Two Stroke Motocross
Two Stroke Motocross Forum => General Two Stroke Talk => Topic started by: RM250 Evan on May 17, 2011, 04:46:19 PM
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http://www.motocrossactionmag.com/Main/News/FIRST-LOOK-2012-KTM-TWOSTROKES-THE-125-IS-BACK-AND-7841.aspx (http://www.motocrossactionmag.com/Main/News/FIRST-LOOK-2012-KTM-TWOSTROKES-THE-125-IS-BACK-AND-7841.aspx)
Surpise nobody posted this yet!
A KTM is in my future!
More..
150:
http://www.ktm.com/us/mx/150-sx.html (http://www.ktm.com/us/mx/150-sx.html)
250:
http://www.ktm.com/us/mx/250-sx.html (http://www.ktm.com/us/mx/250-sx.html)
Awesome!
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Very cool! :P
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Its only .9 kgs heavier from 2011...not bad!
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I posted that link on Honda's Facebook page.
I think Honda need's to read this.
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My eyes just fainted. Dude that (150SX) is one of the most BA bikes ever created. I need one.
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Drool, drool, slobber, slobber!!! Those things look so damn good!!
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I knew I shouldn't have clicked those links.... :o
Those bikes are beautiful. Major props to KTM for their two-stroke program.
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Anybody know how KTM sales figures compare to the Japanese big 4?
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when I mentioned to my local dealer "hey I heard ktm took suzuki's spot in the big 4" He said huh they beat everyone in sales last year except honda. So apparently ktm was second in motorcycle sales in 2010 only to honda
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MXA said the KTM two stroke sales were higher than some of the Japanese manufacturers overall motocross sales.
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i think it's very significant that they put the 2 strokes on equal footing (frame-wise) with their 4 strokes. who knows, it may signal a shift in their corporate strategy.
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i think they have just finally bowed to public pressure and put it on. for a bike that is designed for mx/sx it needed it anyway.
ktm are very good at giving the consumer what they want. for many years there has been the debate of linkage vs non linkage. now that reason is gone and there is no reason for anyone not to consider ktm
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Apparently 250xc models also have linkage!
(http://i54.tinypic.com/rhkhsm.jpg)
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I haven't spent a lot on time on them and I don't race MX, but I may be one of the few who actually like the PDS.
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i don't mind the linkage on the XC
yeah!!
:D
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This whole linkage thing could be a marketing ploy as well,I mean how do you get customers off their PDS KTMs and back in the showrooms to buy new bikes?The PDS system had many advantages:cheaper to manufacture,lighter and simpler frame,straight intake tract to the carb,no linkage hanging down to name a few.
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And by having every frame set up the same the KTM parts bin just got smaller saving them money? May be more complex but they only need to get one kind of setup made.
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I wasn't a great fan of the PDS system.
You have to wonder what discussions are going on in the Japanese bike manufacturer boardrooms given the success of the KTM 2Ts.
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And by having every frame set up the same the KTM parts bin just got smaller saving them money? May be more complex but they only need to get one kind of setup made.
Nope all offroad KTM's 2t or 4t will be no linkage.
Only SX will get the linkage and that is the way it should always be.
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did you look at the pic I posted on page 1? :P
(http://i54.tinypic.com/rhkhsm.jpg)
You can clearly see 250 XC by the seat.
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I haven't spent a lot on time on them and I don't race MX, but I may be one of the few who actually like the PDS.
Me to Coop,the pds works great for me but I guess KTM is giving most of it's customers what they want.
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I haven't spent a lot on time on them and I don't race MX, but I may be one of the few who actually like the PDS.
Me to Coop,the pds works great for me but I guess KTM is giving most of it's customers what they want.
depends on what you're asking of it i suppose. The test would be to have a ride on a new model and see if you like the action better.
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And by having every frame set up the same the KTM parts bin just got smaller saving them money? May be more complex but they only need to get one kind of setup made.
Nope all offroad KTM's 2t or 4t will be no linkage.
Only SX will get the linkage and that is the way it should always be.
The only without linkage 2012 KTMs will be the XCW and EXC models. The XC's will have linkage.
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PDS seemed to work everywhere else but the US.
One of the highlights of owning a KTM was not greasing
and replacing linkage bearings
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You have to wonder what discussions are going on in the Japanese bike manufacturer boardrooms given the success of the KTM 2Ts.
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I would think it would be a no brainer to put a larger tank, flywheel wt, wide ratio tranny, 18 inch rear wheel, softer springs on one of their existing 2t bikes (yz,rm,kx) with no other changes and try and market it to the off road crowd. easy money.
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I may be in the market for a KTM soon..
What are the advantages / disadvantages to running a linkage vs... not?
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I may be in the market for a KTM soon..
What are the advantages / disadvantages to running a linkage vs... not?
riding supercross is the only place i've heard it makes a diff. Thats straight from the mouth of the guy from pro-action suspension