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Two Stroke Motocross Forum => General Two Stroke Talk => Topic started by: Hondacrrider on January 09, 2010, 11:07:54 PM

Title: Supercross Anaheim 1, Unexpected Battle!
Post by: Hondacrrider on January 09, 2010, 11:07:54 PM
I was so excited when Dungey was leading nearly the whole race! I was clapping, and yelling, and, it was amazing, he was not even under my radar until now, Ryan Villopoto was a bit, but, he kind of disappointed me. I am sorry, but, I am just getting tired of these seasons where James runs away with the races. It gets boring. The Lites race I almost fell asleep in, and my friend actually fell asleep, I woke him up, and he said, this is boring me, I am going up stairs, and He missed the greatest race that I have seen in a while. It was quite exciting.
Title: Re: Supercross Anaheim 1, Unexpected Battle!
Post by: Recovered on January 10, 2010, 06:00:41 AM
It was great to see RD up front, and then battle back after he was passed.

As for RV...2009 was a bad thing. 2010 is looking the same. He needs some help in the brain bucket area. He needs to ride the 450 like he rode the 250.

I know, that goes against conventional wisdom. But CW is getting him nowhere...fast.
Title: Re: Supercross Anaheim 1, Unexpected Battle!
Post by: JohnN on January 10, 2010, 06:08:13 AM
Did you guys notice that James was struggling?? He was not riding with his usual aggression.... he pushed it to catch and pass Dungey, then settled back down and Ryan almost passed him.

Someone that interviewed James asked how he was doing and he said, no one is ever 100%.

As for Villipoto, there is so much hype surrounding this guy because of his 250F racing experience. But some folks are much better at racing small displacement machines... Johnny O'Mara comes easily to mind.

The track design, was very difficult for all the riders, there was almost no place for the top guys to make up time... the track was tight and the 450's were having difficulties clearing obstacles with ease. Plus it had no real rhythm...

Honestly I think it made for better racing...
Title: Re: Supercross Anaheim 1, Unexpected Battle!
Post by: Hondacrrider on January 10, 2010, 12:03:23 PM
Did you guys notice that James was struggling?? He was not riding with his usual aggression.... he pushed it to catch and pass Dungey, then settled back down and Ryan almost passed him.

Someone that interviewed James asked how he was doing and he said, no one is ever 100%.

As for Villipoto, there is so much hype surrounding this guy because of his 250F racing experience. But some folks are much better at racing small displacement machines... Johnny O'Mara comes easily to mind.

The track design, was very difficult for all the riders, there was almost no place for the top guys to make up time... the track was tight and the 450's were having difficulties clearing obstacles with ease. Plus it had no real rhythm...

Honestly I think it made for better racing...
I do believe that between the track not being so cookie cutter, and James not running away with the race, that was the best i have seen in a while.
Title: Re: Supercross Anaheim 1, Unexpected Battle!
Post by: losec on January 10, 2010, 12:36:19 PM
Villopoto had a cold according to some of the mainstream mx-websites
Title: Re: Supercross Anaheim 1, Unexpected Battle!
Post by: Hondacrrider on January 10, 2010, 01:17:15 PM
Villopoto had a cold according to some of the mainstream mx-websites
He may have had one, but, he still disappointed me even last year.
Title: Re: Supercross Anaheim 1, Unexpected Battle!
Post by: Out of Order on January 10, 2010, 04:21:10 PM
I just watched Supercross on speed for the first time in years, and it sucks!!! >:( I liked it better with the two strokes, these guys are soooooooo lazy on these things that Kevin Windham can finish 3rd. Talk about the four stroke being a good vet bike.
Title: Re: Supercross Anaheim 1, Unexpected Battle!
Post by: JohnN on January 10, 2010, 05:24:55 PM
I just watched Supercross on speed for the first time in years, and it sucks!!! >:( I liked it better with the two strokes, these guys are soooooooo lazy on these things that Kevin Windham can finish 3rd. Talk about the four stroke being a good vet bike.

You've just explained why by the 6th or 7th round I totally lose interest in the Supercross series.... it's not the coverage that sucks, it's the absurd displacemnet rules that "killed" two-strokes.

Title: Re: Supercross Anaheim 1, Unexpected Battle!
Post by: westsiderippa on January 10, 2010, 09:26:05 PM
"I just watched Supercross on speed for the first time in years, and it sucks!!! Angry I liked it better with the two strokes, these guys are soooooooo lazy on these things that Kevin Windham can finish 3rd. Talk about the four stroke being a good vet bike."

WOW, thats a huge statement, but to each his own.
Title: Re: Supercross Anaheim 1, Unexpected Battle!
Post by: Recovered on January 11, 2010, 08:43:07 AM
I just watched Supercross on speed for the first time in years, and it sucks!!! >:( I liked it better with the two strokes, these guys are soooooooo lazy on these things that Kevin Windham can finish 3rd. Talk about the four stroke being a good vet bike.

I hate to break it to you, but Windham's success can't be attributed to 4T's. You can thank lazy, out of shape young riders (hello Milsaps, Tedesco, Short, and the rest who finished behind KW) who could care less where they finish. The 8th place paycheck is good enough for them.

If RV has a cold that makes him THAT slow (he was passed by KW and Short!!!) he should have done everyone a favor and stayed home. There is no rule that says he MUST ride a 450. He can ride a 250F or 250 2T. He would be faster on either. But we will never know because that is what all of Japan wants him to ride (read 4T here).
Title: Re: Supercross Anaheim 1, Unexpected Battle!
Post by: 2smoker on January 11, 2010, 01:51:44 PM
Villopoto had a cold according to some of the mainstream mx-websites
He may have had one, but, he still disappointed me even last year.

Villopoto is fat and out of shape...and the kid was way faster on his 85cc!!!!!
Title: Re: Supercross Anaheim 1, Unexpected Battle!
Post by: Recovered on January 11, 2010, 02:05:19 PM
Villopoto had a cold according to some of the mainstream mx-websites
He may have had one, but, he still disappointed me even last year.

Villopoto is fat and out of shape...and the kid was way faster on his 85cc!!!!!

He was pretty fast on the 250F (and dominate too).
Title: Re: Supercross Anaheim 1, Unexpected Battle!
Post by: luthier269 on January 11, 2010, 06:19:18 PM
Did anyone notice that the commercial for the rest of the series used the sound of Two Stroke motorcycles?
Title: Re: Supercross Anaheim 1, Unexpected Battle!
Post by: Hondacrrider on January 11, 2010, 06:52:11 PM
Did anyone notice that the commercial for the rest of the series used the sound of Two Stroke motorcycles?
Ya, I noticed that as well, the bike companies aren't dumb, they know the true sound of motocross, this was also the case with the movie supercross, they had a four stroke bike, but, it was a two stroke sound.
Title: Re: Supercross Anaheim 1, Unexpected Battle!
Post by: JohnN on January 11, 2010, 07:21:40 PM
I know it's off-topic, but we got a Wii system for Christmas (Thank you Santa!) which is the first video game I've owned since Pong! Picked up the MX vs. ATV game only because it has two-stroke sounds for the bikes!!

By the way I suck at it!!! :P :P
Title: Re: Supercross Anaheim 1, Unexpected Battle!
Post by: 2smoker on January 11, 2010, 07:29:50 PM
Did anyone notice that the commercial for the rest of the series used the sound of Two Stroke motorcycles?
Ya, I noticed that as well, the bike companies aren't dumb, they know the true sound of motocross, this was also the case with the movie supercross, they had a four stroke bike, but, it was a two stroke sound.

WHat about Transformers 2 with a two stroke cbr 600rr! LOL
Title: Re: Supercross Anaheim 1, Unexpected Battle!
Post by: Suzuki TS250/185 on January 11, 2010, 07:54:35 PM
Yes,

I did notice that... I thought it was cool, but kind of strange at the same time...

They aren't stupid... Advertisers that is... They understand that a gate full of 2 Strokes just sounds really exciting! It taps into the "fight or flight" reflex the way the sound of an angry swarm of bees does! Whether or not you love it the way we do, it will grab your attention, and that's what they want. Who knows? Maybe they used a focus group study.

Excitement has been sorely absent from the sound of motocross as of late I think. Maybe (I'm/we're) not the the only one who feels that way!

I guess "Flatulent Herd" sound doesn't wash with extreme sports fans the way "Angry Bee" sound does...

No surprise there, but it's tough to keep your tastes calibrated when you have a gang of multi national corporate conglomerations painting all the murals on all the walls of an entire sport.

See, I knew "I/We" wasn't crazy.

Thanks,

Jim  
Title: Re: Supercross Anaheim 1, Unexpected Battle!
Post by: admiral on January 12, 2010, 05:29:34 PM
Villopoto had a cold according to some of the mainstream mx-websites
He may have had one, but, he still disappointed me even last year.
he won two SX races last year (on 450's) and the blew everyone away at Glen Helen before he destroyed his knee. i think he will come around.
Title: Re: Supercross Anaheim 1, Unexpected Battle!
Post by: JohnN on January 12, 2010, 05:45:14 PM
Welcome admiral!!

(http://georgecoghill.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/military-major-cartoon.gif)

Glad to have you on board!

Agreed, Villipoto rode really well last year. One bad race does not a racer make. If at the end of the year he does not live up to expectations, then we can talk.. about disappointment. For now let's enjoy the racing.

Title: Re: Supercross Anaheim 1, Unexpected Battle!
Post by: Recovered on January 13, 2010, 07:25:44 AM
He also dominated SX before he was hurt. He hasn't looked good since going to the 450.

He looked good in MX because Alessi is a bigger disappointment. IMHO, RV still doesn't have the speed of JBS or RC (if he was racing today). And that's they hype he gets.
Title: Re: Supercross Anaheim 1, Unexpected Battle!
Post by: ford832 on January 14, 2010, 04:07:52 PM
I know it's off-topic, but we got a Wii system for Christmas (Thank you Santa!) which is the first video game I've owned since Pong! Picked up the MX vs. ATV game only because it has two-stroke sounds for the bikes!!

By the way I suck at it!!! :P :P

No big deal John,you likely just have yourself set up on a CR.Change to a Yam or TM and you'll be winning in no time ;D
Title: Re: Supercross Anaheim 1, Unexpected Battle!
Post by: JohnN on January 14, 2010, 07:06:58 PM
Hey Ford..... just how do you change the bike???  ??? ???
Title: Re: Supercross Anaheim 1, Unexpected Battle!
Post by: ford832 on January 15, 2010, 03:35:42 AM
Actually,I haven't the faintest idea as I've never played it You'd have to ask someone about half my age :D
Title: Re: Supercross Anaheim 1, Unexpected Battle!
Post by: JohnN on January 15, 2010, 04:40:56 AM
Actually,I haven't the faintest idea as I've never played it You'd have to ask someone about half my age :D

How true!!

It's actually pretty funny to attempt this when you are a video game beginner... I've accidentally jumped into the stands, crash landed on everything surrounding the track, ridden the wrong way on the track (none of this on purpose) I end up rolling on the floor laughing my ass off!!

I'll probably never be very good at it, because I will never play it everyday, but when I play it I have a great time.
Title: Re: Supercross Anaheim 1, Unexpected Battle!
Post by: Hondacrrider on January 15, 2010, 03:46:47 PM
Hey Ford..... just how do you change the bike???  ??? ???
Well, there is no brand name dirt bikes in this game, although, you can switch the colours, and switch between 2 stroke and four, and if you put in the cheat"YOUGOTIT" you unlock everything, which allows you to race the lites bike, and in this game it is a 125 and it just sounds so sweet
Title: Re: Supercross Anaheim 1, Unexpected Battle!
Post by: JohnN on January 15, 2010, 05:01:25 PM
Hey Hondacrrider, how do you "put" in the cheat?? I love the sound of 125cc two-strokes!!
Title: Re: Supercross Anaheim 1, Unexpected Battle!
Post by: Hondacrrider on January 15, 2010, 05:07:24 PM
Hey Hondacrrider, how do you "put" in the cheat?? I love the sound of 125cc two-strokes!!
Ok, you go to options under the main menu, you look for cheats, or cheat codes, I forget what it is called, and then, when it allows you to type in the cheat, type it in with NO spaces