Two Stroke Motocross
Two Stroke Motocross Forum => General Two Stroke Talk => Topic started by: LGA67 on February 19, 2013, 08:19:08 PM
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Wondering how many 45+ people still racing?
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I started racing at 46, after a 30 year break.
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i'm getting there, three more years.
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I,m 46 if everything works out, I,ll be racing this summer. On a 04 cr125 stroker crank mod motor. The largest 45 plus class is problably in the racer X vet series in the midwest- www.mxvets.com It,s a 4 round series, Red Bud is one of the tracks, Millville was in the series. Not all tracks have 45+, so I,m ok with 40+ and 30 b for a 2nd class. If a track has a 125 class , I,ll do that and drop 30b. The 125 class has some fast 125 jr,s I should be able to get a good start , I hope I have my 2 lap sprint speed yet, or it,s 1.5 laps and then have a bunch of hyper 15 yr olds trying to stuff ya. haha Either way the 125 class is for fun, the start will be sling shot engaged , once that 2mm stroker starts pulling it will be a blur of bright RED sling shotting past em . haahahahahahahahahaha
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46 still going .i do LL mx every yr
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there are probably 10 45+ guys at my local track who race every time.
my dads 50 and he's still going strong
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48 and racing occaisionally
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Assuming I don't die or get seriously injured in the next few years I had freaking better be still racing. Really not much point in living if I'm not
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NZ VMX is mostly over 40's ish as you would imagine but it is interesting to note that there are a number of younger riders having a go and it would appear enjoying it. I'm 51 and still "participating".
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18 months still to go for me.
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Sporadicaly.
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48 in month.Slower and stiffer every year.Bah.
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I'm 50, but I turn 15 when I drop the hammer at the start... although I will feel as though I'm 70 for a day or two after...
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At 46, ride just about every week March through mid Nov. Racing less, but mainly because there are no enduros in this area. Did one MX race last year.
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If your a vet rider and have a 125, get some riders together and talk with your local track. About a 35+ 125 class in Wisconsin we had 38 racers on the gate with a 2 week notice 5or 6 yrs ago. The winner got a PBR= past blue ribbon beer . If someone really wants to race on there 97 Rm and there 33 yrs old, there on the gate. A couple other tracks have the 125 35+ the day after the race everyone ask, who won the 125 class. Alot of interest and alot of fun.
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there in a couple of years the strongest class in a lotof events now is the vets 40+ good racing ,hard racing but you dont have to worry about that goon taking you ouy,everyone has work on monday morning
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gee alot of old farts here
i hope i can get back into racing BEFORE then!
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gee alot of old farts here
i hope i can get back into racing BEFORE then!
Cos you all grew up on two strokes and didn't swallow the BS.
If your a vet rider and have a 125, get some riders together and talk with your local track. About a 35+ 125 class in Wisconsin we had 38 racers on the gate with a 2 week notice 5or 6 yrs ago. The winner got a PBR= past blue ribbon beer . If someone really wants to race on there 97 Rm and there 33 yrs old, there on the gate. A couple other tracks have the 125 35+ the day after the race everyone ask, who won the 125 class. Alot of interest and alot of fun.
Thats the beauty of two stroke motocross. Not the site, I mean the actually motocross part of it. Everyone just shows up to ring it out, have a good day and talk soem shit.
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i guess i'm a youngster at 41. took a couple years off from moto after mangling myself pretty good in 2010. been trail riding mostly now. gonna do some moto in a couple weeks on our anual ride trip to north carolina, we'll see how that goes.
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where I race the seniors and supers make up largest class every month
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47. Still racing.
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48 and still race 10-12 woods races each year. it keeps you young.. locally the the racers over 40 (40,50, 60+) outnumber the rest of the field if you combined them. the 60+ class has about 8 regulars in it.
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And those older farts are usually pretty damn fast.
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ok, my question is, How many still doing the big jumps? Or is this regarding more towards woods riding. I love MX but even though I'm 43, my sense of fear has grown alot. I had a real bad crash a few years back and broke both my hips and I was in very good shape, physically, due to still being in the Army.
Unfortunately, I had a 19 yr break without even touching a bike and lost alot of talent on the jumps. But I did race a HS last summer and after the first lap and felt like death warmed over, I got a second wind and could just flat out rip as it all started to come back to me.
There is a member on here, Bigair40, Rodney, who can flat out fly for his age. 47 or 48 this year and can still hang with Ryan & Pooh Sipes, lap for lap. Well, at least for 5 laps anyway. AND he Podiums every year at LL.
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I'm 49. I got my 1st motorcycle at 40, and it was a street bike. At 41 I got a dirt bike and I rode trails for a couple of years. Around 43 I rode my 1st track and fell over all the way around it, but I got the bug.
I'm as fast now as I've ever been, which isn't saying much. I race mx and gp's mainly but have done desert and enduros too. I won my last couple district 37 gp's in the sen/int class. It's all about having fun...and I'm somewhat of a jumper.
btw, I ride with a 70 year old gentleman who races the magnum class with D-37. He still holds a good pace and jumps almost everything....
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mx sapper and the best way to take the jolt or harhness out of landings is to down side each jump, i notice here in nesc the tracks give you safe options as far as the big jumps go. there is always the technical side after the track degrades but that plays into the hand of the racer who finds lines quickly you know. you also have to confidence in your ability of-course. i tend to make alot of passes by taking a smoother line or jumping something someone isnt. or sometimes just sackuing up and charging through the rough. i think they call it racers edge, the mental side of racing. with a lay off you must rebuild the foundation, slow and steady. this is where "practice" comes into play, not riding around but spicific practice of each technique. it takes time and youre always learning. so a yeah i jump the jumps, at least the ones im comfortable with.
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44, race MX approx every 2nd weekend, still clear every obsticle on our local track. Biggest jump claim to fame as a vets rider, would be the old extention at Coolum....twice. Swapper knows it.
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Racer x, don't get me wrong, I grew up riding from age 3 until the day I left home for the Army. I was an A rider for 2 years as well. Nowadays, I just like to ride and keep my wheels on the ground. But I get alot of enjoyment watching and training my kids and others.
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yeah no worries, just thought you were looking for some positive encouragement to jump that quad. ha!
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Ive found now im a lot more wise on the track not just cut thrust and hold on ,i seem to be getting better results as well,as to jumps i do look at the ouch factor if i get it wrong ,tabletops will do all day ,doubles happy on big triples well im goin to double single but all this aside the biggest thing ,GET OUT THERE HAVE FUN on ya smoker of course im not gonna think any less of ya if your not hukin big gaps or triples
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Mx is an endurance sport, I think we all know that. The drop off from oxygen to muscle from a 25 yr old to a 45 yr old isn,t that much. There,s 40+ sprinters that run in the 10,s yet, I,m one of them. But 9 yrs on a drill rig and trucking really beats your body up. Alot of injuries and surgerys , so it,s rare that the body isn,t in pain or screwed up. I feel alot better when it,s hot and hummid. I like to sprint for 2 laps, then set a pace and settle in, try to save energy in case a 450 catches you. Then hope I have the energy to sprint again, or it,s get passed on a straight away, then I pass him in a corner, repeat x10.
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The problem with age is recovery time - recovery from exertion, injury, etc. Older riders can still compete equally. You don't forget how to jump, turn, etc. You do however begin to rejuvinate slower over 40. My doc told me recently that just about all active men over 40 eventually have rotator cuff injuries. Most have lower back problems. Compound that with the living that you did in your youth (smoking, drinking, poor diet) which you really don't pay for until you are middle aged as well as any and all those injuries you suffered. An old body starts complaining.
Now many guys that continue to ride actually get faster and/or more consistant as over 40 riders. The above still applies but they've learned to roll that dangerous jump rather than risk it and just pass you whipper-snappers in the corners!
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Now many guys that continue to ride actually get faster and/or more consistent as over 40 riders. The above still applies but they've learned to roll that dangerous jump rather than risk it and just pass you whipper-snappers in the corners!
This is soooo true. There are many "seasoned" riders who you rarely see doing an unexpected superman, or any other quick get off. They've been there, done that and learned when to dial it back, and when (because of their experience) know when and where to dial it up, drop the hammer and leave you in their dust. Just because someone has a little less hair, or its turned a little gray, and maybe a (cough, cough) a few extra pounds around the middle, don't discount them. It's these gentleman that can make you look silly in a hurry.
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Yeah there,s injurys that effect your riding for sure. My last spell under the knife was left elbow tommy johns surgery, outside of elbow insision they relieve the tendons and drill holes in the bone. Next is a 2in incision over the funny bone, where they work on the nerve. The surgeon said he never saw the nerve so tight, my hand- fingers was going crazy during surgery. Over 1 year later from my wrist to half my fingers are still numb, yeah not good. The outside of your hand is what grips the bars. The aztalan track in Lake Mills has a very competive 40 and 45 classes, when servere weather isn,t threatening. They have a full gate for 40+, riders that finish top 5 at LL don,t win here. If your racing for a top finish, you,ll fight for it. For what ever reason, riders short out at this track, in the 55 + class a rider was run over twice in the 1st corner, there,s paremedics working on him. Then a 450 rider that was stuck in the gate , about 2 minutes later runs him over going wideopen. Nobody could believe it, the medics jumped out of the way. It was the dumbest thing you,d ever seen, the rider,s been in the hospital since 9-9-2012.
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I'm 48 and still racing MX. I quit racing CC back in 1985 because it was to dangerous. I like nice safe MX where the ambulance is always less than 100 yards away! Other than the years I have had to take off to recover from some injuries I have been racing nonstop since 1978.
Here in California there is a lot of racing for older riders. We have the Old Timers International MX series and the Over The Hill Gang clubs series as well. I am a member of both groups. I ride +45 novice in the Gang and +40 novice in the OTMX.
Here is a link to the International OTMX website. There are clubs from Canada to Arizona.
http://russrr.home.comcast.net/~russrr/
Here is a link to the SoCal chapter of the Gang. There are five chapters of the gang, four in Ca and one in Reno,NV.
http://www.overthehillgang.org/
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Your not wrong about recovery taking longer.
I shattered my wrist 2 years ago.
Thought it was a broken scaphoid but was actually torn muscle off the bone.
A few pins and months in a cast I am only now getting full use again.
Still can only bend my wrist 20 deg and it will never move any more.
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Older riders have more experience and ,as such, are more comfortable riding in the "Zone" (that last 10% of speed before you crash). If you look at long distance and extreme events you'll find that a lot of the high placing riders are what we would consider "mature" riders.
It has also been said that most competitors have about 10 years of top level racing in them. Guys like Adolph Weil and John Dowd started late but were winners. The reverse is true with "hockey parents" burning their kids out in the pee wee mx. There was a German rally car driver who didn't even start competing untill he was in his 40's yet still won world championships.
It has been my own experience that it isn't nec. old age that gets you but, rather, injuries.
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I'm 48 and still racing MX. I quit racing CC back in 1985 because it was to dangerous. I like nice safe MX where the ambulance is always less than 100 yards away! Other than the years I have had to take off to recover from some injuries I have been racing nonstop since 1978.
Here in California there is a lot of racing for older riders. We have the Old Timers International MX series and the Over The Hill Gang clubs series as well. I am a member of both groups. I ride +45 novice in the Gang and +40 novice in the OTMX.
Here is a link to the International OTMX website. There are clubs from Canada to Arizona.
http://russrr.home.comcast.net/~russrr/
Here is a link to the SoCal chapter of the Gang. There are five chapters of the gang, four in Ca and one in Reno,NV.
http://www.overthehillgang.org/
I hear of your vet series, the turn out looks great.
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Older riders have more experience and ,as such, are more comfortable riding in the "Zone"
The smart ones, anyway
I've always ridden way over my head, and been a crasher because of it. I finally smartened up last season and started riding within my ability for a change. It paid off.
We had our banquet a few weeks ago.
As far as recovery, I went down in the woods 4 years ago. I strained something in my arm picking the bike up. X rays and ultrasound didn't find anything, but it still took 2 years for the pain to go away.
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Your not wrong about recovery taking longer.
I shattered my wrist 2 years ago.
Thought it was a broken scaphoid but was actually torn muscle off the bone.
A few pins and months in a cast I am only now getting full use again.
Still can only bend my wrist 20 deg and it will never move any more.
Cripes,that sucks.It wasn't your "girlfriend hand" was it?
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you know where trophys belong? thats right, on the dashboard!
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you know where trophys belong? thats right, on the dashboard!
....or on a big fat gold chain around your neck !!
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I'm only doing 30+ stuff but liking it a lot. less suicidal 15 year olds who have mummy and daddy pay their medical expenses when they wad up/take someone out.
It's good riding with older guys wh have to go to work on monday :p
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I'd show you all my trophy's, but I can't remember where I put them?
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Yeah there,s injurys that effect your riding for sure. My last spell under the knife was left elbow tommy johns surgery, outside of elbow insision they relieve the tendons and drill holes in the bone. Next is a 2in incision over the funny bone, where they work on the nerve. The surgeon said he never saw the nerve so tight, my hand- fingers was going crazy during surgery. Over 1 year later from my wrist to half my fingers are still numb, yeah not good. The outside of your hand is what grips the bars. The aztalan track in Lake Mills has a very competive 40 and 45 classes, when servere weather isn,t threatening. They have a full gate for 40+, riders that finish top 5 at LL don,t win here. If your racing for a top finish, you,ll fight for it. For what ever reason, riders short out at this track, in the 55 + class a rider was run over twice in the 1st corner, there,s paremedics working on him. Then a 450 rider that was stuck in the gate , about 2 minutes later runs him over going wideopen. Nobody could believe it, the medics jumped out of the way. It was the dumbest thing you,d ever seen, the rider,s been in the hospital since 9-9-2012.
had both of my elbows done triceps re attached , left one was the worst 9 years on and still numb and tingles in my 2 smallest fingers, but at least they work now i lost the use of them totally for a year after surgery they curled up always had to straighten them out and used to sit on them to keep them straight , at least on the bike they would wrap around the bar then selves :-}}
had my right done about 20 months ago then it snapped off again so had it re done again 8/9 weeks latter seams ok now
it looks like a fun job fixing them
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At least on the bike they'd wrap themselves around the grip?Lol,that's hardcore shanes,good on you.
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At least on the bike they'd wrap themselves around the grip?Lol,that's hardcore shanes,good on you.
Yeah theres always a silver lining
Yeah there,s injurys that effect your riding for sure. My last spell under the knife was left elbow tommy johns surgery, outside of elbow insision they relieve the tendons and drill holes in the bone. Next is a 2in incision over the funny bone, where they work on the nerve. The surgeon said he never saw the nerve so tight, my hand- fingers was going crazy during surgery. Over 1 year later from my wrist to half my fingers are still numb, yeah not good. The outside of your hand is what grips the bars. The aztalan track in Lake Mills has a very competive 40 and 45 classes, when servere weather isn,t threatening. They have a full gate for 40+, riders that finish top 5 at LL don,t win here. If your racing for a top finish, you,ll fight for it. For what ever reason, riders short out at this track, in the 55 + class a rider was run over twice in the 1st corner, there,s paremedics working on him. Then a 450 rider that was stuck in the gate , about 2 minutes later runs him over going wideopen. Nobody could believe it, the medics jumped out of the way. It was the dumbest thing you,d ever seen, the rider,s been in the hospital since 9-9-2012.
had both of my elbows done triceps re attached , left one was the worst 9 years on and still numb and tingles in my 2 smallest fingers, but at least they work now i lost the use of them totally for a year after surgery they curled up always had to straighten them out and used to sit on them to keep them straight , at least on the bike they would wrap around the bar then selves :-}}
had my right done about 20 months ago then it snapped off again so had it re done again 8/9 weeks latter seams ok now
it looks like a fun job fixing them
You have endured a ridiculous amount of pain. How are you still in one piece?
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shanes, they ruined your ink.
I'd show you all my trophy's, but I can't remember where I put them?
you know where trophys belong? thats right, on the dashboard!
....or on a big fat gold chain around your neck !!
funny shit right there.
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Dam Shanes that,s gross, I don,t know what it is, but I can,t look at pics like that. But in real life it doesn,t bother me. I,ve been on the scene of bad wrecks b4 the paremedics, I remember this one guy the front of his head was like it was blown off, his face the bones and all where gone. He was in a small car, the drivers seat was jammed into the rear seat. The lady he hit head on was in a G20 chevy van, she had a broken femur, and a bad heart. She,s sceaming and panicked along with her 2 teenage kids following her. I found her heart pills,ran to the truck 4 water. Bottom line driving is very dangerous, even in a rv or semi, 759 truck drivers where killed driving last year. That,s hundreds more than anyother job, it,s getting crazy out there, be safe all.
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Dam Shanes that,s gross, I don,t know what it is, but I can,t look at pics like that. But in real life it doesn,t bother me. I,ve been on the scene of bad wrecks b4 the paremedics, I remember this one guy the front of his head was like it was blown off, his face the bones and all where gone. He was in a small car, the drivers seat was jammed into the rear seat. The lady he hit head on was in a G20 chevy van, she had a broken femur, and a bad heart. She,s sceaming and panicked along with her 2 teenage kids following her. I found her heart pills,ran to the truck 4 water. Bottom line driving is very dangerous, even in a rv or semi, 759 truck drivers where killed driving last year. That,s hundreds more than anyother job, it,s getting crazy out there, be safe all.
You're not wrong mate. Here in Aus there is a place between Brisbane (Capital of Queensland) and my town called cunninghams gap. Theres a single corner on that range that has claimed 8 truckies. Just one corner. Australia has one of the highest road fatality rates in the world. You should see the roads we drive regularly, there are actually potholes in some of the most used highways. Oh and peoples driving skill here? You might as well as the cat.
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You have endured a ridiculous amount of pain. How are you still in one piece?
i am pretty much screwed together , in the last 30 years of racing i have had a few injuries but during those years race MX , SX , 250 GP , Superbikes and supermoto
quick list 47 breaks and fractures , 26 concussions , 3-4 total amnesia - lost more and a few days here and there and cant really remember being a kid any more . 3 x ACL - 1 left 2x right , 5 other knees surges cleaning bits up . was in icu in a coma for 3 days after i died on the table during the 4th surgery in 9-10 hours as they where trying to put me back together .
you can see why i retired from racing at the end of the season in 2009 as i had turned 40 that year , i still run a good pace on any type of bike but really the old body cant afford to get broken to much any more . so i can ride mx and superbikes on track days run around at 90 % without have to push it 100%+ as you do when racing . i am really enjoying riding gain more than i have in years a lot of stress and pressure in racing to perform , my biggest problem is i hate to loose and will normally crash trying to win rather than take a podium :-}}
props to you guys still racing at 40 + its great to see , but ill ride with you at the practice days :-}}
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bet you wish you were this guy.
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You have endured a ridiculous amount of pain. How are you still in one piece?
i am pretty much screwed together , in the last 30 years of racing i have had a few injuries but during those years race MX , SX , 250 GP , Superbikes and supermoto
quick list 47 breaks and fractures , 26 concussions , 3-4 total amnesia - lost more and a few days here and there and cant really remember being a kid any more . 3 x ACL - 1 left 2x right , 5 other knees surges cleaning bits up . was in icu in a coma for 3 days after i died on the table during the 4th surgery in 9-10 hours as they where trying to put me back together .
you can see why i retired from racing at the end of the season in 2009 as i had turned 40 that year , i still run a good pace on any type of bike but really the old body cant afford to get broken to much any more . so i can ride mx and superbikes on track days run around at 90 % without have to push it 100%+ as you do when racing . i am really enjoying riding gain more than i have in years a lot of stress and pressure in racing to perform , my biggest problem is i hate to loose and will normally crash trying to win rather than take a podium :-}}
props to you guys still racing at 40 + its great to see , but ill ride with you at the practice days :-}}
I think I'll start calling you darth vader...
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Shanes, you're a beast!
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bet you wish you were this guy.
Now that's funny... I think we're showing some age here at I remember watching that show as a kid...
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Wow 26 concusions , you must have been going for it. I had about 5 , only 1 from racing. That kinda sucked having double vision for weeks, had to close 1 eye to function at my construction job surveying, and equiptment operating. Hey STU I saw that Australian supertrucker reality show, or clips of it on youtube. They have like 8 million hits, road trains driving threw rivers doing 80 mph, crazyest stuff I,ve ever seen. Your mind doesn,t have trucks crossing rivers in it, just like a 1,000 foot ship traveling across land.