Two Stroke Motocross

Two Stroke Motocross Forum => General Two Stroke Talk => Topic started by: ridered125 on August 03, 2013, 03:32:55 AM

Title: Jerry Robin at Lorettas
Post by: ridered125 on August 03, 2013, 03:32:55 AM
Jerry Robin - the 16-year-old on a 1985 CR 250 - was on NBC today when they aired their coverage of the racing at Loretta Lynn's. They even did a segment on him before the race and told the story behind him and his bike.

Riding 250B he got a 9th, 18th and a 15th and he was riding an antique out there. Pretty amazing.
Title: Jerry Robin at Lorettas
Post by: citabjockey on August 03, 2013, 04:01:22 AM
9th, 18th and 15th gave him a 11th overall -- on a bomber bike.

So, either bikes have not made such great strides in the past couple of decades or...
He is the man when it comes to MX.

I am thinking its a little of both.


Jerry Robin - the 16-year-old on a 1985 CR 250 - was on NBC today when they aired their coverage of the racing at Loretta Lynn's. They even did a segment on him before the race and told the story behind him and his bike.

Riding 250B he got a 9th, 18th and a 15th and he was riding an antique out there. Pretty amazing.
Title: Jerry Robin at Lorettas
Post by: shanes on August 03, 2013, 04:50:33 AM
he has a great style looks really good on the bike , be good to see what he could do with a bit of support
Title: Jerry Robin at Lorettas
Post by: TMKIWI on August 03, 2013, 10:12:52 AM
He won the 250 2 stroke class as well on the 07 CR.
Kid looked good.
Title: Jerry Robin at Lorettas
Post by: Coop on August 03, 2013, 01:55:11 PM
I read his bike blew up in practice. Was he riding the 86 or a different bike?
Title: Jerry Robin at Lorettas
Post by: citabjockey on August 03, 2013, 03:58:37 PM
They found a donor bike and stole the engine out of it so he ran 250B with that. He rode the '07 loaner bike in the two stroke class.


I read his bike blew up in practice. Was he riding the 86 or a different bike?
Title: Jerry Robin at Lorettas
Post by: lauterbacher on August 03, 2013, 05:28:47 PM
Is there anymore of a write up on it anywhere, as far as in the 250 B class was he the only two stroke etc.
Title: Jerry Robin at Lorettas
Post by: Lolerbabop on August 03, 2013, 08:58:21 PM
They found a donor bike and stole the engine out of it so he ran 250B with that. He rode the '07 loaner bike in the two stroke class.
So he raced a pretty ****ty bike? Good jpb i'd say.
Title: Jerry Robin at Lorettas
Post by: Formerly knownas Premixed on August 04, 2013, 06:26:14 PM
Is there anymore of a write up on it anywhere, as far as in the 250 B class was he the only two stroke etc.

11th overall in 250B on the 85 CR.  Salvaged 3 bikes worth of parts to get it on the track.  Not bad, that's potentially 29 250Fs behind him.

A little birdie told me James Stewart himself tried to recruit him to Team Seven, and offered him brand new Suzukis.  He turned it down, however, I really hope he takes the offer after Lorettas.  You can't race an 85 CR at Anaheim 1.

They really jumped through their asses to get that 85 out on the track, and really only did it for the fans. 
Title: Jerry Robin at Lorettas
Post by: KDXGarage on August 04, 2013, 07:47:52 PM
lauterbacher, he was not the only 250 2-stroke.  I saw one on TV.
Title: Jerry Robin at Lorettas
Post by: _X_ on August 04, 2013, 09:16:57 PM
i wonder if hell get a factory ride in europes 300 class next year?
Title: Jerry Robin at Lorettas
Post by: VintageBlueSmoke on August 05, 2013, 12:48:34 PM
:Cough: TSM :COUGH-COUGH:

 ;D
Title: Jerry Robin at Lorettas
Post by: Formerly knownas Premixed on August 05, 2013, 05:10:48 PM
someone needs to put him on a 125 for 2-3 arenacross races to satisfy his "road to supercross", then put him on a 125 for daytona.

not saying he would set the world on fire, but the publicity would be absurd.
Title: Jerry Robin at Lorettas
Post by: brazilian2stroker on August 05, 2013, 05:38:01 PM
I canīt stop imagining what he could be done on a modern 2 stroke like the TSMīs bike  ;)
Title: Jerry Robin at Lorettas
Post by: citabjockey on August 05, 2013, 10:58:51 PM
2007 is lots newer than '85. And he dominated the two stroke class on that bike.

I canīt stop imagining what he could be done on a modern 2 stroke like the TSMīs bike  ;)
Title: Jerry Robin at Lorettas
Post by: brazilian2stroker on August 07, 2013, 01:33:40 PM
2007 is lots newer than '85. And he dominated the two stroke class on that bike.

I canīt stop imagining what he could be done on a modern 2 stroke like the TSMīs bike  ;)

Yes, but I would like to know his performance against the 4t enemies  >:-D
Title: Jerry Robin at Lorettas
Post by: citabjockey on August 07, 2013, 02:49:58 PM
I suppose you can compare laptimes to get a sense of that. Of course that quagmire track chnaged from minute to minute so its not quite real...

So do you folks think if Jerry was on a practice track and kept going back and forth between the '07 and '85 bikes that his lap times would be hugely different? What specifically does the '07 do so much better than his trusty '85?

2007 is lots newer than '85. And he dominated the two stroke class on that bike.

I canīt stop imagining what he could be done on a modern 2 stroke like the TSMīs bike  ;)

Yes, but I would like to know his performance against the 4t enemies  >:-D
Title: Jerry Robin at Lorettas
Post by: VintageBlueSmoke on August 07, 2013, 03:26:28 PM
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What specifically does the '07 do so much better than his trusty '85?

I can't say for him, but I regularly go back and forth and on our local track, I am about 4 seconds a lap faster on modern machinery ('03 GAS-GAS 300 or '08 KTM 144) compared to some of my older bikes ('80 Can-Am 400 or '75 Husky 175). He is on an '85 so has front disk brakes and water cooling. My guess would put it about 2 seconds slower (for me on my track) than modern.
Title: Jerry Robin at Lorettas
Post by: ktm150rippa on August 07, 2013, 04:43:23 PM
http://vurbmoto.com/blogs/lorettas-journals-volume-1-jerry-robin/14814/
Title: Jerry Robin at Lorettas
Post by: eprovenzano on August 07, 2013, 05:30:18 PM
Nice
Title: Jerry Robin at Lorettas
Post by: mj4trax on August 07, 2013, 07:36:54 PM
http://vurbmoto.com/blogs/lorettas-journals-volume-1-jerry-robin/14814/

Very cool...   
Title: Jerry Robin at Lorettas
Post by: Stusmoke on August 08, 2013, 06:44:07 AM
I wonder if he can bottle his skill and sell it... Hes clearly overflowing with it.
Title: Jerry Robin at Lorettas
Post by: Shawn36 on August 08, 2013, 12:49:38 PM
I suppose you can compare laptimes to get a sense of that. Of course that quagmire track chnaged from minute to minute so its not quite real...

So do you folks think if Jerry was on a practice track and kept going back and forth between the '07 and '85 bikes that his lap times would be hugely different? What specifically does the '07 do so much better than his trusty '85?

At the training facility he rode at before Loretta's (SOB MX) they did mock races everyday.  On the '85 he was a 5 thru 10th place guy, on the '07 he was 1st thru 3rd regularly. 
Title: Jerry Robin at Lorettas
Post by: citabjockey on August 08, 2013, 03:26:57 PM
And this is because of the quality of the suspension? Or is there a handling difference as well?  More stable on the '07? Less swapping? Better in the air? The '07 motor is easier to manage? More power? That seems like a big difference for bikes that both have 12" of travel, water cooling, and disk brakes and probably weigh within 5 lbs of each other. I guess 20+ years of development really have moved things forward!


I suppose you can compare laptimes to get a sense of that. Of course that quagmire track chnaged from minute to minute so its not quite real...

So do you folks think if Jerry was on a practice track and kept going back and forth between the '07 and '85 bikes that his lap times would be hugely different? What specifically does the '07 do so much better than his trusty '85?

At the training facility he rode at before Loretta's (SOB MX) they did mock races everyday.  On the '85 he was a 5 thru 10th place guy, on the '07 he was 1st thru 3rd regularly.
Title: Jerry Robin at Lorettas
Post by: Stusmoke on August 10, 2013, 05:55:24 AM
Honda must hate this kid so much. Not only is he ****ting all over their fagvanced four strokes on a bike over 20 years older, but hes doing it on THEIR bike which just 13 years earlier they swore they weren't going to produce...

Poetic justice.
Title: Jerry Robin at Lorettas
Post by: Shawn36 on August 10, 2013, 01:42:36 PM
And this is because of the quality of the suspension? Or is there a handling difference as well?  More stable on the '07? Less swapping? Better in the air? The '07 motor is easier to manage? More power? That seems like a big difference for bikes that both have 12" of travel, water cooling, and disk brakes and probably weigh within 5 lbs of each other. I guess 20+ years of development really have moved things forward!


I suppose you can compare laptimes to get a sense of that. Of course that quagmire track chnaged from minute to minute so its not quite real...

So do you folks think if Jerry was on a practice track and kept going back and forth between the '07 and '85 bikes that his lap times would be hugely different? What specifically does the '07 do so much better than his trusty '85?

At the training facility he rode at before Loretta's (SOB MX) they did mock races everyday.  On the '85 he was a 5 thru 10th place guy, on the '07 he was 1st thru 3rd regularly.

Obviously those are questions for either Jerry or the people at the training facility helping him.  The only real issue between the two bikes they mentioned were starts.  He would get killed on the 85 and have to make passes, on the 07 he would start up front.  That was mirrored at Loretta's itself where he pulled a monster holeshot in the 2-stroke B/C but never anything in the top 15 in 250B. 
Title: Jerry Robin at Lorettas
Post by: msmola2002 on August 10, 2013, 02:28:07 PM
There's a big enough difference between the twin chambered showa stufff on and 07 and something like the open chamber stuff on my 02 kx, let alone going back to the right way up forks. Big difference was mid stroke harshness for the usds let alone goung back another 15 years from that technology.
Title: Jerry Robin at Lorettas
Post by: luthier269 on August 10, 2013, 03:56:39 PM
Also the skill level of the 250B rider compared to the Twostroke b/c riders were different.