.
Anyway, I'll just have to remember to bring my camera next time I go to a vintage race and see if I can catch someone tearing things up on a Maico. It seems like a lot of the Maico riders aren't very good, like they want to get their dream bike from back in the day and challenge the world out of the gate. Doesn't work out too well. Occasionally, though, you'll see someone on a 490 just miles ahead of the next guy.
Now, I just went to the website to see if I could hunt down some shots of a particular really fast 490 guy (no luck) but I did find this shot. It's not a Maico, but it's just too cool not to share.
(http://www.siegecraftnw.com/G8-Kevinattack.jpg)
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Ya, that's what I would suggest wrapping it in something. The cable is close to the unit so I have it in my jacket usually, but for the most part found it doesn' matte rtoo much, the sound quality is usually good and don't hear any wind on it. The MIC has a volume level, it seems that "5" works the best since it's not too muted and not too loud that it breaks up. I have a lot of videos of me with the camera, I don't think any of them have any wind and I don't pay any attention to setting up the mic, it's whereeve it goes. The only issue I had was if I set the MIC to 10 once, that produced bad sound because the bike is so loud and heard wind on it.
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That's a cool photo Jetz.
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Definitely a cool picture,vintage air cooled bikes make the best pics :D
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Hi, I'm Jetz and you're my new best friend. :D
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Hey there Jetz, I've seen the DI debate and the great Maico debate going on around here and I have to say technology is a great thing but I'm also a firm believer in keeping it simple and vintage bikes are simply beautiful 8) ... by the way, I have an '89 YZ490W, '84 KDX200, and a '77 AW400 all simple, fun air cooled bikes
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I'm liking the sound of the AW400. My dad has an AW250 from that year and it's one of the two bikes I grew up on (the other being a 390 Husky). Since I was three years old, I'd ride way forward on the seat, holding onto the crossbar as he rode. We did that until I was old enough to get my first 50cc mini. To say that I have fond memories and a lot of respect for the AW's is an understatement. Don't particularly like the ten-watermelon-sized cases, though. That's where the Magnums come in.
Dammit, there I go talking about Maicos again.