Two Stroke Motocross
Two Stroke Motocross Forum => Photos & Videos => Topic started by: 2smoker on April 24, 2010, 02:50:17 PM
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Team UEM Enduro Promotion video
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i am hoping that Husky comes out with an updated 250/300 cc engine platform to compete with KTM. i really want a modern CR250 motocrosser for my next bike.
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I'm looking forward to Husky really pulling themselves back up into something like limelight under BMW management.
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I've heard it said that the modern WR300 is the fastest production 300 you can get, pretty keen to try one.
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Aussie dirtbike magazine did a shootout in 09 on the TM,Husky,Gas Gas and KTM 300s.
In a drag race both the Husky & TM had the best engines.
I cant find the link but here is the last paragraph.
I copied the file last year.
Another aspect of this test was how much
fun us testers had. Apart from watching Geoff
scream into orbit and chasing Hollis with a
snake (he has a phobia, it turns out), it was
genuinely good to get back to the bush on
two-bangers after lots of four-stroke testing of
late. They are lighter than 450 four-strokes by
around 7-10kg, produce different power, but
can lug, chug or scream depending on what you
feel like doing. And don??t even start me on the
lower maintenance etc. Thinking of another bike
for 2009? Then put these on your shopping list
?? they are one tough class of bike.
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Aussie dirtbike magazine did a shootout in 09 on the TM,Husky,Gas Gas and KTM 300s.
In a drag race both the Husky & TM had the best engines.
I cant find the link but here is the last paragraph.
I copied the file last year.
Another aspect of this test was how much
fun us testers had. Apart from watching Geoff
scream into orbit and chasing Hollis with a
snake (he has a phobia, it turns out), it was
genuinely good to get back to the bush on
two-bangers after lots of four-stroke testing of
late. They are lighter than 450 four-strokes by
around 7-10kg, produce different power, but
can lug, chug or scream depending on what you
feel like doing. And don??t even start me on the
lower maintenance etc. Thinking of another bike
for 2009? Then put these on your shopping list
?? they are one tough class of bike.
well, you and i know how good the TM motor is ay TMKIWI.
I'm pretty keen for a go on one of those husky 300's, i've heard they're faster
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Would never say no to a ride on any of the new 300s.
At least the Husky has a style all of its own.
Would love to see one of the euro companies bring out a 320-380 bike.
I know Maico is but no one has riden one yet.
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I'm a proud owner of a 2008 KTM-300xc and I read a recent test in one of the dirtbike magazines and it clearly stated that in testing the KTM,GasGas and Husky 300 that the Husqvarna-300wr is by far the fastest of the three bikes and it could easily run down any stock 450 MX 4-stroke!
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Goes to show, the only replacement for displacement is to lop off a couple of unnecessary strokes.
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Hi Maicoman009. Nice bike you have. I have pasted below the 4 engine reports from the test. Still can't find the link.
GRUNT FACTOR
If you??re looking for a top-end monster, turn the page. If you are after
a manageable, trailrider-friendly engine, then the Gasser is the best
of this group for that. While the others in the group have a stronger
bottom-end, you can really lug the Gas Gas engine along up slippery
hills and over slick surfaces, before venturing into a strong, useable
and tractable mid-range that really defines this engine.
It is the only six-speeder of the bunch, so it can be short-shifted to
keep its mid-range whirring along, and this is the best mode for fast
operation though the bush. In the numerous roll-ons we did, the Gas
Gas couldn??t keep up with the others once they started bouncing off
the rev ceiling, unless the Gas Gas pilot started snatching gears before
the engine ran out of puff. With one extra cog to play with, this meant
the Gasser could stay with the others, albeit with more gear changes.
But bush-work needs a good mid-range, and the Gas Gas delivers there.
It was harder to shift without clutch than the others, but shifting
with a flick of the clutch is easy in full noise mode, and everywhere
else it??s good.
POWER FACTORY
The Husky, simply put, has as much power as most people need,
anywhere, leaving the rider to decide if they want to pull their arms
out revving it everywhere, trundle through the mid-range or just lug it
around a gear higher, letting its grunt-a-saurus engine do all the work.
One minute, Hollis was labouring it at walking pace over a huge
rock, the next Braico was making it scream like a tortured mouse.
Meanwhile, I was happy grunting it through the bush with bugger
all clutch and hoping it would open up a bit just so I could mash
the throttle against the stop.
It is neck-and-neck with the TM in roll-ons (you know a top-end
hit when a 300cc two-stroke gets on the pipe!), with just a little more
tractability down low. It is let down by a too-heavy clutch and the fact
it is the only bike of the four without a switchable ignition map. The
thought of this bike with a hydraulic clutch and ??traction? ignition
map makes our minds boggle?
The kickstarter is also the worst of the group ?? it??s too short, too far
forward and just plain hard to use. The bike starts fine, it??s just harder
than it should be, and tall blokes will hate kicking it.
Even including the bad points, though, the Husky is right up there
in this group, and nothing like what I rode in Italy.
RATTLE & ROLL
That magic button starts an engine that has slightly less torque than
the Husky motor, but is more tractable. The KTM is a good engine,
but its real highlight in this company is how it gets that power to the
ground, and its versatility.
In the roll-ons, it hung with the TM and Husky until the furthest
reaches of top-end were found and they started to gap it a little ?? with
the standard power valve spring in it. When we tried different springs
later, we found they made a significant difference and, combined with
the ignition map switch (two maps) you get six engine tunes in one and
all standard. Plus electric start to boot. That??s good value.
In the bush, on the trail and even on the motocross track, you can
get the KTM close to how you want it, all by changing the power valve
spring (two 6mm bolts and two minutes do the trick) and plugging or
unplugging the ignition map cable. Why there isn??t a switch as
standard I don??t know, but that??s the only downer to a versatile engine.
The TM was the pleasant surprise of the test ?? as we knew
it looked cool, but were blown away by how much easier
it is to ride this year. It really scratched our itch?
BLUE POWER
TMs have always had bulk horsepower, but the way that
grunt was served up hasn??t always been as refined or user-friendly as
the others. For 2009, TM has made the engine much more useable,
yet somehow managed to retain the edginess that makes these bikes
so addictive to ride. I don??t mind admitting the previous TM EN300
scared me a little, but the fear factor has gone from this bike.
The bottom-end doesn??t have the same response as the KTM or
Husky, and the transition to the mid-range is more abrupt, but not in
a way that damages the fun factor ?? in fact, it really makes it.
It??s a racy engine, the raciest of the mob tested here, but now most
riders would be comfortable on it. All the testers were unanimous in
that the bike made us feel like sticking on some numbers and rolling
up to a start line, yet on the trailride it didn??t leave us digging holes up
hills or struggling over technical sections.
It??d be a great motocross bike, but can still trailride, and is a weapon
through the bush. The new frame has reduced suspension to the point
where none of us noticed vibrations when riding (there??s a slight tingle
in the feet when idling).
It??s a great engine now, giving the Husky curry all the way into the
top-end during the roll-ons and sharing honours there ?? we really
couldn??t split them.
All good bikes with something for everyone.
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Husky have stopped putting a six-speed on everything? Dammit, they've systematically lost every single one of their trademarks. Left-side-kick, gone. Six-speed on all bikes, gone. Tank mirror, gone. Great bikes, I'm sure, but I don't know if the new Husqvarnas are really Huskies anymore. It takes more than the Husqvarna name to be a Husky. Maybe I'm just being a twat again, I don't know. It's interesting to note that Husqvarna still have the worst kickstarter in the business, which seems to be a longstanding tradition that they've held onto.
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I'll just ask you this Jetz.
Would you use the same logic on the new Maico ?
Companies change hands and most engineers live in the present not the past!!
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Maico still have their legendary smooth power, and the left-side kick. They lost the chain-driven primary drive and backwards clutch. I wish they hadn't. If Maico had become as traditional and "normal" as Husky had, I'd absolutely bash them for it. Personally, I like all of the things that Husky got rid of, but I think the reason they got rid of them is because everyone else did. You can't sell a bike with left-side kick to the masses anymore, all of today's riders would try to kick it with their left foot. The six-speed they got rid of, I guess was for weight, but I can say it's my favorite feature on Huskies. I love Maicos, but they only have five gears and that gets extremely annoying for the kind of riding we do.
I don't like the things I do JUST because they're tradition. For example, the classic rear fender Husqvarna used for the last time on their 1979 bike no longer fit the bike, and I'm glad they got rid of it. The 1980 fender was better for that bike, but would've been worse in 1978. Maico's classic coffin tank was legendary, but it was costly to manufacture (hand-welded!), didn't hold as much gas as their newer one, and wasn't as comfortable for aggressive riding. I'm glad they changed it, even though it was tradition. However, when a company makes changes just for the sake of being more like everyone else, such as Maico's exactly-like-everyone-else's clutch, or right-side kick on a Husqvarna, I'm not going to assume that they did so for performance, rather than marketing. The "engineers live in the present not the past" argument has been used many a time by the four-stroke crowd, may I remind you.
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was that a 300 in the vid, looked like it hauled, i remember a while ago there was a vid of a maico 700 that the guy didn't even twist the throttle, either that or it was just slow
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The guy with the Maico 700 was taking it easy because it was brand-spanking-new and he was breaking it in. Besides, with really big-bore bikes, you don't need to go for it. Chances are, you'll be afraid to do so unless you're fairly used to large-ish two-strokes. Everybody thinks my dad's '86 M-Star 500 doesn't rev out and "isn't that fast" because they've never heard the bike really going for it on the pipe. That's because there's no acceleration that their bike will do to make the M-Star sweat. It can stay cool and stay with anyone, right through fifth gear (after which point, a Husky will hit sixth and disappear).
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That vid was pretty boring. They were pretty much just riding around a grassy field.