Two Stroke Motocross
Two Stroke Motocross Forum => General Two Stroke Talk => Topic started by: miedosoracing on August 11, 2011, 12:06:22 AM
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Do you only like 2 strokes, or do you like both 2 and 4 strokes? No reasoning please, just answer. Thanks
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Both. Owned both. Now just own 4t
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You cant expect no reasoning... Someone has to say it. I'm not the only one who thinks this:
I like motocross. I like both bikes, but I prefer the two stroke, it is simply a better race machine. But a four stroke is still a good machine in its own.
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I like both.
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My beef is with the rules and not the machines and having said that I can say that I like both 2 and 4 strokes.What I'd also like to say is that, having worked on modern 4T$, they are ticking time bombs.I know guys will say the modern 450Fs are reliable but when you have a piston skirt so short there is only room for one compression ring - I don't buy it.
I'd also like to say that I like the feel and power of a 2T - lighter and more responsive. ;D
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Only two strokes for me. Got 5 of them. Never bought a 4, but have ridden a few and raced against many. My 02 YZ250 out accelerates a 2006 KTM 450 xc head to head on a gravel road. Until we hit about 60 mph that is. I just don't like the power delivery of a 4 stroke and the engine breaking. or is it braking? Will only have a 4 stroke in my car, lawnmower, and pressure washer...
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Four strokes are to expensive and are boring to ride so i prefer my 250 two stroke over any 250f or 450.
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Like two strokes. Ive had 3 of them. Never had a four $troke.
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Only2 strokes for me, with the fun factor on 2 strokes i cant enjoy a 4 stroke
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As far as dirt bikes go, I've only owned and will only own a smoker... My son has a quad (yes he's a quad turd), it's a Honda 400ex with the tried and true XR400 4 stroke engine. If I could find a Honda 250R (2 stroke) quad to trade, we'd be all over it... He's still a fan of 2 strokes, but the 400ex is hard to beat, (Especially since we rebuilt it this past winter).
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I own both, ride both, and enjoy both.
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In my opinion, a motorcycle must be 2 Stroke! :) :D
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Dirt two wheelers - Two Strokes. Nothing but.
Street two and four wheelers - four strokes (unless I can find a nice RZ350)
-Steve
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As much as I love two strokes and never plan on buying a thumper, I have to say "it depends" and "each have their place"... so BOTH for me.
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2 stroke is the way to go. 4 strokes should have stayed at the pit bike races. :P
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I also have a beef with the displacement rule, life was much easier when we had 125-250-open any stroke! I've owned both and liked both for different reasons but have only Mx raced Two strokes and enduro raced Four strokes.
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My first bike was an XR 75. Since then I've owned 14 other dirt bikes, all two strokes. I don't like to ride a four stroke, can't wait to get off it and hand it back to its owner. When I look for a new bike I never consider a four stroke.
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Hi Steve MOTO814, it,s Tony I used the same name Supertrucker, for when I ran into the pingertalk folks. How is everything going,are you tuning motors again ? For me it,s only 125,s I could never ride a 4-st, hell I get borred riding 125,s.
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Both. When it comes to offroad bikes.
4 Strokes for putting around the farm or beach ( with a carrier for the beer ;D ) DR200/XR200 types.
2 Strokes for having FUN on. FASTER/CHEAPER/LIGHTER.
Who was the idiot that decided it was a good idea to release on the public a high performance 4 stroke that only the skilled could work on. Not being rude to anyone, but alot of riders do not have a clue about maintanence. The modern 4 stroke is a disaster on the buying public.
Road bikes both as well. (I miss my RZ350R) :(
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2 strokes thanks.
4 strokes suck :D
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I enjoy riding 4 strokes on tracks, i kind of like that heavy feeling on some tracks. I would never own one though, i love my ole smoker to much.
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Interesting thread. I used to think I was very good at adapting between the two. I used to like the thumper grunt and its indestructible nature but performance was always an issue. To get the thumper to perform, you had to have White Bros., Al Baker, Parroll or some other hop up had to be used (along with 2T suspension upgrades). Then you took away what made the thumper special. It was no longer bullet proof and it cost a fortune. The advanced technology wasn't given to the thumper community until the current hand grenades arrived (OK you could buy a boutique bike; Husky, CCM etc.). Now we have gone the other way; the 2T's are reliable and cheap to maintain and the 4$ are getting all the new kit!
My problem has always been in the rules. The rules determine what we (the public) buy and desire. The rules are unfair and although I've said that "motocross has used the 125/250/500 class designations for 70 years, why change now?", I'm starting to think it should be OPEN. Run what you brung and may the best man (woman/child) win. Simplify the rules to cover safety, emissions, and noise and let the cost be born by the racers and teams. They are going to spend $40k anyway, we might as well get some good technology trickled down to us poor mortals.
I own both. I personally prefer 2T because they are more efficient; power to weight and capacity.
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With my limited speed (mid-pack Vet C rider), I am faster around a track on a 4 stroke, but I will never own one. If it blew up on me, it would probably take a year to save up the money to fix it. I will stick with the 2-stroke, I like riding too much!!
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2 stroke
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The only 4s I've owned are an XR200 and XR250 (besides old ones XLs). They were fun to play around on, but I have had a whole slew of 2-strokes, and I'm still looking for a good 125, or 150. Heck maybe even a 250.
I prefer 2-srokes.
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I guess I have to say both. I despise modern MX 4 strokes, but I do like some enduro models and the older xr's and such. 2 strokes primarily though :)
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I am like many others, I prefer 2t's for MX fun. Right now I have a KX500,a Montesa 250 trials, and two KX125's which are my daughters race bikes. I also have an electric start TTR90 that we use as a pit bike/ utility vehicle. I do however like the smooth, almost electric style power delivery of some of the earlier 4t's( yz400-426). That is why I went back with a KX500. You can gear it up and make the delivery very smoothe. I was always able to go faster, longer on bikes that didn't really have a "hit" to them. I rode a 2010 YZ450f and hated the power delivery! Massive hit right off idle then nothing but vibration. Very hard to ride.
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I like both types. But I'm talking about the old style enduro/play bike 4st, not the new grenade bikes. The old XRs, TTs, and DRs would last a lifetime with only the most minor maintaenance, engine wise.
I love my CR500, but i also like to ride my old DR370 (White Bros AL. swing arm/ Works Perf. shocks/ Terry fork kit/ Super Trapp). It can't be directly compared to the CR500, since they have different missions. It's a "mellow" bike that can putt along at walking speed, pull wheelies without having to do light speed, and yet still tops out over 70 mph. The CR is a rocket, with great acceleration, speed and suspension, but you constantly have to be "on top" of it, or else you get hurt.
We don't all ride MX tracks exclusively, but anyone who says doing 70mph in the dirt on an old school machine isn't "exciting" is full of carp.
Regards,
M.R.
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I have both 2 and 4 stroke bikes. KTM 85, 105, 150, 250. All of them are the SX models. I have two 4-strokes. One is an XR 50 that I bought for my son when he was three and the other is a 1990 DR 250s. I ride the Suzuki about 99% on the street. I got it to replace my GSXR 600 that I hated! Street bikes are like 10 speeds. They are BORING!!
Every time I rode that GSXR I would see some dirt and think, "God, if I only had a real bike I could tear that up!"
4-strokes make good dual purpose bikes but I would never race one!
I also think that the current rules that allow 4-strokes to have a displacement advantage are stupid. If they are better let them prove it in heads up competition. I would like to see the return of three classes of equal talent at the nationals. 125, 250 and open. Leave the farm league at the baseball diamond.
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Like many others, I jumped on the four stroke band wagon to race the "next big thing".
In other words, I swallowed the kool aid that was being served up by the manufacturers
and the media. After several years of high cost and low fun, I sold my four strokes and
switched back to two strokes. Best move I ever made, riding/racing is fun again.
Because my manufacturer of choice doesn't produce two strokes anymore and I don't want
to be at a disadvantage with old technology, I build my own using state of the art rollers
and tried and proven engines from the past - a sweet combination.
dogger
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Dogger, im telling your favorite brand and theyll get so mad! SOOO MADD! that they hire assassins to bring you ice cream. Then youll have brain freeze. MOUAHAHAHAHAH!
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i prefer the twostroke as well
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2 strokes are my machines of choice but I have no problem with the the 4s. If my brain can keep talking my body into riding a 2 stroke I will but father time is a sneaky SOB.
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both :D
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I like anything with 2 wheels and a motor. i'd only ever own a 2stroke though
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For MX or any other type of off roading it will HAVE to be a 2 stroker. (I feel the same way about street bikes as well) I'm unwavering in my decision.
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Like I stated in the beginning. I have a reason. Some here should keep an eye on their message box. ;)
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Ooo...I want a secret message to! Can I get one?
Im thinking this thread didnt go quite like you had expected. lol
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Ooo...I want a secret message to! Can I get one?
Im thinking this thread didnt go quite like you had expected. lol
Went exactly like I wanted. Thanks.
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Both. When it comes to offroad bikes.
4 Strokes for putting around the farm or beach ( with a carrier for the beer ;D ) DR200/XR200 types.
2 Strokes for having FUN on. FASTER/CHEAPER/LIGHTER.
I feel the same. I have my KDX for when I want to go fast off-road. I also have a 1982 XL250R dual sport for foo-foo play riding, running errands, etc.
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I like anything with two wheels and a motor also... even electric ::)
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Both.If racing and lap times were my concern,I'd have a 250f.I loved my XR and Berg and in many place,they were better than my 2 strokes-in many places they weren't.I have more fun on two strokes though and that's what it's all about for me these days.
Interestingly,I always loved the boom of an off road fourstroke-when they were somewhat of an oddity.Now that they're everywhere,not as much.
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Both. Lets just say I love dirt bikes, but right now I prefer 2-strokes lot better.