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Two Stroke Motocross Forum => General Two Stroke Talk => Topic started by: jimmy777 on June 18, 2012, 02:29:00 PM

Title: 2013 Husqvarna's
Post by: jimmy777 on June 18, 2012, 02:29:00 PM
Anybody else disappointed by this?

http://motocrossactionmag.com/Main/News/FIRST-LOOK-2013-HUSQVARNA-RED-HEAD-MOTOCROSS-MODEL-9031.aspx
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Post by: burn1986 on June 18, 2012, 06:39:47 PM
BNG!
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Post by: twosmoke595 on June 18, 2012, 07:37:04 PM
well they haven't released their enduro stuff yet, hopefully its more than just bng also
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Post by: metal_miracle on June 18, 2012, 07:48:05 PM
you can check out the enduro models here


https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/pressclub/p/pcgl/pressDetail.html?outputChannelId=6&id=T0127612EN&left_menu_item=node__6762
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Post by: ford832 on June 19, 2012, 12:30:26 AM
Not in the least,I'm digging the 125 with the free 144 kit. 8)
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Post by: Stusmoke on June 19, 2012, 01:45:05 AM
Awwww thats really disappointing!!!! I was hoping for a design that really blew the jap foopers off their perch. Although if I was going to buy a fooper, thats the one I'd go with. The really lightweight engine is the main attraction for me. Nothing new on the CR125. Bugger
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Post by: Jeram on June 19, 2012, 03:14:43 AM
technically they said we'd see them in 2013, not be able to buy them.

this may explain the BNG for next year.

or possibly husky just wants to get on the rumour-ville bandwagon now that everyones completely over discussing the chances of  an EFI husaberg each year.. remember that? haha
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Post by: twosmoke595 on June 19, 2012, 03:40:21 AM
technically they said we'd see them in 2013, not be able to buy them.

this may explain the BNG for next year.

or possibly husky just wants to get on the rumour-ville bandwagon now that everyones completely over discussing the chances of  an EFI husaberg each year.. remember that? haha

ya, pretty much as 14' models, i didn't expect di husky's for 13, but i sure am hoping they do something along those lines
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Post by: Jeram on June 21, 2012, 08:50:17 AM
I guess maybe Husqvarna isn't ready for the big move Backward into heavier, more complicated bikes with lots of sensors, pumps and parts.... doing what very few parts and gravity already do flawlessly....


people said the same thing when snowmobiles and outboards went clean! hahaha

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Post by: TMKIWI on June 21, 2012, 09:46:48 AM
Just wondering Bearso,why do you refer to the nobility to the south of you as KUWEE and not KIWI? ::)

Because Aussies originated from criminals sent south by the British government and they don't spell no good. :P
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Post by: Suzuki TS250/185 on June 21, 2012, 09:56:29 AM
Just looking for the crux of the issue, that's all. And apparently it's just what I thought it was.

It's a greenie thing, not a performance thing. So apparently we as riders would gain nothing in terms of performance, but we'd end up with a bunch of red tape greenie crap all over our motorcycles instead of the current 100% reliable system... And we're supposed to be happy and enthusiastic about this???

Yeah,... no thanks...
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Post by: Jeram on June 21, 2012, 11:05:10 AM
Just looking for the crux of the issue, that's all. And apparently it's just what I thought it was.

It's a greenie thing, not a performance thing. So apparently we as riders would gain nothing in terms of performance, but we'd end up with a bunch of red tape greenie crap all over our motorcycles instead of the current 100% reliable system... And we're supposed to be happy and enthusiastic about this???

Yeah,... no thanks...

FI = larger throttle bodies... a larger throttle body = more hp

and incase you havnt worked it out, emmissions have played a huge part in the demise of the two stroke.

take away that downfall and then there is no reason why they cant share or dominate the market (just like ourboards, snowmobiles and PWC's)

very few people who use these above products wish they still had a carby.


dont assume they will be more trouble than they are worth, because that has yet to happen and history has proven (3 times before) that it wont happen
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Post by: Jeram on June 21, 2012, 11:21:56 AM
The only downside I can see is that I will have to buy a powercommander and take my bike to a dyno when I do engine mods which are beyond the normal modifications (which will have downloadable maps available for).

but even thats a small price to pay for perfect fueling, no matter what the weather, no matter what altitude!

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Post by: monsteryz125 on June 21, 2012, 09:48:53 PM
I guess maybe Husqvarna isn't ready for the big move Backward into heavier, more complicated bikes with lots of sensors, pumps and parts.... doing what very few parts and gravity already do flawlessly....
IMO husky isnt too concerned about having to take a step backwards with a bunch of sensors, the new 310 stroker has a low fuel light and neutral light, and according to a buddy of mine who test rode one last week "it had more f***ing relays under the seat than my streetbikes"
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Post by: beaner on June 22, 2012, 01:01:19 AM
It's true. It wasn't that long ago that cars started to get computers, fuel injection, and all that heavy complicated stuff, and we all know how that worked out. Sure, they're great on gas, reliable, clean, and make big power at the same time, but they are complicated and must have been a huge step backward.  ;D :P
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Post by: Suzuki TS250/185 on June 22, 2012, 01:38:36 AM
When the 4 strokes got fuel injection they got LESS power, not more...

When the 4 strokes got fuel injection, they began to just fail to start on the starting line quite frequently... These incidents were always referred to as "Electrical Problems" becasue no one wanted to announce that the problem as the Fuel Injection crapola... Even the farty 4 strokes weren't quite that stupid before fuel injection... but there's always a way to make something even more stupid and fuel injection was perfect for the job. Dungey's fuel injection sure worked great last year what a joke.

If you are looking for a green hippie machine, then a fuel injected bike is probably right for you. Maybe you can even get it to run on biodiesel if that's what makes you earth shoes stink.

The reason the manufacturers are not adopting it is because it does nothing to increase performance.
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Post by: bearorso on June 23, 2012, 02:49:04 AM
Kuwees is a take on their accent - they can't speak well with a beak.

As for the criminal element - keep that in mind TMKIWI - or you'll get yours!

As for Stusmoke = not sure  how to take that second paragraph - but if someone called me, or anyone a cretin, and regarded them as someone to go first in line on a patrol for an IED - well, in person, due to my families military background (and not suffering fools gladly) I'd beat the livin s**t out of them. A simple task.

With Kuwees, it's like your little brother - you pick on him, bash him up, fight with him, but he's your brother . Aussies and Kiwis are pretty much one and the same - hell , half of them come to live here in Australia.

There's a mindless, tiny percentage of either that lives by footy or that joke of a sport, cricket, or, as in recent days, goes all gaga over a bloody nag, but the vast majority just get on with it, and punch well above their weight, in all good things.

But Kuwees sure do talk weird!
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Post by: Stusmoke on June 23, 2012, 03:57:03 AM
Kuwees is a take on their accent - they can't speak well with a beak.

As for the criminal element - keep that in mind TMKIWI - or you'll get yours!

As for Stusmoke = not sure  how to take that second paragraph - but if someone called me, or anyone a cretin, and regarded them as someone to go first in line on a patrol for an IED - well, in person, due to my families military background (and not suffering fools gladly) I'd beat the livin s**t out of them. A simple task.

With Kuwees, it's like your little brother - you pick on him, bash him up, fight with him, but he's your brother . Aussies and Kiwis are pretty much one and the same - hell , half of them come to live here in Australia.

There's a mindless, tiny percentage of either that lives by footy or that joke of a sport, cricket, or, as in recent days, goes all gaga over a bloody nag, but the vast majority just get on with it, and punch well above their weight, in all good things.

But Kuwees sure do talk weird!

My familys got military background too, thats why I'm saying I'd rather the scum of the earth that don't contribute to society in the slightest take the hit than my family.

Anyway that point is irrelevant. Has anyone ridden one of these bikes with the insanely light engine?