Post by: gday359 on February 15, 2012, 11:08:40 AM
Thought I'd post some pics of my bike. It is 2007 CR250, the last year Honda made the 2 stroke. I bought the bike about 6 months ago off ebay. It was a bit rough around the edges, but it hadn't seen much use. It still had original tyres, but I don't think that it had ever been washed a day in it's life. It was 100% original when I got it...
No need for much more details, the pictures tell the story.
A new CRF250 here in Australia retails for about $10500. I bought this bike for $3850 off ebay, but it probably owes me about what a new CRF would have cost. But for that I've got a CR 2 stroke with Showa PC Factory A-kit suspension and every aftermarket part imaginable. I think this was a better way to go.
Post by: scotty dog on February 15, 2012, 01:50:24 PM
that is f**ken beautiful! Iam in love!! That beast is 20 times better than a 250f where in oz are ya?
Post by: burn1986 on February 15, 2012, 01:52:25 PM
Post by: SachsGS on February 15, 2012, 05:10:34 PM
Post by: EJ on February 15, 2012, 05:35:54 PM
She's really good looking!!!
Post by: Super Trucker on February 15, 2012, 06:41:59 PM
Post by: gday359 on February 15, 2012, 07:17:55 PM
But, as I said, the bike does owe me a lot more than the original purchase price of 3850...
The front brake rotor is from CRFSTUFF.COM. They do some awesome parts for Hondas! The rear rotor is a genuine Honda rotor off an 09 CRF450.
Post by: ACMX on February 16, 2012, 02:08:11 AM
Post by: motoman356 on February 16, 2012, 02:46:15 AM
DAAAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNG!
Post by: cnrcpla on February 16, 2012, 03:01:14 AM
Post by: TMKIWI on February 16, 2012, 07:14:35 AM
Post by: Super Trucker on February 16, 2012, 07:43:37 PM
Thanks for the compliments.... I am in Sydney.Ok thanks,that,s cool that the rear rotor fits your 250. I have the RG3 tripple clamp on my 2 cr125,s 04 and 06, the clamp also fits the cr250,cr250f,etc
But, as I said, the bike does owe me a lot more than the original purchase price of 3850...
The front brake rotor is from CRFSTUFF.COM. They do some awesome parts for Hondas! The rear rotor is a genuine Honda rotor off an 09 CRF450.
Post by: SwapperMX on February 17, 2012, 02:38:10 AM
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Post by: motoxr377 on December 28, 2012, 01:44:59 AM
Post by: Stusmoke on December 28, 2012, 03:50:23 AM
So jelly.
Post by: motoxr377 on December 28, 2012, 03:17:37 PM
Post by: jimaras Greece on December 28, 2012, 03:44:58 PM
Post by: fabbo on December 28, 2012, 09:51:00 PM
If only he had a 00-01 engine and pwk airstriker! It would be perfect!
Post by: Stusmoke on December 28, 2012, 11:04:50 PM
I have an 05. What is the difference between an 01 engine to an 07 engine. I find my bike a real handful compared to my yz 250 01 smoker. But my Cr is a fully worked 310 cc smoker so I am curious as to what the difference is.If only he had a 00-01 engine and pwk airstriker! It would be perfect!
In 2002 and up til 2007, Honda reworked their two stroke motocrossers and came out with a case reed engine. It simply wasn't as good as 2001 and prior powerband wise. I can't speak for peak power though. But the powerband wasn't as good and because they were going for the fourstroke movement, it never really got reworked.
Post by: GlennC on December 29, 2012, 05:37:20 AM
Post by: oppenheimer77us on December 29, 2012, 05:57:22 AM
Post by: TotalNZ on December 29, 2012, 10:07:59 AM
I can jump on my mates 07 stocker and in first couple of laps i'm going almost as fast as i can on my bike.
Post by: oppenheimer77us on December 30, 2012, 06:32:58 PM
Post by: TotalNZ on January 01, 2013, 10:18:22 PM
BTW, the A kit suspension was an awesome bonus, I've known people to spend more than that on used A kits. I picked up my bike for a song, much cheaper than my son's CRF250 and its twice the bike.Three times the CRF
Post by: 800screws on January 02, 2013, 01:38:06 AM
Post by: Stusmoke on January 02, 2013, 02:56:09 AM
there is a question in the newest mxa about the 01 vs 07 cr engine...which one would they use if money wasnt issue and they went with the 07....it was in the ask the expert section...they didnt elaborate too much, but i guess a good builder can make the 07 better than the 01....
Without a doubt it has more potential, but the 01 was better off the shoowroom floor.
Post by: motoxr377 on January 02, 2013, 03:39:40 AM
Post by: Critta on January 03, 2013, 04:24:49 AM
Post by: oppenheimer77us on January 03, 2013, 06:12:35 PM
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MXA seems contradictory then
Which is pretty much MXA's norm. If I had a big pile of cash and was going to build the ultimate CR250R I would go with the 00/01 engine with a keihin carb for a couple of reasons. The powervalve design is simpler and non-electronic (one more thing to go wrong). The cylinder reed design was working quite well and was at the peak of its long development curve. All in all the engine has fewer parts to break or fail and there are a lot of proven performance mods and it makes very nice power by even todays standards.
I am using a bolt on modified 06 motor and like it a lot but if the electronics on this bike ever take a dump I will be looking at picking up an 00/01 motor
Post by: TotalNZ on January 03, 2013, 09:06:27 PM
How do you know this? Have you owned both or tuned either?there is a question in the newest mxa about the 01 vs 07 cr engine...which one would they use if money wasnt issue and they went with the 07....it was in the ask the expert section...they didnt elaborate too much, but i guess a good builder can make the 07 better than the 01....
Without a doubt it has more potential, but the 01 was better off the shoowroom floor.
Post by: Stusmoke on January 04, 2013, 01:10:05 AM
How do you know this?there is a question in the newest mxa about the 01 vs 07 cr engine...which one would they use if money wasnt issue and they went with the 07....it was in the ask the expert section...they didnt elaborate too much, but i guess a good builder can make the 07 better than the 01....
Without a doubt it has more potential, but the 01 was better off the shoowroom floor.
Without a doubt was poor wording. I've heard almost everyone say that the 01 was better off the showroom floor so I'm just reiterating.
Post by: jimaras Greece on January 04, 2013, 08:09:40 AM
Post by: oppenheimer77us on January 04, 2013, 06:46:41 PM
2000- Considered the best CR engine by some, broad usable power in a very stiff and unforgiving frame, I rode several of the 2000/2001 and liked the '96 steel framed CR's better.
2001- Same engine but Honda makes the first in a series of blunders with the CR and swaps the Keihin carb for a Mikuni. Honda will stick with the Mikuni, both without and with a TPS for the rest of the CR production run. The Mikuni carb is the weak link in my 06 for sure, Honda must of had a warehouse full of these.
2002-04- First year of the case reed design and all new electronic powervalve and much better alloy frame. The bike has good HP numbers but never gets that nice low end bark back. Minor engine changes frm 2002-2004. All development money is going into 4 strokes after the CRF rolls out in 2002.
2005-2007 New cylinder and one piece powervavle design, much better sealing than old two piece design, Mikuni gets YPS and despite a bunch of changes the motor is at its peak of development and still doesn't have any low end.
The 2005-07 engine is the most technologically advanced 2 stroke engine Honda has ever put in a motocross bike. Is it the best? Who knows. It certainly has a lot of potential for improvement in any case as countless builders both in the cart and motocross world have proven.
MXA was asked about the 01 vs the 07 CR and the gist of their reply is that although they liked the 01 engine better (AKA Service Honda) they would race the latest version (07) beacuse of its superior frame, handling, ans suspension and the bike is a newer design. They also mentioned the Service Honda as being the best of all worlds with a 01 engine in an even newer late model CRF frame and suspension.
Post by: SachsGS on January 04, 2013, 07:55:29 PM
Nothing exemplifies this better then the early 90's (and the 00/01) Honda CR250's, very, very fast yet easy to ride. Now I'm being somewhat hypocritical as I haven't ridden the very latest KTM's for example, but, to date I'll stick with the piston ports.
Post by: MOMSMX47 on January 05, 2013, 04:52:48 PM
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Post by: Brap on January 06, 2013, 06:42:50 PM