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Two Stroke Motocross Forum => General Two Stroke Talk => Topic started by: Watson777 on June 08, 2010, 09:22:48 PM

Title: Any inside info on 2011 YZ's?
Post by: Watson777 on June 08, 2010, 09:22:48 PM
They have been the same for 5 years now and I know yamaha doesn't care much about their 2T bikes anymore but they have to change something this year don't they?!? Even if its just the plastics! Anyone have any solid inside info?
Title: Re: Any inside info on 2011 YZ's?
Post by: SwapperMX on June 08, 2010, 09:54:53 PM
No not yet !!!!!!!
Title: Re: Any inside info on 2011 YZ's?
Post by: 6IX on June 09, 2010, 12:56:58 PM
Found this 2011 YZ250 on Yamaha Motor Canada.

(http://yamaha-motor.ca/products/images/motorcycles/2011_YZ250_DPBSE_1.jpg)
Title: Re: Any inside info on 2011 YZ's?
Post by: Watson777 on June 09, 2010, 03:37:41 PM
Thats a bummer. They have all the 2011 bikes on the canadian site and there are no changes to the 2011 bikes other than B.N.G.! LAME!
Title: Re: Any inside info on 2011 YZ's?
Post by: 2smoker on June 09, 2010, 03:39:02 PM
Thats a bummer. They have all the 2011 bikes on the canadian site and there are no changes to the 2011 bikes other than B.N.G.! LAME!

Just wait out guys...it is only a website ..nothing official yet..
Title: Re: Any inside info on 2011 YZ's?
Post by: socalcajun on June 09, 2010, 04:37:51 PM
Seems to me that before long if we want to buy a new smoker it will be from Europe and not Japan. Right along with the hefty price tag that usually comes with them.
Title: Re: Any inside info on 2011 YZ's?
Post by: TMKIWI on June 09, 2010, 05:50:22 PM
You might pay more for a euro brand but you have to remember that alot of them are fully kitted.
No need to buy all the after market stuff.
I havnt spent 1 dollar on extras on my bike.
Title: Re: Any inside info on 2011 YZ's?
Post by: offroader on June 10, 2010, 07:22:38 AM
ThE 2011 KTM 250SX is looking real good.
Title: Re: Any inside info on 2011 YZ's?
Post by: miedosoracing on June 10, 2010, 08:01:08 AM
2005 YZ's still.  Screw Yamaha. Buy a KTM, Maico, TM or Husky.  It's a penjalum, (spelling?)  It was them before, they went out, and now they are coming back. On a side note. That 450F is Fugly!!!


http://moto.mpora.com/news/2011-motocross-yamaha-range.html (http://moto.mpora.com/news/2011-motocross-yamaha-range.html)
Title: Re: Any inside info on 2011 YZ's?
Post by: 6IX on June 10, 2010, 11:24:34 AM
2005 YZ's still.  Screw Yamaha.

Not really... The engine, suspension internals, and the front end of the plastics were changed in 2006... Minor refinements in 07-09 including weights savings, wave rotors, different seat cover, etc.  The 2010 was the first model year to come with no changes but the graphics. Definately a better bike now than it was in '05.
Title: Re: Any inside info on 2011 YZ's?
Post by: G-MONEY on June 10, 2010, 11:34:26 AM
Funny how Yamaha kinda kicked off this four stroke thing , And they are the only ones who will give us a 2t here in the states from Japan. Sure the Euro bikes come pretty complete but what if its the stuff you don't care for (bar bend, rims ect.)
Title: Re: Any inside info on 2011 YZ's?
Post by: TMKIWI on June 10, 2010, 01:54:46 PM
Bar bends & rims etc are always going to be a personal thing on any bike.
Nothing against Yamaha but if we suport the euro companies it has to be better for the 2 stroke in the long run.
Title: Re: Any inside info on 2011 YZ's?
Post by: G-MONEY on June 10, 2010, 05:02:32 PM
I completly agree, support the companies that make the stuff we like. I'm sure they all watch each others sales on specific models, If they notice 2t sales start to out pace the snore strokes they will want a piece of it.
Title: Re: Any inside info on 2011 YZ's?
Post by: Watson777 on June 10, 2010, 05:26:01 PM
I can't support the Euros because I can't race any of them in the nationals except KTM and I wont buy another KTM because I had nothing but problems with my last one. I thought about buying a 2011 but then changed my mind. I want to ride Kawi's!
Title: Re: Any inside info on 2011 YZ's?
Post by: RideRedMx2 on June 10, 2010, 05:47:08 PM
Came across this earlier

SPY PHOTOS! Are These The 2011 YAMAHA Motocross Bikes? Yes, They Are! See The YZ450F, YZ250F, YZ250, YZ125 & YZ85 Here



http://motocrossactionmag.com/Main/News/SPY-PHOTOS-OF-THE-2011-YAMAHA-YZ450F-YZ250F-YZ250-7026.aspx (http://motocrossactionmag.com/Main/News/SPY-PHOTOS-OF-THE-2011-YAMAHA-YZ450F-YZ250F-YZ250-7026.aspx)
Title: Re: Any inside info on 2011 YZ's?
Post by: TMKIWI on June 10, 2010, 05:58:56 PM
Kick the japanese factories of the AMA board.
Drop the production rule.

Its crazy that the small manufactors can race in the World MX champs but cant in the US. :'(
Watch any race footage from Europe or Australasia and you see TM,Husky,CCM,Sherco etc racing. ;D
If you want to race a certain brand you should be able to. PERIOD.
Title: Re: Any inside info on 2011 YZ's?
Post by: westsiderippa on June 10, 2010, 08:30:00 PM
you say buy a ktm because they make the bike we like? i know you mean this generally speaking because i bought my 09 yz this year and must say its been the greatest bike i have ever owned. i raced it from the beginning of the year until a few weeks ago bone stock. i too would love a major overall haul but hey f-it the bike flat out rips as is. i will buy another yz in a heart beat!!!
Title: Re: Any inside info on 2011 YZ's?
Post by: TMKIWI on June 10, 2010, 09:48:42 PM
As i said in a prevous post, Nothing against Yamaha.
I wish they would do something other then grafics to the bike.
It would be good to see some serious updates to what is a good bike.

A YZ is always near the top of my shoping list.
Would love to build a YZ285 enduro bike with yellow/black colour scheme.
Title: Re: Any inside info on 2011 YZ's?
Post by: DangisMX on June 13, 2010, 02:34:18 AM
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I wont buy another KTM because I had nothing but problems with my last one

Same here. Sad :(. They're the only really good company that is putting some serious effort into two strokes right now. I just hope they get a bit more reliable with time.
Title: Re: Any inside info on 2011 YZ's?
Post by: ford832 on June 13, 2010, 04:12:43 AM
I can't support the Euros because I can't race any of them in the nationals except KTM and I wont buy another KTM because I had nothing but problems with my last one. I thought about buying a 2011 but then changed my mind. I want to ride Kawi's!

Both of my KTM's were absolutely,positively bulletproof.They're the most popular bike by far for off road here and few have any issues.Nothing against Kawis but from what I've seen,I always considered them the bottom feeders of off road bikes-generally speaking.
Title: Re: Any inside info on 2011 YZ's?
Post by: DangisMX on June 13, 2010, 07:35:06 AM
Maybe enduro KTM models are better, and they are very popular indeed. SX however, at least for me, was a great disappointment. It's a good machine if you have the money to keep it running though.
Title: Re: Any inside info on 2011 YZ's?
Post by: ford832 on June 13, 2010, 02:31:59 PM
I had a 2000 125EXC and a 2002 125SX.Mind you,a few years ago,before the 4t invasion in MX,I heard the guys that ran the Canadian Nats for KTM had a pretty big parts budget-by necessity.Maybe I just wasn't capable of riding mine hard enough to do damage. :-X
Title: Re: Any inside info on 2011 YZ's?
Post by: maicoman009 on June 15, 2010, 07:57:35 PM
The only reliability issues that I have noticed on my 2008 KTM-300xc as well as one of my freinds 09 KTM-450sx-f is that the seats on the bikes wear out relatively quick.Other than that every KTM that I've seen,ie,whether out riding the local trails or at the local MX tracks,when speaking to the owners of those KTM's they've always praised the reliability of their bikes!On another note everything that I've read in all of the major dirt bike mags about the Kawasaki's,especially their 4-strokes is always bad reliability issues with their bikes!And just ask anyone who owns or has owned a KX or KX-F about how well the seats hold up?LOL ;D ,Not to mention the issues Kawasakis have had with their 4-stroke engines!I will say,however that the 2-stroke KX engines are very,very FAST & POWERFUL though. :P
Title: Re: Any inside info on 2011 YZ's?
Post by: TMKIWI on June 16, 2010, 09:46:47 PM
Back to the original question.
I spoke to my mate yesterday who is the local Yamaha/Kawasaki dealer and he said new graphics thats it.
As an aside he said he is having trouble selling anything in this climate. 2 or 4 stroke.
He will sell any of the MX bikes in stock for cost just to get rid of them.

The local Honda dealer is selling CRF's at cost to get them out the door.

It's a pretty sad market out there. :'(